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There will be a big disappointment if anyone hope happy developments like what happened in Chile.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/wait-for-nz-mine-rescue-goes-on-20101122-182ro.html

Wait for NZ mine rescue goes on

November 22, 2010 - 2:49AM

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Half-hourly monitoring of gases in New Zealand's Pike River mine, where 29 men including two Australians remain trapped, are continuing, but the wait to rescue them goes on.

Rescuers are ready and waiting to enter the West Coast mine but will not do so until gas readings show consistently safe levels of carbon monoxide, methane and ethane.

Police Response Co-ordinator Superintendent Kelvin Powell said on Monday that monitoring of toxic gas levels in the mine continued overnight.
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"This monitoring will allow first responders the earliest opportunity possible to judge when it is safe enough to allow teams to enter the mine and bring the men out," he said.

"This operation is a fine balancing act. We know families and friends are anxious to hear news of their loved ones and all response personnel are totally focused on bringing the men home."

Tasman District police area commander Superintendent Gary Knowles told reporters on Sunday there was no "quick fix".

"We're into day two. We have no idea how long this will take but we are still focused on bringing these guys out," he said.

"This still remains a rescue operation.

"We're still looking at going underground where possible to bring these guys out and we are still dependent ... on a reduction on the levels of gases in those chambers.

"I'm not prepared ... to have people go underground until we're 100 per cent sure it's safe."

Investigators fear there may be an underground fire and are urgently trying to establish how hot it is in the mine.

New Zealand Mines rescue general manager Trevor Watts said gas samples are showing "there may be something else occurring", but information is limited.

"The analysis at the moment is trying to determine if there is a fire in the mine at the moment," he said.

Watts acknowledged they have "no idea" what temperature it is down there -- only that it's likely to be hotter than before the explosion, as "any event that's involved a methane explosion, we know that heat's produced".

"So, yes, the temperature there will certainly be hotter. To what extent, we don't know."

Pike River chief executive Peter Whittall said families have been wanting to know what conditions are like for the miners.

"I've been trying to do my best to give you information as I would imagine it is and as my own background and training would say it is," he said.

"However, I have reiterated on a number of occasions, I just don't know.

"If conditions underground are such that we are having heating, which they appear to be ... then obviously that's a very different condition to what would be experienced in a fresh air area if a miner was holed up anywhere else."

Watts said rescuers are waiting to rescue their "brothers" underground -- including one of their own mine rescue team members.

However, safety is paramount, as rescuers would be the direct path if an explosion occurred.

The logistics of staging a rescue are "vast", involving a 2.5km walk to the first intersection on uphill, uneven terrain carrying 5-10kg of breathing equipment.

"So, this is not an easy 'we can just throw the face masks on people and head into the mine in a hurry' because it's just not that simple."

"We have got to be certain that we are not going to compromise the safety of the miners we are trying to rescue and the rescue teams we will deploy underground."

There are six five-men rescue teams available, comprising mainly local people, supported by Huntly mine rescuers.

A seven-man team from New South Wales is also waiting in Christchurch if needed, and two Australian mines rescue officials are helping with planning.

Their names of the 29 men have not been officially released but could be this morning, depending on the agreement of families.
 
As expected the Kiwi dare not enter the mine until now. Ang Moh won't die for their friends unlike PRC Chinese.

They as if only have got one single hopeless robot. Must now buy robot last min when one don't work!

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/11/23/3073725.htm?site=sydney

Rescue robot breaks down in NZ mine

Updated November 23, 2010 09:24:00
Rescue authorities are trying to source a replacement robot from the US or Western Australia.

Rescue authorities are trying to source a replacement robot from the US or Western Australia. (AFP: NZ Defence Force, file photo)

* Audio: Hope fading for trapped miners in NZ (AM)
* Related Story: Rescuers preparing for mine deaths
* Related Story: Queensland miners confirmed trapped in NZ

Efforts to rescue 29 men trapped in a New Zealand coal mine received a setback this morning when a remote-operated robot broke down shortly after being sent into the tunnel.

In a blow to rescue hopes, Grey District mayor Tony Kokshoorn said the robot had short-circuited shortly after entering the Pike River mine.

