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Chitchat Singaporean says he spends 40% less a month after moving to Johor

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Singaporean says he spends 40% less a month after moving to Johor

Dollars and Sense
Wednesday, Jun 08, 2016


We all heard about Malaysians who commute to Singapore daily for work. They stay in Malaysia, usually Johor, and enjoy the lower cost of living and favourable exchange rate. Some of us may even envy that. We look at our Singapore denominated salary and wonder to ourselves how much more our salary could stretch if only we could spend it in a cheaper country.


Staying in Johor but working online in Johor

We recently caught up with a good friend of ours to talk about this. Gabriel Tan, who was formerly a consultant in the investor relation space, decided to leave his job in 2014 to focus on a few businesses that he was running.

Gabriel is a partner in Max Polish, one of Singapore's leading car grooming companies. The most unique thing about Max Polish is that they actually go to your house to groom your car for you. And they are very active online, particularly in social media. Gabriel's main role in the business is to support the company in its digital marketing plans.

Aside from running Max Polish, Gabriel also runs a company called M.A.P. Marketing, a business that specialises in helping SMEs with their digital and social media marketing. Gabriel is also an investor in a coffee shop in Singapore.

Gabriel, who is currently in his mid 30s, decided to give living in Malaysia a try to see if he could lower his personal expenses significantly while still running his Singapore businesses from abroad. To ensure that he could still physically be around to take care of his businesses when the need arises, he decided to base himself in nearby Johor Bahru. He has been living there since December 2014.


Cost of living is about 40 per cent cheaper in Johor, Malaysia

Based on Gabriel's own personal estimate, he spends about 40 per cent less each month now that he is based in Malaysia.

When you think about it, this really makes a lot of sense. Being an entrepreneur who does most of his work online, it does not matter if a person is working from a swanky CBD office in Singapore, or his own home office at Johor. The work can be done equally fast and well, as long as you have access to good Wi-Fi.

It goes without saying that saving money on office rent while working from home makes perfect financial sense for many entrepreneurs who runs their business online. For Gabriel, rent saving comes in two different forms.

Firstly, he saves money by not needing an office in Singapore since he works from home. Secondly, he is also saving money on rent by staying in Malaysia.

Gabriel was previously renting a 1,500 square feet condominium unit at Upper East Coast for $3,600. Today, he rents a 1,600 square feet condominium unit situated right above the popular KSL shopping mall. Think of it as Orchard Residence, the condominium development right above Ion Orchard. He pays RM3,300 each month for rent, or about S$1,100.

He co-shares the apartment with one other friend. In other words, Gabriel pays about S$550 a month for rent each month.

Aside from rental, Gabriel shared with us that he spends less than RM5,000 (S$1,667) a month. And that's with a very comfortable style of living. He has restaurant meals and spends when he needs to. In total, we estimate that Gabriel spend less than S$2,200 each month living in Malaysia. He used to spend about S$4,000 in Singapore.



Commuting from Johor to Singapore

Unlike many Malaysians who work regular hours job in Singapore, and are forced to cope with the jam during peak hours at the Causeway, Gabriel has much more flexibility with his own schedule.

On average, Gabriel comes into Singapore about 1-2 times a week to meet up with his clients, business partners and family members.

Aside from that, any other discussion can be taken over the phone, via email or through text messages. When you think about it, that's how many of us communicate with our colleagues and clients anyway.

It is interesting to note that because he has control of his schedule as an entrepreneur, Gabriel is able to deliberately plan his meetings such that he does not need to come through the Causeway during peak period. On average, he takes about 1 hour 15 minutes to get from his home in to his meeting destinations in Singapore. In fact, he can even reach his parents' place at Serangoon in less than 40 minutes if he decides to visit them at night.
 

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About 5,000 Singaporean families have set up home in Johor

The Straits Times
Saturday, May 28, 2016


According to a 2014 estimate by the Johor-Singapore Community Care Association, about 5,000 Singaporean families have set up home across the Causeway.

Some are retirees, such as 68-year-old Amy Tan, who moved in 2014 after her husband retired. Others, such as Mr Ang Khartono Jamil Hanmin, 35, who works in events project management, still work in Singapore, but have chosen to live in Johor Baru and commute between the two cities daily.

Mr Ang says one could buy a terrace house in Johor Baru for the price of a three-room HDB flat in Singapore.

Cost of living was also the main reason behind Ms Noraini Mokhtar's move. The 47-year-old decided to become a stay-home mum five years ago. Bringing up six children on one income, she and her husband decided that living in Johor Baru would be more viable.

Cheaper cars are another draw. A BMW 320i Sedan Sport retails at $193,800 (after $5,000 CEVS rebate) in Singapore. Its equivalent costs RM231,800 (S$78,270) in Malaysia - about 60 per cent cheaper.

A 2.4-litre Honda Odyssey EXV costs $158,999 in Singapore and RM248,288 in Malaysia - almost half the price.

