SG Indian Bro Wishes No More Indian FTrash!

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[h=2]Increase friction between local Indian S’poreans vs FT Indians[/h]

March 23rd, 2013 |

Author: Contributions

Foreign talents from India are usually non-Tamil speaking Indians. Their arrivals, thanks to the government liberal policy, clearly upset and change the language composition of local Indians who are predominantly Tamils. This causes an irreversible divide between the Indian nationals and the local Indians.

Since all of them are well-paid and holding executive positions, they do not mix with the locals or learn to speak Tamil. They will continue to speak Hindi or other non-Tamil language.

While the government is pumping money and forming groups to integrate them, they are happily forming enclaves in East Coast area, Sengkang, Yishun and Choa Chu Kang. They have everything they want in Singapore. Why must they integrate with the locals?

They have their own radio channel to listen to Bollywood songs. Tabla is their own newspaper (under the guise of Tamil Murasu). Starhub and Singtel provide more channels in Hindi than Tamil. They have own networking sites. They even have their own Schools in Singapore to provide them a place to conduct lessons in their own languages. They can take the subject up to “O” level.

Government provides subsidy using tax payer money for this cause. Place Hindi signage along Tamil during Deepavali light-up. Use their own version and spell Deepavali as Diwali. Mediacorp promotes Bollywood on their programmes and Vasantham also has Bollywood programmes. Their have Bollywood on demand in Starhub but no such thing for our local Indians.

The government systematically did this to reduce the predominance of Tamils in this country. Less Tamils means less bargaining power and more fragmentation of the already diverse group of Indians. Divide and sub-divide to make Tamils less significant. No Tamil Signage at the airports. Gross violation of the constitution.

The Indian MPs who cannot even speak Tamil but can speak Mandarin get voted on Indian ticket (in GRC). Did not make any attempt to learn or speak Tamil. Janil and Hri Kumar cannot speak Tamil. So this country is fertile for foreign Indians to reap the fruits. The work done by local Indians 100 years ago to built this country.

The Indian Ministers and MPs have disappointed the local Indians. No Tamil signage in places of interest along the roads and highway. Japanese have theirs. The government still has “Hangover” of the Japanese invasion. Shame on all the Indian MPs and Ministers.

Mediacorp is the number one culprit in promoting non-Tamil speaking Indians. Their crews are all mostly North Indians. MDA should monitor their programming. No news on Chennai or Tamil Nadu. If the government is sincere in bringing in foreign talents, then it should be Tamils from UK, USA, Canada, SriLanka and Malaysia. No excuse. There are 76 million Tamils in all the corners of the globe.

No more non-Tamil speaking Indian talents, PRs or new citizens in this country. This is my wish.
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Local Tamil Speaking Indian
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Editor’s note: The writer may be a bit “extreme” but he does make certain valid points.
First of all, just want to say that the writer is wrong on the point that Singapore is built by Indians of Tamil descent only. At the time of independence, there were certainly many non-Tamil speaking Singaporean Indians too. I remember as a kid, I used to play with my neighbour, who is Malayalam. I remember he studied Tamil for his second language. Then I also have a friend of Bengali descent. He studied Malay instead. And indeed, many non-Tamil Singaporean Indians took Malay for second language in my time cause I supposed it’s a lot easier to learn than Tamil or Mandarin. But I think it helps in integration a lot cause those who learned Malay could communicate well with the Ah Pek, Ah Mah, Old Indian uncles/aunties who couldn’t speak English.

As it is, due to pressure from the new Indian immigrants, MOE now allows them to take their own Indian language outside of our 4 official languages as their second language mother tongue. MOE website:

http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/admissions/returning-singaporeans/mother-tongue-policy/
Our Mother Tongue Language (MTL) policy requires all students who are Singaporeans or Singapore Permanent Residents to study their respective official MTL: Chinese, Malay and Tamil. A non-Tamil Indian may choose to offer as his/her MTL: (a) Tamil, or (b) a non-Tamil Indian Language such as Bengali, Gujarati, Hindi, Punjabi or Urdu.
Students will offer their respective MTLs at the Primary School Leaving Examination (PSLE) and the GCE ‘N’, ‘O’ and ‘A’ level examinations.
(in the above, notice that MOE deliberately did not want to present it as: “A non-Tamil Indian may choose to offer as his/her MTL: Tamil, Bengali, Gujarati, Hindi, Punjabi or Urdu.” – although semantically, the 2 sentences are the same…)
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This is a potential problem for Singapore in future. As it is, India now has something like 22 official languages: 1.Assamese, 2.Bengali, 3.Bodo, 4.Dogri, 5.Gujarati, 6.Hindi, 7.Kannada, 8.Kashmiri, 9.Konkani, 10.Maithili, 11.Malayalam, 12.Santali, 13.Marathi, 14.Nepali, 15.Oriya, 16.Punjabi, 17.Sanskrit, 18.Santhali, 19.Sindhi, 20.Tamil, 21.Telugu and 22. Urdu.
Are we also going to expand our MTL for these new Indian immigrants as more enter Singapore? What about Tagalog, Viet, Burmese etc languages?
And also, at the rate things are going, will our constitution be changed in future?

