I just had this experience at an Indian coffee shop in Geylang. FYI, I understand Bahasa Melayu.
Had this Malay “religious” dude site next to me and he started asking me if I knew religion. Before I could say anything, a Malay abang (bro) stopped him and told him not to bother me in Bahasa.
Next thing you know, this religious dude starts blasting abang with his diatribe about how he’s going against Islam by denying him the chance to preach, the world is full of Iblis and Syaitan (demons and the devil) etc etc. This went on for a full 5 minutes and even continued after abang picked up and left.
The least I could do was thank abang for speaking out on my behalf but man was his day ruined by this religious bro. If you’re reading this, thank you again, I never got your name.
I’m wondering, if this is a quiet struggle that moderate Malays face; being silenced by your own?
https://www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/svyqt9/the_malays_muslim_struggle/
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syanda
·2 hr. ago
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A lotta religions in Singapore experience the same, but honestly? Muslims have it the hardest because Islam is tied so deeply into the Malay identity.
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helzinki
·1 hr. ago
is a rat bastard.
At least us muslims are not in Malaysia where its a big game of spiderman pointing at spiderman accusing each other of not being muslim enough. Muslims here, aside for the very small vocal few, mind their own business.
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_IsNull
·1 hr. ago
r/malaysia got a lot of reported cases about that.
https://www.malaymail.com/news/mala...ang-islamic-councils-show-proof-she-c/2041967
also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wong_Ah_Kiu
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·14 min. ago
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jacksh2t
·7 min. ago
I think for this, Islam and Catholic children are already baptised as a baby so it’s impossible for them to be raised as a Buddhist. Their children do not choose their religion. It is chosen for them.
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redryder74
·40 min. ago
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Story related to me by a Chinese Malaysian. He experienced in a supermarket checkout where the Malay cashier refused to even touch a can of pork luncheon meat.
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·18 min. ago
Here in Brunei, we cant even put that can of luncheon meat in the same trolley or on the same checkout counter. It has its own checkout counter, with its own trolleys.
Once the item is scanned, its put in a black back as if contraband. Even seeing it is offensive to the malay-muslims.
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AureBesh123
·10 min. ago
Has the full on Sharia mode been implemented? Have you guys started stoning gays already? And what do young Bruneians think of it?
Seems like your sultan's idea of post oil plan is to double down on Arabisation
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·5 min. ago
Officially yes, but the country received such a huge backlash from it internationally with celebs like george clooney launching a boycott of Bruneian investments and properties overseas that the Sultan (also PM - lol and u guys think one party PAP and Lee dynasty is bad) came out and said that the laws are defacto unused, and the whole thing has been brushed aside.
Sharia law is defunct not in use. We use civil law instead. Recently the Religious minister's son & daughter in law have been prosecuted and now sit in jail for a 15 million sgd/bnd embezzlement , essentially stealing public funds, to live the high like in UK with fast cars and super homes.
We are doubling down on Oil and Gas instead, with everyones BFF China recently taking an island and building a refinery there. The islam thing was deeply unpopular and we have took a step away from it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/svyqt9/the_malays_muslim_struggle/
Had this Malay “religious” dude site next to me and he started asking me if I knew religion. Before I could say anything, a Malay abang (bro) stopped him and told him not to bother me in Bahasa.
Next thing you know, this religious dude starts blasting abang with his diatribe about how he’s going against Islam by denying him the chance to preach, the world is full of Iblis and Syaitan (demons and the devil) etc etc. This went on for a full 5 minutes and even continued after abang picked up and left.
The least I could do was thank abang for speaking out on my behalf but man was his day ruined by this religious bro. If you’re reading this, thank you again, I never got your name.
I’m wondering, if this is a quiet struggle that moderate Malays face; being silenced by your own?
https://www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/svyqt9/the_malays_muslim_struggle/
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syanda
·2 hr. ago
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A lotta religions in Singapore experience the same, but honestly? Muslims have it the hardest because Islam is tied so deeply into the Malay identity.
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helzinki
·1 hr. ago
is a rat bastard.
At least us muslims are not in Malaysia where its a big game of spiderman pointing at spiderman accusing each other of not being muslim enough. Muslims here, aside for the very small vocal few, mind their own business.
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_IsNull
·1 hr. ago
r/malaysia got a lot of reported cases about that.
https://www.malaymail.com/news/mala...ang-islamic-councils-show-proof-she-c/2041967
also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wong_Ah_Kiu
there was a case when a Malay girl was adopted by a Buddhist family pre-independent, she was raised Buddhist, they refused to change her religion in IC, even the head of the Negeri Sembilan Religious Affairs Department came to her house and fought to collect her dead body when she died, IIRC the high court put a stop to this, however, they insisted forcefully to take her body, and appealed to the court which got thrown out. The family finally managed to bury her in Buddhist rite.
33Nonetheless, many muslims in Malaysia were angered, and claim that Malaysia is becoming less islamic because they failed to bury her body the muslim way.
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thisis4investing
·14 min. ago
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jacksh2t
·7 min. ago
I think for this, Islam and Catholic children are already baptised as a baby so it’s impossible for them to be raised as a Buddhist. Their children do not choose their religion. It is chosen for them.
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redryder74
·40 min. ago
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Story related to me by a Chinese Malaysian. He experienced in a supermarket checkout where the Malay cashier refused to even touch a can of pork luncheon meat.
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sec5
·18 min. ago
Here in Brunei, we cant even put that can of luncheon meat in the same trolley or on the same checkout counter. It has its own checkout counter, with its own trolleys.
Once the item is scanned, its put in a black back as if contraband. Even seeing it is offensive to the malay-muslims.
AMA.
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AureBesh123
·10 min. ago
Has the full on Sharia mode been implemented? Have you guys started stoning gays already? And what do young Bruneians think of it?
Seems like your sultan's idea of post oil plan is to double down on Arabisation
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sec5
·5 min. ago
Officially yes, but the country received such a huge backlash from it internationally with celebs like george clooney launching a boycott of Bruneian investments and properties overseas that the Sultan (also PM - lol and u guys think one party PAP and Lee dynasty is bad) came out and said that the laws are defacto unused, and the whole thing has been brushed aside.
Sharia law is defunct not in use. We use civil law instead. Recently the Religious minister's son & daughter in law have been prosecuted and now sit in jail for a 15 million sgd/bnd embezzlement , essentially stealing public funds, to live the high like in UK with fast cars and super homes.
We are doubling down on Oil and Gas instead, with everyones BFF China recently taking an island and building a refinery there. The islam thing was deeply unpopular and we have took a step away from it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/svyqt9/the_malays_muslim_struggle/