Sam Leong's band of brothers - PMD riders

[Leongsam]

Well said..

British backpacker on e-scooter given four years’ jail for Western Australia crash death
British backpacker Alicia Kemp's face in a close-up from social media.
British backpacker Alicia Kemp, who crashed an e-scooter into a bystander, causing him fatal brain bleeding. Photograph: Tik Tok
Court heard Alicia Kemp, 25, from Redditch, Worcestershire was over the blood alcohol limit when she drove into Thanh Phan, 51, in Perth

A British backpacker has been sentenced to four years in prison after a fatal collision with a father-of-two while riding an electric scooter in Australia.

Alicia Kemp, 25, from Redditch, Worcestershire, appeared at Perth district court in Western Australia on Friday where she was sentenced after pleading guilty to dangerous driving causing death while under the influence of alcohol.

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In the whole of australia how many pedestrians have been killed by cars in recent years and compare the figure with the number of pedestrians killed by escooters.

Across Australia, pedestrian fatalities on roads (almost entirely from collisions with motor vehicles such as cars, trucks, and buses) have been rising in recent years.

• In 2024 (calendar year), there were 167 pedestrian deaths, according to official data from the Bureau of Infrastructure and Transport Research Economics (BITRE).
• For the 12 months ending July 2025, this rose to 205 pedestrian deaths, reflecting a continuing upward trend.

These figures represent deaths overwhelmingly caused by motor vehicles, as road fatality statistics classify pedestrians struck by cars/trucks.In comparison, pedestrians killed by e-scooters remain extremely rare.

• From 2020 to mid-2025, comprehensive reviews (including a University of Melbourne study tracking ~37 e-scooter-related fatalities nationwide) show these deaths almost exclusively involved the riders themselves (e.g., falls or collisions with vehicles), not pedestrians struck by them.
• The only confirmed case in recent years is one pedestrian death in Perth, Western Australia, in May 2025 (Thanh Phan, struck by a rented e-scooter rider).
• Advocacy groups and media corrections have noted that earlier reports mistakenly attributed rider deaths to pedestrian impacts; no widespread pattern exists.

Sources: BITRE road safety statistics (via Guardian, ABC, AAA reports); University of Melbourne e-scooter fatality study; national media coverage of the Perth incident.In summary, hundreds of pedestrians are killed annually by motor vehicles in Australia, versus at most 1 recorded case involving an e-scooter in the past five years.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

In the whole of australia how many pedestrians have been killed by cars in recent years and compare the figure with the number of pedestrians killed by escooters.

Across Australia, pedestrian fatalities on roads (almost entirely from collisions with motor vehicles such as cars, trucks, and buses) have been rising in recent years.

• In 2024 (calendar year), there were 167 pedestrian deaths, according to official data from the Bureau of Infrastructure and Transport Research Economics (BITRE).
• For the 12 months ending July 2025, this rose to 205 pedestrian deaths, reflecting a continuing upward trend.

These figures represent deaths overwhelmingly caused by motor vehicles, as road fatality statistics classify pedestrians struck by cars/trucks.In comparison, pedestrians killed by e-scooters remain extremely rare.

• From 2020 to mid-2025, comprehensive reviews (including a University of Melbourne study tracking ~37 e-scooter-related fatalities nationwide) show these deaths almost exclusively involved the riders themselves (e.g., falls or collisions with vehicles), not pedestrians struck by them.
• The only confirmed case in recent years is one pedestrian death in Perth, Western Australia, in May 2025 (Thanh Phan, struck by a rented e-scooter rider).
• Advocacy groups and media corrections have noted that earlier reports mistakenly attributed rider deaths to pedestrian impacts; no widespread pattern exists.

Sources: BITRE road safety statistics (via Guardian, ABC, AAA reports); University of Melbourne e-scooter fatality study; national media coverage of the Perth incident.In summary, hundreds of pedestrians are killed annually by motor vehicles in Australia, versus at most 1 recorded case involving an e-scooter in the past five years.

So wat U are saying is it's perfectly fine for escooters and cyclists to kill or injury or maime ppl bcos the casualty rate is lower compared to cars? So no need for accountability?

 

[Leongsam]

So wat U are saying is it's perfectly fine for escooters and cyclists to kill or injury or maime ppl bcos the casualty rate is lower compared to cars? So no need for accountability?

No what I am saying is that it is cars are the primary cause of death and destruction on the roads but being killed by a car appears to be far more acceptable and excusable whereas escooter users are demonised to the point where bans are being called on this mode of transport.

Why are bans not being imposed on car usage? The answer is obvious... all those in the anti scooter mob are car drivers who are oblivious to the fact that the mode of transport they are privileged to enjoy actually pose the greatest danger.

Just do a search and you'll find hundreds of news reports of drivers escaping with an extremely light sentence for literally committing homicide with a car.

E scooters, cyclists etc are NOT a major problem. They are just an easy target to blame. In the meantime, cars continue to kill more than a MILLION annually.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

No what I am saying is that it is cars are the primary cause of death and destruction on the roads but being killed by a car appears to be far more acceptable and excusable whereas escooter users are demonised to the point where bans are being called on this mode of transport.

Why are bans not being imposed on car usage? The answer is obvious... all those in the anti scooter mob are car drivers who are oblivious to the fact that the mode of transport they are privileged to enjoy actually pose the greatest danger.

Just do a search and you'll find hundreds of news reports of drivers escaping with an extremely light sentence for literally committing homicide with a car.

E scooters, cyclists etc are NOT a major problem. They are just an easy target to blame. In the meantime, cars continue to kill more than a MILLION annually.

Yes I agree...as such cars would be treated like cyclists....that will solve all the problems...equal treatment for all