Use of languages in Parliament
53. Until the Legislature otherwise provides, all debates and discussions in Parliament shall be conducted in Malay, English, Mandarin or Tamil.
Citizenship by registration
123.—(1) Subject to the provisions of this Constitution, any person resident in Singapore of or over the age of 21 years may, on application being made therefor in the prescribed form, be registered as a citizen of Singapore if he satisfies the Government that he —
(e) has an elementary knowledge of one of the following languages, namely, Malay, English, Mandarin and Tamil: Provided that the Government may exempt an applicant who has attained the age of 45 years or who is deaf or dumb from compliance with this paragraph.
Official languages
153A.—(1) Malay, Mandarin, Tamil and English shall be the 4 official languages in Singapore.
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Think what will happen in this scenario. A new citizen studied Hindi as MTL for his ‘O’ and ‘A’ level. He joined politics later. He felt that he joined politics because he wanted to represent the interests of the Hindi Indians living in, say, East Coast in Singapore. And he thought it would be a good idea to speak Hindi in Parliament so as to get better support from his electorate. But since the constitution says Hindi cannot be spoken in Parliament, he lobbied for change to the constitution. How would the rest of the Singaporeans react? Would this be a flash point in Singapore in the future?
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[eErotica69]

After reading this, we got to thank 秦始皇 for 统一文字

 

[Don Muthuswamy]

After reading this, we got to thank 秦始皇 for 统一文字

Ah neh demselves r not united bcos of caste system & religion. So how 2 unite dem???

 

[50000]

Ah neh demselves r not united bcos of caste system & religion. So how 2 unite dem???

that's why they are welcomed with open arms now......take in 1m will behave disunited as 100 groups therefore will not be a political threat.....

 

[andyfisher]

Its logical isnt it?
do you see shit mixing together? you always flush away shit before shitting. where got accumulate and accumulate shit.

 

[gatehousethetinkertailor]

Local Tamils seem to believe that they represent "Indian" identity in SE Asia and had dominated "Indian" associations - now they feel threathened and excluded? What about the other minority "Indians" (think of the Bayi Susus, Bayi Jaga etc) who were made to pay to Sinda even when they do not have anything in common with these Tamils - neither language, food or culture.

So suddenly it occurred to them that India is a sub-continet that is bigger than Tamil Nadu and they are unhappy? That Hinduisim is bigger than the Tamil variant? How dah dei! Tamils in India can also speak Hindi and can also watch Bollywood films. Is it really about loss of identity or that their control over defining "Indian" representation is being severely diluted?

 

[andyfisher]

good point bro gatehousethetinkertailor
You soldier spy ah? your nick so stylo

But when have you seen shits working together?

In india, even within a small village, got problems due to caste, religion, status, etc and dont know what else.

Local Tamils seem to believe that they represent "Indian" identity in SE Asia and had dominated "Indian" associations - now they feel threathened and excluded? What about the other minority "Indians" (think of the Bayi Susus, Bayi Jaga etc) who were made to pay to Sinda even when they do not have anything in common with these Tamils - neither language, food or culture.

So suddenly it occurred to them that India is a sub-continet that is bigger than Tamil Nadu and they are unhappy? That Hinduisim is bigger than the Tamil variant? How dah dei! Tamils in India can also speak Hindi and can also watch Bollywood films. Is it really about loss of identity or that their control over defining "Indian" representation is being severely diluted?

 

[Raiders]

The only thing I cannot stand about these FT Indian fucktards is their children. You'll hear either their screaming voice or loud wailing first before spotting them.

 

[gatehousethetinkertailor]

The only thing I cannot stand about these FT Indian fucktards is their children. You'll hear either their screaming voice or loud wailing first before spotting them.

Anyone who has any grandiose illusions about the world's biggest democracy should experience this:

Late last year, two young men decided to live a month of their lives on the income of an average poor Indian. One of them, Tushar, the son of a police officer in Haryana, studied at the University of Pennsylvania and worked for three years as an investment banker in the US and Singapore. The other, Matt, migrated as a teenager to the States with his parents, and studied in MIT. Both decided at different points to return to India, joined the UID Project in Bengaluru, came to share a flat, and became close friends.