Singaporeans who take up the Malaysia My Second Home (MM2H) Programme are allowed to import one car into Malaysia or buy a locally made car with duty and sales tax exemptions.

In addition to the already substantial differences in car prices, these tax exemptions mean even bigger savings.

Moreover, when one buys a car in Malaysia, one can keep it for as long as one wishes, unlike in Singapore, where the car's certificate of entitlement (COE) has to be renewed every 10 years.

Cars are cheaper to maintain as well. The road tax in Johor Baru is RM200 a year for a 1.8-litre car, compared to S$929 in Singapore. Insurance premium for the same car is less than RM2,000 a year - before no-claim discount.

The pump price for 97-octane petrol is RM2.05 a litre, which works out to be about S$0.70 - less than half the price of the lowest- grade fuel in Singapore.

But there is a big catch. While cars are cheaper in Malaysia, Singaporeans are not allowed to use or keep any foreign-registered vehicle in Singapore. This is a measure by the Land Transport Authority to control the car population in Singapore.

It also plugs the loophole for anyone attempting to bypass Singapore's COE and other vehicular taxes by buying and registering a car in Malaysia and using it in Singapore.

For those who live in Johor Baru and need to return to Singapore frequently, this is a big consideration.

But Mrs Tan says a Land Transport Authority (LTA) officer told her over the telephone that Singaporeans living or working in Johor Baru can apply for a limited exemption to this rule. This means they can drive Malaysian-registered vehicles to Singapore for an unspecified number of days a year. The LTA would not comment on this when asked.

Whether it is with a Malaysian or a Singapore-registered car, commuting between the two cities may well be the most challenging aspect of living in Johor Baru.

Mrs Tan and her husband used to shuttle between the two cities a few times a week, but started cutting back on unnecessary trips after the vehicle entry permit rates were raised in August 2014.

About a year ago, the couple traded their Singapore-registered car for a Malaysia-registered vehicle under the MM2H scheme. They now take the train across the Causeway about once a week.

Previously, they would leave home at about 6am. Their drive to Singapore took about an hour on average.

It is the same for Ms Noraini. Her children attend school in Singapore and she does the school run on most days. When she first moved to Johor Baru, she would leave home at about 6am and reach her daughter's school at 7am.

After taking her children to school, she runs errands, visits friends or goes to the library before picking them up to drive home at about 3pm. The trip back to Johor Baru is relatively smooth and she is home in about 30 minutes.

Race driver Denis Lian, 44, moved to Johor Baru in 2008 and drove to work in Singapore until 2013.

"I would leave home at 8.45am and be at the office by 9.30am. It was a very convenient arrangement," he recalls. "You only had to be aware of public holidays or school holidays, then you would plan to leave at least an hour earlier."

After work, he would get to the Second Link by about 5pm. It usually took him 20 minutes to clear immigration and customs. He stayed back to have dinner with friends on Fridays, when the jam is usually bad. During school holidays or public holidays, the journey to Johor Baru can take two hours or more.
 

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I'm getting old & I may have to get a maid to help around the house & a car to make it easier to go grocery shopping.
I can save $$$ by moving to JB because I don't have to pay a maid levy or COE.

It is also less crowded in JB with cheaper fuel, water, electricity, food, entertainment, ... I doubt I will need to return to Spore for visits because almost everyone I know is gone or going. It's also getting too expensive & crowded in Spore & I doubt that the PAP has given up on their 10 million target.
 

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I'm getting old & I may have to get a maid to help around the house & a car to make it easier to go grocery shopping.
I can save $$$ by moving to JB because I don't have to pay a maid levy or COE.

It is also less crowded in JB with cheaper fuel, water, electricity, food, entertainment, ... I doubt I will need to return to Spore for visits because almost everyone I know is gone or going. It's also getting too expensive & crowded in Spore & I doubt that the PAP has given up on their 10 million target.

I find that you always talk about leaving and you are still stuck in sinkieland.
 

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Cowards never start and the weak die along the way.
Those who want to do will do it. And those too chickenshit to leave the 'comfort and safety' of their pigeon holes.....no amount of benefits would change their zombie minds
 

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I find that you always talk about leaving and you are still stuck in sinkieland.

Fortunately I'm not stuck in Spore :biggrin:

I have a home here in Spore & must return to pay my bills & restock on my supplements.
In fact I recently returned from LOS. Will be going back in a few months when it gets cooler there.

I'm lucky to have the choice of choosing when to stay or leave. I've always liked the rainy season in Spore & that is why I am here now.
 

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how long do you have to wait in this stupid traffic?

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I rather spent 40% more!
 

johnny333

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how long do you have to wait in this stupid traffic?

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I rather spent 40% more!


Is this the weekend:confused:
Weekends are never a good time to visit JB because it is very crowded because you have Sporeans & Malaysians heading there.

Try going there on a Wednesday.
 
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