Singh VS Singh and the fake oppo that is Workers Party

[Papsmearer]

I hate to say this, and anyone who knows me in this forum, knows that I hate the PAP. but I have come to conclusion recently, after looking at the voting records of the WP, that they are indeed, no better than the PAP "B" team. These guys have yet to vote, as far as I know, against any PAP bill in Parliament.

As we all know, the recent Facebook postings by Inderjit SIngh covered a wide range of topics and some of them dramatically opposed to the PAPs. I don't really know what to make of this guy. I believe its all fake and a trial balloon. He is after all still voting yea on all the other PAP policies although he abstained from the 6.9 million population white paper. If this guy is for real, he should run as an independent in the next election. I think he would be a shoo in to win, if he disavowed the PAP, not join any oppo parties, and just be an independent candidate.

On the other side, the Workers Party side, we have Pritam Singh. He is a member of an oppo party that has mysteriously stayed silent on all the recent salient issues, i.e. Little India riots, Phillipines National day celebration in Orchard, Anton Casey, train delays, and the recent CPF/Roy lawsuits. every other political oppo party has something in its websites commenting against the govt on these topics. In the last election, do you know what was the difference between the workers party and the national solidarity party of Goh Meng Seng? Less than 16,000 votes. that is a small number, and by some quirk of fate, the WP ended with 6 MPs, and the NSP none. It seems to me that we have voted in the wrong oppo party.

But I digress. Going back to Pritam, I call to mind the debate in parliament recently over the Protection from Harassment Act. we all know what this Act is. Its just more power for the PAP to whack critics. In particular, this clause:

Threatening, abusing or insulting public servant or public
service worker
10
6.
(1) No person shall by any means
a
) use any indecent, threatening, abusive or insulting words or
behaviour; or
b
) make any indecent, threatening, abusive or insulting
communication,
15
towards or to a public servant or public service worker (referred to for
the purposes of this section as the victim) in relation to the execution
of the victims duty as such public servant or public service worker.

However, would you believe that Pritam and the WP voted for this bill? In fact, he voted for it even though he claims to have misgivings.

Madam Speaker, my concerns about the potentially wide-ranging application of Section 7 notwithstanding, I support the Bill.

Its amazing that an oppo party would even vote for anything bill that the PAP puts up, much less such a controversial bill as the Harassment Act. Every single bill put up should be vehemently opposed by the WP. So, really, he and the WP are basically PAP stooges. If you ever wonder why Gay Loong is not afraid of the next elections is because he has already inflitrated the WP, and that no matter how many seats the PAP loses to the WP, he can count on them to vote with him each and every time. JBJ would turn in his grave if he saw the WP today.

So, really, who is the sincere SIngh here? HArd to tell, right? I think we really have to be careful of the oppo party we choose at the next elections. i will still vote oppo, but not the WP.

 

[tanwahp]

Let's be clear first. If you are talking about this bill, then you are talking about this bill and discuss the merits and demerits of this bill. If you are talking about all bills, then we look at all the previous voting patterns of all the bills and determine if WP MPs "have yet to vote against any PAP bill" is true.

 

[tanwahtiu]

50 years under PAP is a hard nut to crack open.

Whatever laws implemented can be abolish when Oppo come into power. Perhaps the time is not ripe yet, the numbers are not strong even to make noises or reject the bill.

I hate to say this, and anyone who knows me in this forum, knows that I hate the PAP. but I have come to conclusion recently, after looking at the voting records of the WP, that they are indeed, no better than the PAP "B" team. These guys have yet to vote, as far as I know, against any PAP bill in Parliament.

As we all know, the recent Facebook postings by Inderjit SIngh covered a wide range of topics and some of them dramatically opposed to the PAPs. I don't really know what to make of this guy. I believe its all fake and a trial balloon. He is after all still voting yea on all the other PAP policies although he abstained from the 6.9 million population white paper. If this guy is for real, he should run as an independent in the next election. I think he would be a shoo in to win, if he disavowed the PAP, not join any oppo parties, and just be an independent candidate.