The idea suddenly struck them one day. Both had returned to India in the vague hope that they could be of use to their country. But they knew the people of this land so little. Tushar suggested one evening — “Let us try to understand an ‘average Indian', by living on an ‘average income'.” His friend Matt was immediately captured by the idea. They began a journey which would change them forever.

To begin with, what was the average income of an Indian? They calculated that India's Mean National Income was Rs. 4,500 a month, or Rs. 150 a day. Globally people spend about a third of their incomes on rent. Excluding rent, they decided to spend Rs. 100 each a day. They realised that this did not make them poor, only average. Seventy-five per cent Indians live on less than this average.

The young men moved into the tiny apartment of their domestic help, much to her bemusement. What changed for them was that they spent a large part of their day planning and organising their food. Eating out was out of the question; even dhabas were too expensive. Milk and yoghurt were expensive and therefore used sparingly, meat was out of bounds, as were processed food like bread. No ghee or butter, only a little refined oil. Both are passionate cooks with healthy appetites. They found soy nuggets a wonder food — affordable and high on proteins, and worked on many recipes. Parle G biscuits again were cheap: 25 paise for 27 calories! They innovated a dessert of fried banana on biscuits. It was their treat each day.

Restricted life

Living on Rs.100 made the circle of their life much smaller. They found that they could not afford to travel by bus more than five km in a day. If they needed to go further, they could only walk. They could afford electricity only five or six hours a day, therefore sparingly used lights and fans. They needed also to charge their mobiles and computers. One Lifebuoy soap cut into two. They passed by shops, gazing at things they could not buy. They could not afford the movies, and hoped they would not fall ill.

However, the bigger challenge remained. Could they live on Rs. 32, the official poverty line, which had become controversial after India's Planning Commission informed the Supreme Court that this was the poverty line for cities (for villages it was even lower, at Rs. 26 per person per day)?

Harrowing experience

For this, they decided to go to Matt's ancestral village Karucachal in Kerala, and live on Rs. 26. They ate parboiled rice, a tuber and banana and drank black tea: a balanced diet was impossible on the Rs. 18 a day which their briefly adopted ‘poverty' permitted. They found themselves thinking of food the whole day. They walked long distances, and saved money even on soap to wash their clothes. They could not afford communication, by mobile and internet. It would have been a disaster if they fell ill. For the two 26-year-olds, the experience of ‘official poverty' was harrowing.

Yet, when their experiment ended with Deepavali, they wrote to their friends: “Wish we could tell you that we are happy to have our ‘normal' lives back. Wish we could say that our sumptuous celebratory feast two nights ago was as satisfying as we had been hoping for throughout our experiment. It probably was one of the best meals we've ever had, packed with massive amounts of love from our hosts. However, each bite was a sad reminder of the harsh reality that there are 400 million people in our country for whom such a meal will remain a dream for quite some time. That we can move on to our comfortable life, but they remain in the battlefield of survival — a life of tough choices and tall constraints. A life where freedom means little and hunger is plenty...

Plenty of questions

It disturbs us to spend money on most of the things that we now consider excesses. Do we really need that hair product or that branded cologne? Is dining out at expensive restaurants necessary for a happy weekend? At a larger level, do we deserve all the riches we have around us? Is it just plain luck that we were born into circumstances that allowed us to build a life of comfort? What makes the other half any less deserving of many of these material possessions, (which many of us consider essential) or, more importantly, tools for self-development (education) or self-preservation (healthcare)?

We don't know the answers to these questions. But we do know the feeling of guilt that is with us now. Guilt that is compounded by the love and generosity we got from people who live on the other side, despite their tough lives. We may have treated them as strangers all our lives, but they surely didn't treat us as that way...”

So what did these two friends learn from their brief encounter with poverty? That hunger can make you angry. That a food law which guarantees adequate nutrition to all is essential. That poverty does not allow you to realise even modest dreams. And above all — in Matt's words — that empathy is essential for democracy.

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/col...oot-the-other-side-of-life/article2882340.ece


I really cannot understand why Singkies are afraid to tell these ill-mannered idiots off for their misbehaving and loud screaming kids in tow - all this talk about reclaiming Singapore but still this inherent hesitancy to speak up - there is of course a way these things can be done without sounding like a thug but nobody is going to take the other's idiots side especially if the angst is valid.

 

[AhGuan]

I support our local kelings.

Those hindi-speaking pundeks can fuck off from Singapore.

 

[laksaboy]

Those Hindi-speaking folks don't belong here anyway. We need a broad campaign of social ostracization towards them.

All the Patel, Gupta, Sanjay, Bhatia, Chowdary, Sharma, Chopra etc... please behave or fuck off.