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Singaporeans in demand elsewhere

myo539

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It appears that Singaporeans have extremely high standards and expectations. They think their own people are not good enough for this and that (except themselves perhaps). For examples, their singers are not good enough, their footballers are no good, and of course their ministers are not good enough to run the housing, the economy, the transport system, the education - and the country in general.

Don't valuable their own singers - Stefani Sun was relatively unknown in Singapore while she made a name elsewhere - she sold more than 30 million copies of her albums! For that matter, Kit Chan is also better known and appreciated in Hong Kong and Taiwan than in Singapore.

The Indonesians are willing to pay footballer Fandi Ahmad much more than what he can dream of in Singapore (with house and car thrown in).

How much do Singaporeans value their ministers? What's the opportunity cost of serving as an unenviable minister in Singapore? Wiseman LKY has repeatedly said the ministers can earn much more elswhere than as a minister in Singapore. Let's look at a few examples when the ministers left their porfolio:

Ex-Minister for Defence - Dr Yeo Ning Hong Chairman of Singapore Technologies and Port of Singapore Authority.

Ex-Minister for Community and the Arts - Dr Lee Boon Yang became Chairman of SPH.
http://www.asiaone.com/Business/News/Story/A1Story20111201-313853.html

Ex- Foreign Minister George Yeo - became Vice-chairman of Kerry Group (HK) and Senior Advisor of Kuoi Group (Malaysia)
http://news.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20111216-316693.html

Ex-Minister for Transport Raymond Lim - became a senior adviser of John Swire & Sons (S.E. Asia); director and senior adviser of APS Asset Management.
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_741710.html

Ex-Minister Lim Hwee Hua - director at Jardine Cycle & Carriage, Senior Advisor of global investment firm Kohlberg Kravis Roberts.
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_721769.html

I am sure these ex-minister will earn much more in their new job than as a minister. And their new jobs do not necessarily have to depend on GLCs or any government associated companies. So less duties and scope but more salary - that's the hard truth!

Perhaps Singaporeans do not know what they are missing not having their ministers until they are gone. Wiseman LKY concludes that Singaporeans are "ignorant"
(“The Taiwanese are ruthless, Hong Kongers are shameless and Singaporeans are ignorant.”)

Don't like the transport system? - the Malaysians would love to have them. Don't like the education system? - the Chinese would willingly pay for them. Don't like the economy - the Filipinos would die to have them. Don't like the incorruptible government - the Indonesians would pray to have someone like the ministers.
 
Based on what you have posted. Then it should be.

Singaporeans are hardly in demand elsewhere.
 
Don't like the pro-business policies? MNCs and Jim Rogers love them.
 
They think their own people are not good enough for this and that (except themselves perhaps). For examples, their singers are not good enough, their footballers are no good, and of course their ministers are not good enough to run the housing, the economy, the transport system, the education - and the country in general.

Since we Singaporeans are so dependent on foreigners, may I suggest that even our President, PM and all other ministers be "imported" from other countries. This is what the DBS, The Mas Sick and so many other corporations are doing. Even medicine in hospitals is being dispensed by Pinays and Pinoys, whose "as a MAARTYR of FARK" speech we simply cannot comprehend.
For our political leaders we need not look far. Clinton and George Bush is around. Arroyo is willing to come here and so is Estrada. From across the causeway we have a "Doctor in the House" and his best friend Sammy Velly (hope no relations with Sammyboy).
There are many more waiting in India.
Singapore should just send one full page advestisement for the top jobs and there will be a scramble for it from Argentina to Zimbabwe.
 
Even the N.z government is trying to pull sinkies to work/migrate there.

The government knows we are solid and sg will turn to shit if we are gone and that is why folks, So many countries have work/holiday visa in Sg but Singaporeans dont have work/holiday visa in any country, Even Malaysians have Work/holiday visa in Australia but our Sinkie government doesnt allow them to give it to us cos once we are there we will stay there and believe me, We will live a far more decent life then in sinkie land and never return etc..Ah leong is one.. My last 6months in Australia on my student visa was working as a manager and i was chosen instead of the locals but i left cos i wanted to come back here and be with my family..Boy was that a wrong choice. Lots of my Sinkie mates who are studying there hold solid positions even as part-timers and many get jobs there after their studies. The government is constantly labeling us as idiots and trying to put us down, But look at who build sinkieland to where it is now(We even allowed thousands of bangalas/thais to be living in bungalows in their home land now, Most of them should be towkays back home now) All the institution/infrastructure with 1st world standard was already in place b4 the Influx occurred and was developed by the early 1990s when the population of Citizens, P.R and foreigners were low.
 
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How much do Singaporeans value their ministers? What's the opportunity cost of serving as an unenviable minister in Singapore? Wiseman LKY has repeatedly said the ministers can earn much more elswhere than as a minister in Singapore. Let's look at a few examples when the ministers left their porfolio:

Ex-Minister for Defence - Dr Yeo Ning Hong Chairman of Singapore Technologies and Port of Singapore Authority.

