• IP addresses are NOT logged in this forum so there's no point asking. Please note that this forum is full of homophobes, racists, lunatics, schizophrenics & absolute nut jobs with a smattering of geniuses, Chinese chauvinists, Moderate Muslims and last but not least a couple of "know-it-alls" constantly sprouting their dubious wisdom. If you believe that content generated by unsavory characters might cause you offense PLEASE LEAVE NOW! Sammyboy Admin and Staff are not responsible for your hurt feelings should you choose to read any of the content here.

    The OTHER forum is HERE so please stop asking.

Save money now! SG property will crash 2013/14 say analysts


Insider info? You mean banks financial reports are insider info? Do you know what you are talking about?

http://www.uobgroup.com/assets/pdfs/investor/financial/2011/gp_financial_1q_2011.pdf
[
I think is better that you move to other threads and not furthur embarrass yourself here!!


:D:D:D

I've had a chance to read one of the reports.

Ah yah, you disappoint me, I thought you were somene working in the banking industry with inside info. The files you provided are just a garden variety financial report from banks.

Where in the report does it disprove my claim that Sporeans are having problems meeting the mortgage commitments:confused:

My claim is that Sporeans are having problems paying their mortgages and NOT that they are defaulting on their loans. :confused:

Die, die of course Sporeans have to struggle to pay for their mortgage. They probably beg, borrow from relatives & friends.:(

Where else are they going to stay? In the East Coast:confused: In the parks of Spore:confused: Most of us have read what happened to those unlucky fellows living in the East Coast tent city.

I bet many who can't meet their mortgage obligations will decide to sell at a lose rather than have the bank foreclose because it would be shameful & a financial blackmark on their record.

As to why I am so critical about the PAP policies, Abraham Lincoln said it best:

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
 
The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 10 characters.
 
Should I be worried if both my houses are fully paid and I am renting out and getting passive income to add to my pension to maintain my lifestyle?

Should I sell my house and live in Batu Cave? The End is Near?
2009-03-20-end_of_dollar.png
 
....As to why I am so critical about the PAP policies, Abraham Lincoln said it best:
You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.

Lincoln's quote should also apply to the opposition parties. Unlike the PAP. they have no proven or any visible track record.
 
Lincoln's quote should also apply to the opposition parties. Unlike the PAP. they have no proven or any visible track record.

You're missing the important point:

The PAP is the one in power. They are the ones with a proven track record of squandering tax payers $$$ :eek:

The opposition has no track record but do you need one to ask the PAP questions about their policies in parliament:confused::confused:
 
property will not crash, may correct 10 to 15% in a year

there are a lot of chinese buyers paying in cash and are not affected by cooling measures - across the board from sentosa cove to telok kurau shoebox

indian buyers not so rich but here are still many of them buying up meyer road properties - go to singapore swimming club on weekends and it feels like bangalore
 
property will not crash, may correct 10 to 15% in a year

there are a lot of chinese buyers paying in cash and are not affected by cooling measures - across the board from sentosa cove to telok kurau shoebox

indian buyers not so rich but here are still many of them buying up meyer road properties - go to singapore swimming club on weekends and it feels like bangalore


You are right, man. My friend says Singapore Swimming Club is 'The Sindhi Club.' :-)
 
properties prices will crash meh? my managers tell me that i should be buying more properties in Singapore. my tokyo apartments pricing is going down, i don't know why, so frustrating.
 
Lincoln's quote should also apply to the opposition parties. Unlike the PAP. they have no proven or any visible track record.

PAP was once an opposition party!:oIo::oIo::oIo:
Khong lan jiao wei! :oIo::oIo::oIo:
 
properties prices will crash meh? my managers tell me that i should be buying more properties in Singapore. my tokyo apartments pricing is going down, i don't know why, so frustrating.

Errr.... pls don't say i have no compassion hor... but i think i know why your Tokyo apartment prices going down...
 
S’pore property crash: When and how serious?
By Seah Chiang Nee | SingaporeScene – Mon, Jul 18, 2011

512afp_sgconstruction.jpg

Photo taken August 31, 2010 shows new highrise apartment (background) almost completed in Singapore. (AFP/Roslan …

By Seah Chiang Nee

This property-crazed city of five million seems hell-bent on disproving the old theory that what goes up must come down.

Despite warnings of a possible crash, land-squeezed Singaporeans and rich foreigners are still buying private (as well as resale public) homes at red hot prices.

