SIA and Singapore in a bad light - The Trent Rolls Royce

[Papsmearer]

Dear Scroo

I would say this that when GE and NSTB had a problem with CF6080C2 engines failing and resulting in uncontained engine failures, what happened was a similar regime of continued flying and added inspections or more thorough inspections until the problems are identified and replaced.

There was an even more horrendous incident of a DC 10 engine failure in the 80's, crash landing lost of life which whilst resulting an immediate regime of inspections did not result in a grounding of all the aircraft with that type engine derivative.

The responses vis sa vis rolls royce has been pretty standard as compared across industry. The trent 1000 incident might or might not be related as it was described instead as a failure of following test protocol.



Locke

Locke, if u know anything, u will know the circumstances are completely different. The NTSB (not NSTB) is incharge of aircraft accidents in the continental US, all 50 states, and other US territories. GE and the NTSB knows that over 90% of US flights are over land. In the cases of the GE engines suffering uncontrolled failure, the planes involved either safely landed or crashed landed in well equipped airports with medical facilities nearby. When u have this happening, u can issue a st ep up inspection notice for the airlines operating this model engine.

However, Quantas uses its 380s on extended over water flights. They do not have the luxury of landing a damaged 380 in a large modern airport shortly after an inflight accident. The explosion already caused some hydraulic failure and holes in the wing, and it was mentioned the landing flaps in the affected wing could not be deployed.If they were in the middle of an ocean, and the damage would not allow them to fly to an airport big enough to land, they will end up in the water. SQ has the same problem as most of their 380 routes are also over water. SQ should have done the prudent thing and suspend its 380 flights like Quantas.

 

[johnny333]

What is happening to our Singapore under the last 10 years of funny governance.

Spore has become a very dangerous place.

Makes one wonder about just how safe the water, the food, the environment really is,.... Even our elite PM is a suvivor of cancer. Heaven only knows what other problems is lurking out there.

It amazes me that there are supposedly educated people out there who blindly trust the "system". Some even get mad at people who critice the "system"

 

[scroobal]

One must remember that we talking about SIA and not Garuda. It came from nowhere and is now a household name the world over. It's not just the legendary SIA Girl neither is it's exemplary service standards but its high standards in ensuring top notch engineering and maintaining consistently the youngest fleet. At one stage even the Concorde carried the SIA livery.

In the early 1980, when JY Pillay placed the largest ever single order with Boeing the world woke up to the realisation that a tiny island was able to capitalise on it's strategic location and deliver outstanding results.

I have no doubts that the standards have been slipping steadily but it is still well ahead of many others in service standards and punctuality.

I in fact have a high regard for Chew who has an excellent demeanour and pretty down to earth as well as smart. I have no clue what happenned in this instance as he is a very caring individual. It is clearly a failure in leadership.

An incident presented itself at our doorstep, it was an opportunity to show the world where SIA stood on the world stage in commercial aviation and in particular on engineering safety. And more importantly on leadership in an industry where they have stood for more than 2 decades amongst the front cohort of leading airlines. It had 3 options;

1) tell the world that they are checking and treat the Qantas incident as serious
2) ground the planes until the checks are done
3) carry on as business as usual.

They chose to tell the world that their planes are ok, only to come back and make the embarrassing statement that their engines too had oil which Qantas found out earlier. To add to the embarrassment, Chew used the car recall analogy and I wonder how many felt that it was a stretch. I accept that the grouding may not be necessary but clearly showing confidence in a such a silly manner is quite irresponsible.

The slide in SIA is not just an isolated incident that things generally have been deteriorating in Singapore Inc. It probably the signs of the time.

I could not help but notice the children of the first generations of Singapore leaders both in the political and commercial world have put down stakes in 1st world countries. It seems that we losing our best and the brightest. And as a result, we are now left with 2nd best.

Let see how things progress.