On the other side, the Workers Party side, we have Pritam Singh. He is a member of an oppo party that has mysteriously stayed silent on all the recent salient issues, i.e. Little India riots, Phillipines National day celebration in Orchard, Anton Casey, train delays, and the recent CPF/Roy lawsuits. every other political oppo party has something in its websites commenting against the govt on these topics. In the last election, do you know what was the difference between the workers party and the national solidarity party of Goh Meng Seng? Less than 16,000 votes. that is a small number, and by some quirk of fate, the WP ended with 6 MPs, and the NSP none. It seems to me that we have voted in the wrong oppo party.

But I digress. Going back to Pritam, I call to mind the debate in parliament recently over the Protection from Harassment Act. we all know what this Act is. Its just more power for the PAP to whack critics. In particular, this clause:

Threatening, abusing or insulting public servant or public
service worker
10
6.
(1) No person shall by any means
a
) use any indecent, threatening, abusive or insulting words or
behaviour; or
b
) make any indecent, threatening, abusive or insulting
communication,
15
towards or to a public servant or public service worker (referred to for
the purposes of this section as the victim) in relation to the execution
of the victims duty as such public servant or public service worker.

However, would you believe that Pritam and the WP voted for this bill? In fact, he voted for it even though he claims to have misgivings.

Madam Speaker, my concerns about the potentially wide-ranging application of Section 7 notwithstanding, I support the Bill.

Its amazing that an oppo party would even vote for anything bill that the PAP puts up, much less such a controversial bill as the Harassment Act. Every single bill put up should be vehemently opposed by the WP. So, really, he and the WP are basically PAP stooges. If you ever wonder why Gay Loong is not afraid of the next elections is because he has already inflitrated the WP, and that no matter how many seats the PAP loses to the WP, he can count on them to vote with him each and every time. JBJ would turn in his grave if he saw the WP today.

So, really, who is the sincere SIngh here? HArd to tell, right? I think we really have to be careful of the oppo party we choose at the next elections. i will still vote oppo, but not the WP.

 

[blindswordsman]

Let's be clear first. If you are talking about this bill, then you are talking about this bill and discuss the merits and demerits of this bill. If you are talking about all bills, then we look at all the previous voting patterns of all the bills and determine if WP MPs "have yet to vote against any PAP bill" is true.

One aye for this particular bill does not make WP a stooge of the pappies. What is right and good for the country should be supported but what is harmful to sinkies' interest or the country should be turned down.

 

[jw5]

So, really, who is the sincere SIngh here? HArd to tell, right? I think we really have to be careful of the oppo party we choose at the next elections. i will still vote oppo, but not the WP.

If it's any opposition party vs MIW party, ALWAYS vote opposition party, whether WP, SDP, NSP, RP, SFP, SPP, DPP, SDA, whatever.
If it's a 3 corner fight, you are free to vote the other non-WP party. LOL .................................

You vote the oppo, he may or may not back pappy, but will likely be entertaining.
You vote the MIW, he 100% confirmed and chop back pappy, and likely to be boring shit.

6.9 million population, most pappy voted aye, ALL WP party members plus a few NMPs including Laurence Lien and Janice voted nay.
Please see the attached thread courtesy of forummer xingguy.
http://singsupplies.com/showthread....MPs-NCMPs-VOTED-IN-THE-POPULATION-WHITE-PAPER

If you asked me, Inderjit is merely playing the role that TCB and Lily used to play on other topics.

As for this bill, ok it's a pappy origin, but if it helps public servants or public service workers especially healthcare professionals and transport operators, I'm for it too. I really wish it would exclude the overpaid buffoons, but it doesn't. You could be right that this could be their main intention, but the abuse of public service workers is also a serious problem. And that's because sinkies including poor ones, have become fucking arrogant and demanding, a trait that they acquired from laucheebye.

 

[steffychun]

WP is playing it properly. If you want to vote all against you are opposing for the sake of opposing.

 

[Cosmos10]

50 years under PAP is a hard nut to crack open.

Whatever laws implemented can be abolish when Oppo come into power. Perhaps the time is not ripe yet, the numbers are not strong even to make noises or reject the bill.

 

[xingguy]

I hate to say this, and anyone who knows me in this forum, knows that I hate the PAP. but I have come to conclusion recently, after looking at the voting records of the WP, that they are indeed, no better than the PAP "B" team. These guys have yet to vote, as far as I know, against any PAP bill in Parliament.