Shrugging away a number of cooling measures, the property bull — which became active in 2005 — has continued to charge, albeit at a slower pace.

A recent prime condo traded at a new record high of S$5,842 psf. Prices had shot up another 17.6 percent in 2010, setting off alarm bells of a bubble building.

It is giving Minister for National Development Khaw Boon Wan nightmares. Last month he warned that the market could head for a possible collapse because of vastly increased supply.

Most analysts agree that a blow-up is coming but disagree on the intensity and timing. One said it could happen as early as 2013.

However, there doesn't seem to be any real fear. Singaporeans and foreigners, who made up 29 percent of buyers last year, are still opening their cheque books to developers.

"People have short memories. Tell them prices will fall, they will laugh. Remember the property crash of 1998? It only fully recovered after 12 years," reminded Clinton Lee.

"History would repeat itself. It happened in the 1990s and would happen again," said a blogger.

Fundamentals believed to be supporting high prices

The fundamentals — low money costs and high immigration — however, continue to convince many Singaporeans and foreigners that property still makes good investment. For simplicity, this article excludes public properties.

There are two reasons for this traditional craze. Firstly, land in Singapore is scarce and finite.

Secondly, it is considered a good investment because, while supply is limited, demand will grow as long as there is economic growth and stability.

Some 20 years ago, the population was three million; it is now five million, up 40 percent. Not surprisingly, property values more than followed.

(The private property price index has jumped from 33.3 points in 1980 to 202.8 points in 2010)

In most other countries, people generally buy a home for long-term residency, and they sell only if they get a job in a distant place.

But a large majority of Singaporeans who can afford it often sell their home for another "to take profit" — or to upgrade or downgrade.

This is not new, but has in recent years been joined by a plethora of foreigners, including mainland Chinese, Indonesians, Malaysians and Indians.

A survey some years back found that 53 percent of Singaporeans had moved homes at least once in the previous 10 years. Reasons: upgrading, downgrading or speculation.

Several thousands migrated abroad.

Owners plan to 'flip' homes or rent them out

The value of private homes gave investors a real return of 8.6 percent a year between 2005 and 2010.

The attitudes and lifestyles mean that residential homes are seldom permanent for the new generation. If they are not sold off, they are rented out to foreigners.
The spiralling market has created a traditional speculative fervour among many owners. Most do not hesitate to sell their homes for a profit and buy another on downturns.

Tens of thousands of ordinary Singaporeans — from secretaries to doctors — hope to "flip" homes the way they do shares.

Like stocks, they sometimes lose, and lose big, as when the balloon burst in 1996. Values dropped by 38 percent, wiping out billions of dollars in citizens' assets.

The phenomenon had occurred elsewhere in developed cities like Tokyo, Hong Kong, Paris and Brussels, some of which had crashed even more dramatically.
There are also many short-term bankrupts who borrowed and bought high before a downturn.

One analyst observed that people who bought private properties in 1996 were actually getting a negative real return of 0.6 percent as of the end of last year.

Rising beyond the reach of ordinary folk

The rocketing prices have moved private property ownership out of reach of most fresh graduates setting out in life. If they are lucky, they may get a government flat.

In some cases, they are an obstacle to young couples getting married or raising children.

Data shows that from 1990 to 2008, private home prices tripled, while household incomes only doubled.

This implied that private homes were significantly less affordable now than 20 years ago, since the rise in home prices had outstripped income growth by 50%.
At the moment, investors are smiling. Property websites have had more than their fair share of optimism recently.

A condominium bought for S$600,000 at the beginning of 2010 was reportedly sold at a profit of S$100,000 within 12 months.

Some home-seekers are staying by the sideline, preferring to wait.

Scenario of a property crash

In a full blown world financial crisis impacting Singapore, money could leave the country, property buyers disappear and the stock market crash.

There could be tens of thousands of empty condos looking for foreign tenants, and the consequences would reverberate throughout the economy, especially in stocks, banks, cars, jobs and higher bankruptcies.

Many passive homeowners may pay a price, too. Boom or bust, it will not have a lasting effect on people's lives — which will recover, but for some, only after years.

They will always evolve around property, public or privately-built.

One factor will not change, however: Private homes will be harder for the young generation to own.

Meanwhile, the buying and selling continue, with prices remaining high pending any further government action.

Property researcher Getty Goh asked in a crucial headline question: "Property 2013. Buyers versus sellers: Who will blink first?"
 
Back
Top