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Images show construction of China's third - and largest - aircraft carrier: Analysts

A satellite image shows what appears to be the construction of a third Chinese aircraft carrier at the Jiangnan Shipyard in Shanghai, China, Apr 17, 2019. (Image: Reuters/CSIS)

07 May 2019 02:19PM (Updated: 07 May 2019 02:20PM)
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BEIJING: Construction of China's first full-sized aircraft carrier is well under way, according to satellite images obtained and analysed by a US think tank.
The images from April, provided to Reuters by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) in Washington, reveal considerable recent activity during the last six months on a large vessel at the Jiangnan shipyard outside Shanghai.


China has not formally confirmed it is building a third carrier, despite recent hints in state media, and the timing and extent of its carrier programme remain state secrets.
The Pentagon said last week that work had begun, but no images have emerged until now.
Both Asian and Western militaries, and regional security analysts, are seeking information on the carrier, which is expected to be China's first large, modern platform capable of leading a full range of strike group operations.
The effort to build a large, locally designed carrier is seen as a core part of China's extensive military modernisation drive. A series of recent Reuters Special Reports showed how that effort is challenging decades of US strategic superiority in East Asia.


The CSIS images show a bow section that appears to end with a flat 30m front and a separate hull section 41m wide, with gantry cranes looming overhead.
That suggests a vessel, which China has dubbed Type 002, somewhat smaller than 100,000-tonne US carriers but larger than France's 42,500-tonne Charles de Gaulle, analysts say.
Fabrication halls the size of several soccer pitches have been built nearby, and work appears to be continuing on a floodable basin, possibly to float the finished hull into the nearby Yangtze River estuary.

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A satellite image shows what appears to be the construction of a third Chinese aircraft carrier at the Jiangnan Shipyard in Shanghai, Apr 17, 2019. (Image: Reuters/CSIS)

"While details regarding the Type 002 are limited, what is observable at Jiangnan is consistent with what is expected for the People's Liberation Army Navy's third aircraft carrier," said the CSIS' ChinaPower analysis, due to be published on its website later Tuesday.
CSIS analyst Matthew Funaiole told Reuters that images taken late last year were inconclusive, but that now the work under way is clear.
"From what we can see there has been a lot of activity in the last six months or so," he said. "It would appear that it is the third carrier, and if it is not, it's hard to envisage what other large vessel it would be."

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A satellite image shows what appears to be the construction of a third Chinese aircraft carrier at the Jiangnan Shipyard in Shanghai, Apr 17, 2019. (Image: Reuters/CSIS)

The Pentagon's annual report on China's military modernisation, issued last Friday, noted that the third carrier would probably be larger than the first two and fitted with a catapult launch system to accelerate aircraft during takeoff.
"This design will enable it to support additional fighter aircraft, fixed-wing early-warning aircraft, and more rapid flight operations," the report said.
Funaiole and other analysts said it was unclear what kind of catapult - traditional steam-powered or a more cutting-edge electromagnetic system - would be used.
It also remains unclear whether the Type 002 would be nuclear-powered. China has 10 nuclear-powered submarines, but so far no surface ships with nuclear propulsion; some analysts think China is not ready to make that step.
Singapore-based regional security analyst Ian Storey said a full-sized carrier would make some of China's neighbours nervous and highlight the importance of their strategic relationship with the United States.
"Once completed, it will outclass any warship from any Asian country, including India and Japan," said Storey, of the ISEAS-Yusof Ishak Institute. "It is yet another indication that China has emerged as Asia's paramount naval power."