As we all know, the recent Facebook postings by Inderjit SIngh covered a wide range of topics and some of them dramatically opposed to the PAPs. I don't really know what to make of this guy. I believe its all fake and a trial balloon. He is after all still voting yea on all the other PAP policies although he abstained from the 6.9 million population white paper. If this guy is for real, he should run as an independent in the next election. I think he would be a shoo in to win, if he disavowed the PAP, not join any oppo parties, and just be an independent candidate.

On the other side, the Workers Party side, we have Pritam Singh. He is a member of an oppo party that has mysteriously stayed silent on all the recent salient issues, i.e. Little India riots, Phillipines National day celebration in Orchard, Anton Casey, train delays, and the recent CPF/Roy lawsuits. every other political oppo party has something in its websites commenting against the govt on these topics. In the last election, do you know what was the difference between the workers party and the national solidarity party of Goh Meng Seng? Less than 16,000 votes. that is a small number, and by some quirk of fate, the WP ended with 6 MPs, and the NSP none. It seems to me that we have voted in the wrong oppo party.

But I digress. Going back to Pritam, I call to mind the debate in parliament recently over the Protection from Harassment Act. we all know what this Act is. Its just more power for the PAP to whack critics. In particular, this clause:

Threatening, abusing or insulting public servant or public
service worker
10
6.
(1) No person shall by any means
a
) use any indecent, threatening, abusive or insulting words or
behaviour; or
b
) make any indecent, threatening, abusive or insulting
communication,
15
towards or to a public servant or public service worker (referred to for
the purposes of this section as the victim) in relation to the execution
of the victims duty as such public servant or public service worker.

However, would you believe that Pritam and the WP voted for this bill? In fact, he voted for it even though he claims to have misgivings.

Madam Speaker, my concerns about the potentially wide-ranging application of Section 7 notwithstanding, I support the Bill.

Its amazing that an oppo party would even vote for anything bill that the PAP puts up, much less such a controversial bill as the Harassment Act. Every single bill put up should be vehemently opposed by the WP. So, really, he and the WP are basically PAP stooges. If you ever wonder why Gay Loong is not afraid of the next elections is because he has already inflitrated the WP, and that no matter how many seats the PAP loses to the WP, he can count on them to vote with him each and every time. JBJ would turn in his grave if he saw the WP today.

So, really, who is the sincere SIngh here? HArd to tell, right? I think we really have to be careful of the oppo party we choose at the next elections. i will still vote oppo, but not the WP.

Inderjit Singh did not abstain from voting on the 6.9 million population white paper.
He did not vote!!

 

[tanwahtiu]

I see.

That is why he is a short timer. Was he killed?

 

[sleaguepunter]

Uncle, WP vote aye to protect the civil service rank and file lah. While the bill includes the bastards and bitches, WP had no choice as it for the common good for the ppl at the bottom.

 

[jw5]

Inderjit Singh did not abstain from voting on the 6.9 million population white paper.
He did not vote!!

Oh, ok noted.
He didn't turn up that day because something more urgent? okok noted...........................

 

[Cosmos10]

I see.

That is why he is a short timer. Was he killed?

Yes, it was sad he had a short life.

But generations of Americans remember him proudly... There is a public holiday in the USA that is remembered every year in his name - the Martin Luther King Day.

Now, the Americans do not have that many public holidays in any single year, and it is a real honor to dedicate a rare public holiday to remember Martin Luther King Jr.

 

[tanwahp]

Oh, ok noted.
He didn't turn up that day because something more urgent? okok noted...........................

Probably after KPKB, when it came to voting time, he feigned a stomachache and went to toilet. By the time he come back, topic over.

 

[steffychun]

If you people hate the WP, please join GMS or TJS.

 

[CHAOTIC]

This bayi dare to rebut his own party. He agreed singaporean life has not improve last 3 years.

 

[jw5]

Probably after KPKB, when it came to voting time, he feigned a stomachache and went to toilet. By the time he come back, topic over.

Stomachache can be urgent, we or at least those seated around him wouldn't want him crapping his pants...................

 

[xingguy]

Stomachache can be urgent, we or at least those seated around him wouldn't want him crapping his pants...................

