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[TD="class: msgtxt"]Presidential candidates Dr Tony Tan and Tan Jee Say clashed over the issue of the Internal Security Act (ISA) in a heated exchange during a dialogue forum held on Thursday at the Fort Canning Centre.
Responding to a question by a participant over the arrest of 22 people under the ISA in 1987, investment advisor Tan Jee Say said, "I believe the ISA has outlived its usefulness."
"I don't even know whether it was justified in the first place because the ISA has been used on political opponents and those who (are) on the other political side of the law," he said, adding that "the history is such that it's been used for political purposes".
At this point, the usually-placid Dr Tony Tan jumped in and rebutted pointedly, "When one says this is used against political opponents, I think this is a very serious charge. You must be able to back it up."
Dialogue moderator Viswa Sadasivan attempted to get the latter to withhold his comments until the debate session later but an agitated Tan said, "I have been attacked on my understanding of the English language. No, no, no, Viswa, let's be fair, what's in his English dictionary about political opponents?"
Referring to Dr Tan, he went on to question, "What is in his English dictionary about political opponents?"
Dr Tan did not respond to Tan Jee Say further.
On the 1987 case in question, 22 people were arrested under the ISA and charged for a Marxist conspiracy to replace the government with a Marxist state. The ISA allows the government to arrest and detain people without trial.
During that time, Dr Tony Tan and Dr Tan Cheng Bock were part of the government as Education Minister and head of the Feedback Unit respectively, while Tan Jee Say was principal private secretary to then deputy prime minister Goh Chok Tong.
Describing the ISA as a "very blunt instrument", Dr Tan -- who has also held posts of Defence Minister and Co-ordinating Minister for Security and Defence -- said before the heated exchange that "it should only be used in the most extreme circumstances and where the government really feels that there is such a need."
"I also feel that in the present world in which we live in, needs arise where the government will have to use the ISA and only in the most extreme of circumstances," he stressed.
"This is not a comfortable statement for people to receive but that is the reality of the world today and we have to keep society safe in Singapore. We have to keep our homes safe, our people safe."
On the Marxist conspiracy, he said the cases were "very carefully discussed" in the Cabinet but declined to divulge details as they are covered under the Official Secrets Act.
"I subscribe to the principle of collective responsibility of the Cabinet. Whatever be the discussion in Cabinet, once the decision is made, it is the responsibility of the whole Cabinet to abide by the decision and take responsibility for it," said Dr Tan, noting that any future steps on the matter depends on the new information made available.
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[TD="class: msgtxt"]Presidential candidates Dr Tony Tan and Tan Jee Say clashed over the issue of the Internal Security Act (ISA) in a heated exchange during a dialogue forum held on Thursday at the Fort Canning Centre.
Responding to a question by a participant over the arrest of 22 people under the ISA in 1987, investment advisor Tan Jee Say said, "I believe the ISA has outlived its usefulness."
"I don't even know whether it was justified in the first place because the ISA has been used on political opponents and those who (are) on the other political side of the law," he said, adding that "the history is such that it's been used for political purposes".
At this point, the usually-placid Dr Tony Tan jumped in and rebutted pointedly, "When one says this is used against political opponents, I think this is a very serious charge. You must be able to back it up."
I have been attacked on my understanding of the English language. No, no, no, Viswa, let's be fair, what's in his English dictionary about political opponents? <CITE>Tan Jee Say</CITE>
Tan Jee Say then rose to the challenge and shot back, "The people who have been detained have opposed the government. That's what I'm saying."Dialogue moderator Viswa Sadasivan attempted to get the latter to withhold his comments until the debate session later but an agitated Tan said, "I have been attacked on my understanding of the English language. No, no, no, Viswa, let's be fair, what's in his English dictionary about political opponents?"
Referring to Dr Tan, he went on to question, "What is in his English dictionary about political opponents?"
Dr Tan did not respond to Tan Jee Say further.
On the 1987 case in question, 22 people were arrested under the ISA and charged for a Marxist conspiracy to replace the government with a Marxist state. The ISA allows the government to arrest and detain people without trial.
During that time, Dr Tony Tan and Dr Tan Cheng Bock were part of the government as Education Minister and head of the Feedback Unit respectively, while Tan Jee Say was principal private secretary to then deputy prime minister Goh Chok Tong.
Describing the ISA as a "very blunt instrument", Dr Tan -- who has also held posts of Defence Minister and Co-ordinating Minister for Security and Defence -- said before the heated exchange that "it should only be used in the most extreme circumstances and where the government really feels that there is such a need."
"I also feel that in the present world in which we live in, needs arise where the government will have to use the ISA and only in the most extreme of circumstances," he stressed.
"This is not a comfortable statement for people to receive but that is the reality of the world today and we have to keep society safe in Singapore. We have to keep our homes safe, our people safe."
On the Marxist conspiracy, he said the cases were "very carefully discussed" in the Cabinet but declined to divulge details as they are covered under the Official Secrets Act.
"I subscribe to the principle of collective responsibility of the Cabinet. Whatever be the discussion in Cabinet, once the decision is made, it is the responsibility of the whole Cabinet to abide by the decision and take responsibility for it," said Dr Tan, noting that any future steps on the matter depends on the new information made available.
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