Ex-Minister for Community and the Arts - Dr Lee Boon Yang became Chairman of SPH.
http://www.asiaone.com/Business/News...01-313853.html

Ex- Foreign Minister George Yeo - became Vice-chairman of Kerry Group (HK) and Senior Advisor of Kuoi Group (Malaysia)
http://news.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne...16-316693.html

Ex-Minister for Transport Raymond Lim - became a senior adviser of John Swire & Sons (S.E. Asia); director and senior adviser of APS Asset Management.
http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_741710.html

Ex-Minister Lim Hwee Hua - director at Jardine Cycle & Carriage, Senior Advisor of global investment firm Kohlberg Kravis Roberts.
http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_721769.html



These EX MINISTARS obtained these positions not out of their own merits, but given to them on a platter by their PAP Masters for their loyal service to the regime.. Your love for the PAP makes me feel so nauseous.. Please don't make me vomit out my breakfast on a lovely Saturday morning..
 
It appears that Singaporeans have extremely high standards and expectations. They think their own people are not good enough for this and that (except themselves perhaps). For examples, their singers are not good enough, their footballers are no good, and of course their ministers are not good enough to run the housing, the economy, the transport system, the education - and the country in general.

Don't valuable their own singers - Stefani Sun was relatively unknown in Singapore while she made a name elsewhere - she sold more than 30 million copies of her albums! For that matter, Kit Chan is also better known and appreciated in Hong Kong and Taiwan than in Singapore.

The Indonesians are willing to pay footballer Fandi Ahmad much more than what he can dream of in Singapore (with house and car thrown in).

How much do Singaporeans value their ministers? What's the opportunity cost of serving as an unenviable minister in Singapore? Wiseman LKY has repeatedly said the ministers can earn much more elswhere than as a minister in Singapore. Let's look at a few examples when the ministers left their porfolio:

Ex-Minister for Defence - Dr Yeo Ning Hong Chairman of Singapore Technologies and Port of Singapore Authority.

Ex-Minister for Community and the Arts - Dr Lee Boon Yang became Chairman of SPH.
http://www.asiaone.com/Business/News/Story/A1Story20111201-313853.html

Ex- Foreign Minister George Yeo - became Vice-chairman of Kerry Group (HK) and Senior Advisor of Kuoi Group (Malaysia)
http://news.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20111216-316693.html

Ex-Minister for Transport Raymond Lim - became a senior adviser of John Swire & Sons (S.E. Asia); director and senior adviser of APS Asset Management.
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_741710.html

Ex-Minister Lim Hwee Hua - director at Jardine Cycle & Carriage, Senior Advisor of global investment firm Kohlberg Kravis Roberts.
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_721769.html

I am sure these ex-minister will earn much more in their new job than as a minister. And their new jobs do not necessarily have to depend on GLCs or any government associated companies. So less duties and scope but more salary - that's the hard truth!

Perhaps Singaporeans do not know what they are missing not having their ministers until they are gone. Wiseman LKY concludes that Singaporeans are "ignorant"
(“The Taiwanese are ruthless, Hong Kongers are shameless and Singaporeans are ignorant.”)

Don't like the transport system? - the Malaysians would love to have them. Don't like the education system? - the Chinese would willingly pay for them. Don't like the economy - the Filipinos would die to have them. Don't like the incorruptible government - the Indonesians would pray to have someone like the ministers.

We are not Malaysians, PRCs, Pinoys or Indons! What kind of comparison is that?
KAN NI NU BU PHUA CHEE BYE! :oIo:
 
Blame the PAP. When voters in an opposition ward voted PAP in the election PAP still say not good enough. All opposition must be demolished even you voted back PAP. Kill it.
 
These EX MINISTARS obtained these positions not out of their own merits, but given to them on a platter by their PAP Masters for their loyal service to the regime.. Your love for the PAP makes me feel so nauseous.. Please don't make me vomit out my breakfast on a lovely Saturday morning..

The hard truths are often difficult to stomach - you will die in your own vomit. Wiseman LKY wisely called it "Hard Truths" in his book. Ignore it at your own peril.
 
We are not Malaysians, PRCs, Pinoys or Indons! What kind of comparison is that?

LKY is too polite to call ingrates like you "Ignorant". He should simply call ingrates like you "STUPID!"
Read this commentary to educate yourself. It is written by a Malaysian, who also happens to be the nephew of ex-PM Mahathir - a staunch critic of LKY.

Nothing to do with these countries - read the last paragraph!

Ahmad Mustapha on Lee Kuan Yew (Author of "The Unmaking of Malaysia")
Singapore’s Minister Mentor, Lee Kuan Yew, who was Singapore’s founding father, has always been very direct in his comments. This was the man who outsmarted the communists in Singapore (with the innocent help of Malaya then and the willing help of the British) and who later outwitted the British and outpaced Malaysia in all spheres.