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A satellite image shows what appears to be the construction of a third Chinese aircraft carrier at the Jiangnan Shipyard in Shanghai, China Apr 17, 2019. (Image: Reuters/CSIS)


China's first two carriers are relatively small, with only up to 25 aircraft, less than half the number aboard US carriers, and have jump ramps built into their bows. That configuration limits not just the types of aircraft that can fly off them, but how much weaponry and fuel they can carry.
Its first carrier, the Liaoning, was a Soviet-era Ukrainian ship bought secondhand in 1998 and re-fitted in China. A still-unnamed second carrier based on that design, launched in 2017, was built locally.
The Liaoning had been seen as more of a training platform for teaching personnel the tricky art of carrier operations. But last month, Chinese state media said the ship "is starting to play a combat role following recent modifications and intensive training exercises."
The second carrier has been undergoing sea trials from its base in northern Dalian and is not expected to enter service until 2020.
China's state media have quoted experts as saying China needs at least six carriers. The United States operates 11 carriers.
China's Ministry of Defence did not respond to a request for comment.
Source: Reuters/jt



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China building third and largest aircraft carrier, show images

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Updated May 07, 2019 | 14:12 IST | Reuters







China has not formally confirmed it is building a third carrier, despite recent hints in state media, and the timing and extent of its carrier programme remain state secrets.


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China building third and largest aircraft carrier

Hong Kong/Beijing: Construction of China's first full-sized aircraft carrier is well under way, according to satellite images obtained and analysed by a US think tank.
The images from April, provided to Reuters by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) in Washington, reveal considerable recent activity during the last six months on a large vessel at the Jiangnan shipyard outside Shanghai.
China has not formally confirmed it is building a third carrier, despite recent hints in state media, and the timing and extent of its carrier programme remain state secrets. The Pentagon said last week that work had begun, but no images have emerged until now.
Both Asian and Western militaries, and regional security analysts, are seeking information on the carrier, which is expected to be China's first large, modern platform capable of leading a full range of strike group operations.
The effort to build a large, locally designed carrier is seen as a core part of China's extensive military modernisation drive. A series of recent Reuters Special Reports showed how that effort is challenging decades of US strategic superiority in East Asia.
The CSIS images show a bow section that appears to end with a flat 30-metre (98-foot) front and a separate hull section 41 metres wide, with gantry cranes looming overhead.
That suggests a vessel, which China has dubbed Type 002, somewhat smaller than 100,000-tonne U.S. carriers but larger than France's 42,500-tonne Charles de Gaulle, analysts say.
Fabrication halls the size of several soccer pitches have been built nearby, and work appears to be continuing on a floodable basin, possibly to float the finished hull into the nearby Yangtze River estuary.
"While details regarding the Type 002 are limited, what is observable at Jiangnan is consistent with what is expected for the People's Liberation Army Navy's third aircraft carrier," said the CSIS' ChinaPower analysis, due to be published on its website later Tuesday.
CSIS analyst Matthew Funaiole told Reuters that images taken late last year were inconclusive, but that now the work under way is clear.
"From what we can see there has been a lot of activity in the last six months or so," he said. "It would appear that it is the third carrier, and if it is not, it's hard to envisage what other large vessel it would be."
The Pentagon's annual report on China's military modernisation, issued last Friday, noted that the third carrier would probably be larger than the first two and fitted with a catapult launch system to accelerate aircraft during takeoff.
"This design will enable it to support additional fighter aircraft, fixed-wing early-warning aircraft, and more rapid flight operations," the report said.
Funaiole and other analysts said it was unclear what kind of catapult - traditional steam-powered or a more cutting-edge electromagnetic system - would be used.
It also remains unclear whether the Type 002 would be nuclear-powered. China has 10 nuclear-powered submarines, but so far no surface ships with nuclear propulsion; some analysts think China is not ready to make that step.
Singapore-based regional security analyst Ian Storey said a full-sized carrier would make some of China's neighbours nervous and highlight the importance of their strategic relationship with the United States.
"Once completed, it will outclass any warship from any Asian country, including India and Japan," said Storey, of the ISEAS Yusof Ishak Institute. "It is yet another indication that China has emerged as Asia's paramount naval power."
China's first two carriers are relatively small, with only up to 25 aircraft, less than half the number aboard US carriers, and have jump ramps built into their bows. That configuration limits not just the types of aircraft that can fly off them, but how much weaponry and fuel they can carry.
Its first carrier, the Liaoning, was a Soviet-era Ukrainian ship bought secondhand in 1998 and re-fitted in China. A still-unnamed second carrier based on that design, launched in 2017, was built locally.
The Liaoning had been seen as more of a training platform for teaching personnel the tricky art of carrier operations. But last month, Chinese state media said the ship "is starting to play a combat role following recent modifications and intensive training exercises."
The second carrier has been undergoing sea trials from its base in northern Dalian and is not expected to enter service until 2020. China's state media have quoted experts as saying China needs at least six carriers. The United States operates 11 carriers. China's Ministry of Defence did not respond to a request for comment.