Here is the attendence list on the day of the voting.
Source: Parliamentary Debates

PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES
SINGAPORE
OFFICIAL REPORT
TWELFTH PARLIAMENT
PART III OF FIRST SESSIONVOLUME 90
Friday, 8 February 2013
The House met at 12.30 pm
PRESENT:

Mdm SPEAKER (Mdm Halimah Yacob (Jurong)).
Mr Ang Hin Kee (Ang Mo Kio).
Mr Ang Wei Neng (Jurong).
Mr Baey Yam Keng (Tampines).
Mr Chan Chun Sing (Tanjong Pagar), Acting Minister for Social and Family Development and Senior Minister of State for Defence.
Mr Chen Show Mao (Aljunied).
Mrs Lina Chiam (Non-Constituency Member).
Mr Charles Chong (Joo Chiat), Deputy Speaker.
Mr Christopher de Souza (Holland-Bukit Timah).
Mr R Dhinakaran (Nominated Member).
Ms Faizah Jamal (Nominated Member).
Mr Nicholas Fang (Nominated Member).
Assoc Prof Fatimah Lateef (Marine Parade).
Mr Arthur Fong (West Coast).
Mr Cedric Foo Chee Keng (Pioneer).
Ms Foo Mee Har (West Coast).
Ms Grace Fu Hai Yien (Yuhua), Minister, Prime Minister's Office, Second Minister for the Environment and Water Resources and Second Minister for Foreign Affairs.
Mr Gan Kim Yong (Chua Chu Kang), Minister for Health and Government Whip.
Mr Gan Thiam Poh (Pasir Ris-Punggol).
Mr Gerald Giam Yean Song (Non-Constituency Member).
Mr Goh Chok Tong (Marine Parade).
Mr Hawazi Daipi (Sembawang), Senior Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Education and Acting Minister for Manpower.
Mr Heng Chee How (Whampoa), Senior Minister of State, Prime Minister's Office and Deputy Leader of the House.
Mr Heng Swee Keat (Tampines), Minister for Education.
Mr Hri Kumar Nair (Bishan-Toa Payoh).
Mr Inderjit Singh (Ang Mo Kio).
Ms Indranee Rajah (Tanjong Pagar), Senior Minister of State for Education and Law.
Dr Intan Azura Mokhtar (Ang Mo Kio).
Mr S Iswaran (West Coast), Minister, Prime Minister's Office, Second Minister for Home Affairs and Second Minister for Trade and Industry.
Dr Janil Puthucheary (Pasir Ris-Punggol).
Mr Khaw Boon Wan (Sembawang), Minister for National Development.
Dr Amy Khor Lean Suan (Hong Kah North), Minister of State for Health and Manpower and Deputy Government Whip.
Ms Janice Koh (Nominated Member).
Dr Lam Pin Min (Sengkang West).
Er Dr Lee Bee Wah (Nee Soon).
Mr Desmond Lee (Jurong).
Ms Ellen Lee (Sembawang).
Mr Lee Hsien Loong (Ang Mo Kio), Prime Minister.
Ms Lee Li Lian (Punggol East).
Mr Lee Yi Shyan (East Coast), Senior Minister of State for National Development and Trade and Industry.
Mr Liang Eng Hwa (Holland-Bukit Timah).
Mr Laurence Lien (Nominated Member).
Ms Mary Liew (Nominated Member).
Mr Lim Biow Chuan (Mountbatten).
Mr Lim Hng Kiang (West Coast), Minister for Trade and Industry.
Mr Lim Swee Say (East Coast), Minister, Prime Minister's Office.
Ms Sylvia Lim (Aljunied).
Dr Lim Wee Kiak (Nee Soon).
Miss Penny Low (Pasir Ris-Punggol).
Mr Low Thia Khiang (Aljunied).
Ms Low Yen Ling (Chua Chu Kang).
Mr Lui Tuck Yew (Moulmein-Kallang), Minister for Transport
Mr Mah Bow Tan (Tampines).
Mr Masagos Zulkifli B M M (Tampines), Senior Minister of State for Foreign Affairs and Home Affairs.
Dr Mohamad Maliki Bin Osman (East Coast), Senior Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Defence and Minister for National Development.
Mr Muhamad Faisal Bin Abdul Manap (Aljunied).
Assoc Prof Dr Muhammad Faishal Ibrahim (Nee Soon), Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Health and Minister for Transport.
Dr Lily Neo (Tanjong Pagar).
Dr Ng Eng Hen (Bishan-Toa Payoh), Minister for Defence and Leader of the House.
Ms Irene Ng Phek Hoong (Tampines).
Mr David Ong (Jurong).
Mr Ong Teng Koon (Sembawang).
Ms Denise Phua Lay Peng (Moulmein-Kallang).
Mr Png Eng Huat (Hougang).
Mr Pritam Singh (Aljunied).
Mr Seah Kian Peng (Marine Parade), Deputy Speaker.
Mr Seng Han Thong (Ang Mo Kio).
Mr K Shanmugam (Nee Soon), Minister for Foreign Affairs and Minister for Law.
Ms Sim Ann (Holland-Bukit Timah), Senior Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Communications and Information and Minister for Education.
Mr Sitoh Yih Pin (Potong Pasir).
Mr Sam Tan Chin Siong (Radin Mas), Senior Parliamentary Secretary to the Acting Minister for Culture, Community and Youth and Minister for Foreign Affairs.
Mr Tan Chuan-Jin (Marine Parade), Acting Minister for Manpower and Senior Minister of State for National Development.
Asst Prof Tan Kheng Boon Eugene (Nominated Member).
Ms Jessica Tan Soon Neo (East Coast).
Mr Patrick Tay Teck Guan (Nee Soon).
Mr Teo Chee Hean (Pasir Ris-Punggol), Deputy Prime Minister and Coordinating Minister for National Security and Minister for Home Affairs.
Dr Teo Ho Pin (Bukit Panjang), Deputy Government Whip.
Mrs Josephine Teo (Bishan-Toa Payoh), Minister of State for Finance and Transport.
Mr Teo Ser Luck (Pasir Ris-Punggol), Minister of State for Trade and Industry.
Mr Teo Siong Seng (Nominated Member).
Mr Tharman Shanmugaratnam (Jurong), Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Finance.
Ms Tin Pei Ling (Marine Parade).
Mr Edwin Tong Chun Fai (Moulmein-Kallang).
Mr Vikram Nair (Sembawang).
Dr Vivian Balakrishnan (Holland-Bukit Timah), Minister for the Environment and Water Resources.
Mr Wong Kan Seng (Bishan-Toa Payoh).
Mr Lawrence Wong (West Coast), Acting Minister for Culture, Community and Youth and Senior Minister of State for Communications and Information.
Assoc Prof Dr Yaacob Ibrahim (Moulmein-Kallang), Minister for Communications and Information and Minister-in-charge of Muslim Affairs.
Mr Alex Yam (Chua Chu Kang).
Mr Yee Jenn Jong (Non-Constituency Member).
Mr Yeo Guat Kwang (Ang Mo Kio).
Mr Zainal Sapari (Pasir Ris-Punggol).
Mr Zainudin Nordin (Bishan-Toa Payoh).
Mr Zaqy Mohamad (Chua Chu Kang).
ABSENT:

Dr Chia Shi-Lu (Tanjong Pagar).
Mr Lee Kuan Yew (Tanjong Pagar).
Mr Raymond Lim Siang Keat (East Coast).
Ms Tan Su Shan (Nominated Member).
Mr Alvin Yeo (Chua Chu Kang).
PERMISSION TO MEMBERS TO BE ABSENT

Under the provisions of clause 2(d) of Article 46 of the Constitution of the Republic of Singapore, the following Members have been granted permission by the Speaker to be absent from sittings of Parliament (or any Committee of Parliament to which they have been appointed) for the periods stated:
Name From To
(2013) (2013)
Mr Lee Kuan Yew 08 Feb 08 Feb
Ms Tan Su Shan 08 Feb 08 Feb
08 Feb 08 Feb
Dr Vivian Balakrishnan 10 Feb 13 Feb
Dr Teo Ho Pin 14 Feb 14 Feb
19 Feb 26 Feb
22 Mar 24 Mar

 

[Satyr]

One aye for this particular bill does not make WP a stooge of the pappies. What is right and good for the country should be supported but what is harmful to sinkies' interest or the country should be turned down.

That's right. How can anyone vote against motherhood ? The MSM would have had a field day.

 

[jw5]

Here is the attendence list on the day of the voting.

Mr Inderjit Singh (Ang Mo Kio).

OIC, thks for the info, so he was there but he didn't vote? Liddat can meh? Or do we go back to the pangsai theory?

 

[xingguy]

OIC, thks for the info, so he was there but he didn't vote? Liddat can meh? Or do we go back to the pangsai theory?

Some says that he is scare of the party whip.

Maybe it is time to give him a blanket party