Singapore practises meritocracy and Malaysia affirmative action. The former attracted all the best brains and the latter chased out all the brains. The Singapore cabinet consists of dedicated and intelligent technocrats whereas Malaysia has one the most unwieldy cabinet. Not only that, brain wise it was below par.

With that kind of composition, one that is very brainy, naturally Singapore, with no natural resources could outstrip Malaysia in every aspect of development. Malaysia, on the other hand, was too much preoccupied with its Malayness and the illusory “ketuanan Melayu” and was also more interested in iconic development rather than real social and economic development.

Whenever Kuan Yew utters anything that deemed to be a slight on Malaysia, voices were raised admonishing him. Malaysia would never dare to face reality. That Singapore had shown that it could survive was a slap on those who believed that Singapore would fold up once it left Malaysia. Therefore it was natural that these doomsayers would try to rationalise their utterances to be in their favour to combat on whatever Kuan Yew commented.

Singapore achieved its development status without any fanfare. But here in Malaysia, a development that was deceptive was proclaimed as having achieved development status. It was trumpeted as an achievement that befits first world status. This was self delusion. Malaysians are led to believe into a make believe world, a dream world. The leaders who themselves tend to believe in their own fabricated world did not realise the people were not taken in by this kind of illusion.

Lee Kuan Yew believed in calling a spade a spade. I was there in Singapore when the People’s Action Party won the elections in 1959. He was forthright in his briefing to party members as to what was expected of them and what Singapore would face in the future. Ideologically, I did not agree with him. We in the University of Malaya Socialist Club had a different interpretation of socialist reconstruction. But he was a pragmatist and wanted to bring development and welfare to the Singaporeans. Well! He succeeded.

Malaysia was so much embroiled in racial politics and due to the fear of losing political power, all actions taken by the main party in power was never targeted towards bringing wealth to all. Wealth was distributed to the chosen few only. They were the cronies and the backers of the party leadership.

Seeing the efficiency and the progress achieved by Singapore caused the Malaysian leadership to suffer from an inferiority complex. That Malaysia should suffer from this complex was of its own making.

In a recent interview, Kuan Yew said that Malaysia could have done better if only it treated its minority Chinese and Indian population fairly. He added that Singapore was a standing indictment to what Malaysia could have done differently. He just hit the nail right there on the head.

Malaysia recently celebrated its 50th year of independence with a bagful of uncertainties. The racial divide has become more acute. The number of Malay graduates unemployed is on the increase. And this aspect can be very explosive. But sad to see that no positive actions have been taken to address these social ills.

Various excuses were given by Malaysian leaders why Singapore had far outstripped Malaysia in all aspects of social and economic advancement. Singapore was small, they rationalised and therefore easy to manage. Singapore was not a state but merely an island.

There was one other aspect that Malaysia practises and that is to politicise all aspects of life. All government organs and machinery were ‘UMNO-ised’. This was to ensure that the party will remain in power. Thus there was this misconception by the instruments of government as to what national interest is and what UMNO vested interest is.

UMNO vested interest only benefited a few and not the whole nation. But due to the UMNO-isation of the various instruments of government, the country under the present administration had equated UMNO vested interest as being that of national interest. Thus development became an avenue of making money and not for the benefit of the people. The fight against corruption took a back seat. Transparency was put on hold. And the instruments of government took it to be of national interest to cater to the vested interest of UMNO. Enforcement of various enactments and laws was selective. Thus a ‘palace’ in Kelang could exist without proper procedure.

Singapore did not politicise its instruments of government. If ever politicisation took place, it is guided by national interest. To be efficient and to be the best in the region was of paramount importance. Thus all the elements like corruption, lackadaisical attitude towards work and other black elements, which would retard such an aim, were eliminated. Singapore naturally had placed the right priority in it’s pursuit to achieve what is best for its people. This is the major difference between these two independent countries.

Malaysia in its various attempts to cover up its failures embarked on several diversions. It wanted its citizens to be proud that the country had the tallest twin -tower in the world, although the structure was designed and built by foreigners. It achieved in sending a man into space at an exorbitant price. These are what the Malays of old would say “menang sorak” (hollow victories).

It should be realised that administering a country can be likened to managing a corporate entity. If the management is efficient and dedicated and know what they are doing, the company will prosper. The reverse will be if the management is poor and bad. The company will go bust.

There are five countries around this region. There is Malaysia, and then Indonesia. To the east there is the Philippines and then there is that small enclave called the Sultanate of Brunei. All these four countries have abundance of natural resources but none can lay claim to have used all these resources to benefit the people. Poverty was rampant and independence had not brought in any significant benefits to the people.

But tiny Singapore without any resources at all managed to bring development to its citizens. It had one of the best public transport system in the world and it is a very clean city state.

It is impossible to compare what Singapore has achieved to what all these four countries had so far achieved. It was actually poor management and nothing more. Everything is done for the vested interest of the few.

Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines and the Sultanate of Brunei need good management teams. They would not be able to do this on their own steam. I would advise that they call on Kuan Yew to show them what good governance is.
 
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