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All looks very fancy and high tech but it won't work.
 
All looks very fancy and high tech but it won't work.


Chinese warriors in Korean Peninsular & Vietnam kicked USA out to save little brothers Koreans & Vietcong, with only AK-47 essentially, against B-52 + F-4 + helicopters + tanks. American weapons are expensive and useless. Chinese essentially using WILL-POWER WITS & COURAGE & RESOLVE to win.
 
According to Russian media the Russians are expecting to see a series of upgrading by stages to improve LiaoNing Carrier. Including additional electric catapult to launch warplanes. Possible also changing from conventional power to nuke reactors.

Existing system of power is still 8X fuel burner steam turbine, which was Soviet design ruined by Ukraine's abandonment and plundering after Soviet collapse. The 3rd Chinese carrier under construction is using Gas Turbines ==>> electric drive, and the next is nuke reactor==>> electric drive.

Chinese got most advance electric drives on submarines and giant destroyers already.

Large Marine Nuke Reactors are also completed, and now testing them as floating nuke power-stations, in South China Sea, also going to test them in Nuke Power Ice-Breaker now under construction. The concept is to use nuke fuel to produce electrical power, and use advance electrical (computerized) control to drive warships. There are several world's most advanced options, from propellers , to thruster to SHAFT-LESS water pump jet (only China has) to completely no moving parts Magneto-hydrodynamic Drive (MHD) which is ultra ultra silent. All you need is 1st use nuke fuel to generate electrical power then applied to one or multiple of these drive systems.


MHD has no moving parts, only sea water is moving. Sea water conducts electric current and water becomes the moving magnet within a strong magnetic field created by superconductors - in a way to view it against a traditional motor which a moving magnet is propelled within a magnetic field. Sea water conducting electrical current substitutes the moving magnet. Current conducted within sea water has magnetic property.

https://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2019-05-08/doc-ihvhiews0522690.shtml