"We've had a kick in the guts. The robot went in the tunnel, it got water in it and short-circuited. It's history," he said after emerging from a meeting with rescue coordinators.

Police Superintendent Gary Knowles said the robot would no longer be used, but rescue authorities were trying to source a replacement from the United States or Western Australia.

"This is a very serious situation and the longer it goes on, hopes fade. We have to be realistic," he said.

"We are not able to go underground until the environment is safe.

"As soon as we are able to deploy assets from the US or Australia [we will be able to go ahead]."

The 29 men, including two Australians, have been missing since an underground explosion at the Pike River mine, near Greymouth on the South Island, on Friday.

The two Australians men are William Joynson, 49, and Joshua Ufer, 25, both from Queensland.

Drilling

Supt Knowles said drilling of a bore hole to reach the mine shaft continued overnight.

Pike River CEO Peter Whittall said the bore hole was at 142 metres this morning.

He said crews had to stop and change drill bits overnight after running into very hard rock.

But he said drilling had since recommenced and it was estimated it would take another five hours before the hole was completed.

The head of NZ Mines Rescue, Trevor Watts, said crews were enduring "heart-wrenching" frustration at not being able to deploy underground.

"The conditions that our rescue personnel are going to face are potentially going to be hostile," he added.

Families frustrated

Laurie Drew, the father of one of the miners, says the lack of information is making life difficult for the families of the trapped men.

"Everybody's frustrated, everybody's upset," he said.

"They're all hurting as much as I do. I had my moments. I can keep it together but deep down it's still heart's bleeding like everybody else.

"We've got faith that they're going to come out safe but it's just how long it's going to take to find out for sure what's going on down there."
 
This became news today but I knew it since day 1, when I posted here.:)

http://www.todayonline.com/World/EDC101125-0000107/All-29-trapped-miners-believed-dead

All 29 trapped miners believed dead

05:55 AM Nov 25, 2010
GREYMOUTH - A second massive explosion at a New Zealand coal mine erased all hope of rescuing 29 miners trapped underground in a devastating blow that Prime Minister John Key described as a national tragedy.

For five days since the initial blast at the Pike River Coal mine, families and friends have been keeping a vigil for the men but police said it was unlikely any of them survived the second explosion.

"Today all New Zealanders grieve for these men. We are a nation in mourning," Mr Key said in an address to the nation in which he announced an inquiry would be held into the disaster.

"New Zealand is a small country ... where we are our brothers' keepers. To lose so many brothers at once strikes an agonising blow."

He said flags would fly at half-staff today and Parliament would adjourn its session in respect for the dead men.

Pike River Coal chief executive Peter Whittall said rescue teams were not doing anything that could have set off the second explosion and that conditions inside the mine were such it could have happened at any time.

There had been no contact with the men since last Friday when methane gas caused a massive explosion in the mountain on New Zealand's South Island.

Rescue attempts were constantly hampered by gases from the first blast and evidence of a fire underground.

A 162-m-long bore hole from the surface took more than twice as long to complete as first estimated because of hard rock, while a robot that entered the mine stalled. Yesterday, the bore did break through, giving rescuers the ability to sample air quality.

A few hours later, as a 16-man rescue team prepared to possibly enter the mine, a second massive explosion occurred.

Family members who gathered for a regular daily briefing on the rescue operation's progress were instead told of the second blast and that no one could survive.

Mr Whittal said he began by telling them a team had been getting ready to go underground. Some people - thinking a rescue was about to start - broke into applause before he could finish telling them about the latest blast.

"I had to wait till they stopped clapping to tell them ... that the second explosion occurred," he said.

Mr Tony Kokshoorn, the Mayor of Greymouth town near the mine, who was at the meeting, said some of the relatives collapsed. Others shouted at police in anger.

"It is our darkest day," Mr Kokshoorn told reporters later.

Distraught relatives of the dead miners were angry that rescuers had not immediately entered the mine on Friday to save their loved ones.

"If they do find that people were alive after that first blast, there is going to be a lot of problems," said Mr Laurie Drew, father of 21-year-old miner Zen.

No decision has been made on whether the mine would be sealed or what the next step would be, Mr Whittall said. Agencies

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