俄媒:辽宁舰或有更宏伟改装计划 性能将有质的飞跃

俄媒:辽宁舰或有更宏伟改装计划 性能将有质的飞跃



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辽宁舰改装
中国人民解放军海军宣布辽宁舰为“战斗舰”
经过6个月的改造,中国唯一现役的航空母舰辽宁号被中国人民解放军海军宣布为“战斗舰”。
辽宁舰的指挥官本周早些时候在中央电视台说:“辽宁舰正在从一艘训练和测试舰转变为一艘战斗舰,这个过程会越来越快,很快就会实现我们的目标。”
中国第一艘国产航空母舰001A型参加海上试航
1998年,中国从乌克兰购得5.8万吨级的瓦良格号航母改装后成为辽宁舰。自苏联解体以来瓦良格号建设停工,这艘航母一直在生锈,中国花了2000万美元转买过来。到2012年,中国建造完成,它被重新命名为辽宁号,中国国防部在2011年表示,这艘船是用于“科学研究、实验和训练”,因此从未被分配到舰队执行战斗任务。
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辽宁舰将成为战斗舰
然而,现在一切都变了,因为近年来这艘航母的角色已经发生了变化。近日辽宁舰执行副舰长在庆祝中国人民解放军海军成立70周年之际透露,经过最近的改装和密集训练,辽宁舰开始发挥作战作用。
2018年8月,“辽宁”号从大连造船厂驶出时,注意到辽宁舰指挥岛的一些表面变化,还经过了许多升级程序。辽宁舰增强了拦阻索和新型拦阻网架,显著提高了飞机着陆的安全性,提高了抗干扰能力,并扩大了飞行控制塔,具有更好的可视性。推进和动力系统也得到了升级,现在更加高效和稳定,飞行甲板和管道系统也得到了改善。
辽宁舰的指挥官在接受中央电视台采访时表示:“这些变化肯定会帮助我们充分利用这艘航母,改进我们的训练方案,进一步提高我们的作战能力。”
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辽宁舰
中国人民解放军海军装备研究中心高级研究员尹卓在央视表示:“通过辽宁舰的发展,我们了解了建造大型和超大型舰船的一些技术模式。”
俄媒透露辽宁舰将改装电磁弹射器为002号航母测试
2019年2月俄媒报告说,中国正在考虑在辽宁舰上加装电磁弹射器(EMALS)。目前世界上唯一一艘拥有这种装置的舰船是美国海军最新的航空母舰福特号,它于2017年服役。
不过福特号的电磁弹射器存在极大问题,至今只弹射过一次大黄蜂试验,美国已经把福特号的问题曝光,除了弹射器,还有拦阻系统,11部武器升降电梯只有2部正常,短期内很难解决!
这些技术难题导致美国总统特朗普哀叹“只有当爱因斯坦重生才能真正把它做好”!
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辽宁号
不过俄国专家认为,任何一种弹射系统的加入,尤其是电磁弹射系统,都将是辽宁舰性能的巨大提升,也是该计划的一大飞跃。
目前,辽宁号和它的姊妹舰,尚未命名的001a型,在他们的船头都有一个滑跳起飞装置,帮助固定翼飞机升空。这是世界上绝大多数的航空母舰飞机起飞模式,它有一个权衡:优点是安全、高效,缺点是要求跑道长度达标,而且舰载机飞机不能满载起飞,打击能力受限。
例如,俄罗斯海军在库兹涅佐夫航母(与辽宁同级)滑跳起飞速度只有130公里,而弹射起飞可达每小时260公里。
辽宁舰的主力舰载飞机是沈阳歼-15,飞机的操作也受到类似问题的限制。这严重限制了辽宁舰或001a型像美国航母那样投射空中力量的有效性。电磁弹射器和平直飞行甲板可以改变这一切。
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疑似002航母效果图
据报道,001a型航母预计将很快通过最后一轮测试并交付海军使用,第三艘002型航母预计最早在2023年下水。长期以来,外界一直猜测中国第三艘航母将配备电磁武器,如果真有,将辽宁号作为该系统的试验台将是谨慎的。(作者署名:蜀中行讲武堂)

Russian media: Liaoning ship or more magnificent conversion plan performance will have a qualitative leap
Russian media: Liaoning ship or more magnificent conversion plan performance will have a qualitative leap
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The Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy declares the Liaoning ship as a "fighting ship"

After six months of reform, China’s only active aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, was declared a “fighting ship” by the Chinese People’s Liberation Army Navy.

The commander of the Liaoning ship said earlier this week on CCTV: "The Liaoning ship is transforming from a training and test ship to a battleship. This process will be faster and faster, and we will soon achieve our goal. ”

China's first domestic aircraft carrier 001A participates in sea trials

In 1998, China purchased the 58,000-ton class Varyag carrier from Ukraine and became a Liaoning ship. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the construction of the Varyag has been suspended. The aircraft carrier has been rusting. China spent $20 million to buy it. By 2012, China was completed and it was renamed the Liaoning. The Chinese Ministry of National Defense said in 2011 that the ship was used for “scientific research, experimentation and training” and was never assigned to the fleet to perform combat missions.

Liaoning ship will become a battleship

However, everything has changed now, because the role of this aircraft carrier has changed in recent years. Recently, the executive deputy captain of the Liaoning ship revealed on the occasion of the 70th anniversary of the establishment of the Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy. After recent modifications and intensive training, the Liaoning ship began to play a fighting role.

In August 2018, when the "Liaoning" sailed out of the Dalian Shipyard, it noticed some surface changes in the Liaoning ship command island and also passed many upgrade procedures. The Liaoning ship enhanced the damper cable and the new damper grid, significantly improved the safety of the aircraft landing, improved the anti-interference ability, and expanded the flight control tower for better visibility. Propulsion and power systems have also been upgraded, now more efficient and stable, and flight decks and piping systems have also been improved.

The commander of the Liaoning ship said in an interview with CCTV: "These changes will definitely help us make full use of this aircraft carrier, improve our training program and further enhance our combat capability."

Liaoning ship

Yin Zhuo, a senior researcher at the Chinese People's Liberation Army Naval Equipment Research Center, said in CCTV: "Through the development of the Liaoning ship, we have learned some technical models for building large and very large ships."

Russian media revealed that Liaoning ship will modify electromagnetic catapult to test aircraft carrier No. 002

In February 2019, the Russian media reported that China was considering installing an electromagnetic catapult (EMALS) on the Liaoning ship. At present, the only ship in the world with such a device is the US Navy's latest aircraft carrier Ford, which was commissioned in 2017.

However, the Ford electromagnetic ejector has great problems. So far, only one bumblebee test has been ejected. The United States has exposed the Ford problem. In addition to the ejector, there are blocking systems. Only 11 weapons elevators are normal. It's hard to solve!

These technical difficulties led to US President Trump lamenting that "only when Einstein is born again can he really do it!"

Liaoning

However, Russian experts believe that the addition of any kind of ejection system, especially the electromagnetic ejection system, will be a huge improvement in the performance of the Liaoning ship, and it is also a big leap in the plan.

At present, the Liaoning and its sister ships, the unnamed 001a, have a slip-off take-off device at their bow to help the fixed-wing aircraft take off. This is the world's most aircraft carrier take-off mode, it has a trade-off: the advantage is safe, efficient, the disadvantage is that the runway length is required to meet the standard, and the carrier aircraft can not be fully loaded to take off, limited ability to strike.

For example, the Russian Navy’s Kuznetsov aircraft carrier (same level as Liaoning) has a take-off speed of only 130 km, while the catapult takes off at a speed of 260 km/h.

The main carrier aircraft of the Liaoning ship is Shenyang 歼-15, and the operation of the aircraft is also limited by similar problems. This severely limits the effectiveness of the Liaoning ship or the 001a type to project air power like the US aircraft carrier. Electromagnetic catapults and straight flight decks can change this.

Suspected 002 aircraft carrier renderings

According to reports, the 001a aircraft carrier is expected to pass the final round of testing and delivery to the Navy, and the third 002 aircraft carrier is expected to be launched as early as 2023. For a long time, the outside world has been speculating that China’s third aircraft carrier will be equipped with electromagnetic weapons. If it is, it will be prudent to use the Liaoning as a test bed for the system. (Author's signature: 蜀中行讲武堂)
 
Magnetic propulsion?how many people do you think it needs to row a ship this size?
 
Magnetic propulsion resulted in hydrogen waste gas.
That means you need a tremendous amount of electricity just to propel the vessel.
 
Magnetic propulsion resulted in hydrogen waste gas.
That means you need a tremendous amount of electricity just to propel the vessel.


The crude home made ones emits hydrogen bubbles. Military ones will not. Hydrogen is another perfect fuel, which burning it will produce clean clean steam H₂O, so you should collect hydrogen and use them. Actually, this is a process simultaneously MHD drive and electrolysis of water, breaking water into 2 parts of hydrogen (@Cathode) and one part of Oxygen(@anode).

The nuke power submarines always have too much power, they are always wasting power by heating up sea water anyway, because the nuke reactor cannot be be adjusted to any level below a minimum limit - aka when you start reactor, there is already more power than you want, you can increase to max when you are at top speed, running all your compressors and pumps and generators, and firing nuke SLBMs at max speed. Of course you won't want to over the max limit or you will die of nuke accident.

How the nuke subs can stay for months below surface is they are using electrolysis to get their oxygen from water to breath!

Process inside subs are more complicated due to salt because electrolysis of salt gets Chlorine which is highly toxic (German WW1 Chemical Warfare) !! They have to rid this, which is mixed in oxygen produced! They also have (non-hyflux) type of desalination which rids salt and produce drinking fresh water for submarine crews.

Together with all these requirements there is a complex combination of all these engineering components.








 
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