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俄媒：北约准备向卡扎菲投降
2011年07月25日 09:15:54 来源： 新华国际 【字号 大小】【收藏】【打印】【关闭】 分享到新华微博
7月24日，在阿富汗潘杰希尔省，负责安全防务移交的阿富汗官员阿什拉夫·加尼·艾哈迈德扎伊（左二）和内政部长贝斯米拉·穆罕默迪（左一）出席移交仪式。北约驻阿富汗国际安全援助部队当日向阿富汗安全部队移交东部潘杰希尔省的安全防务。 新华社发（艾哈迈德·马苏德摄）
俄罗斯新闻园地网站7月24日文章 题：北约准备向卡扎菲投降 虽然北约的炸弹和导弹还在利比亚首都轰鸣，但布鲁塞尔似乎已经准备挂出白旗，并十分不情愿地承认，世界上最强大的军事联盟对卡扎菲发动的4个月的战争彻底失败。剩下的只是商量投降条件，以免这些条件太有损尊严。
上周发生了一件前不久还完全不可想象的事：伴随着轰炸的噪音，的黎波里官方代表同美国国务院官员在突尼斯举行了长达3个小时的会谈。不过，华盛顿称，这并非谈判的开始。目的只是向利比亚领导人的代表传达一个简单的观点，即卡扎菲应该下台。如果是这样的话，那美国国务院官员是用不着飞往突尼斯的。关于让卡扎菲下台的话，美国及其盟友已强调了4个月，北约对利比亚的军事行动也持续了同样长的时间。如果卡扎菲以前对西方的呼吁一直置之不理，那现在又为何要听从呢？尤其是在北约的飞机和军舰明显开始感到乏力之际？
对西方而言，在北非的军事行动所取得的结果是令人沮丧的。利比亚军方阵地上一切能被摧毁的东西都已被摧毁，包括坦克、装甲车、指挥哨所及通讯站。数千名利比亚人在西方“维和人士”的炸弹下丧生。北约国家却连一兵一卒都没有损失。从传统的军事学角度来看，结果堪称完美。从政治角度看确实彻底的失败。就连军事行动的推动者和参与者也承认这一点。前不久从五角大楼负责人岗位上卸任的盖茨表述得最为动人。他对自己的发现感到惊诧：“在史上最强大的军事联盟对军事薄弱、人口稀少的国家采取的军事行动过去11周后，许多盟友已开始感到弹药紧张，并又想美国提出弥补缺口的要求。”
盖茨口中的盟友是谁？其中包括英国。英国国防大臣利姆·福克斯前不久再同本国空军司令官会晤时说，利比亚行动何时结束，甚至连个大致预测也无法做出，他所领导多部门已无钱继续行动。他已意识到，频繁的空袭及舰只和直升机的活动加重了军队人员及技术装备的负担，而为牵线行动保驾护航的能力值得怀疑。 意大利也在退缩。据悉，罗马应为参与行动设立了时间框架——最晚不超过9月30日。如果在此之前不能获胜，意大利将退出战争，撤回临时交与北约支配的一艘航母。
法国也大大缩小了参与利比亚行动的规模。法国国防部长热拉尔·隆盖7月11日宣布，反对派与卡扎菲之间开始和平谈判的时候到了。
而利比亚领导人又是怎样的处境？俄科学院东方学研究所阿拉伯研究中心主任研究员阿列克谢·波采罗布相信：“卡扎菲不是政治僵尸，他仍掌握着控制国家的杠杆。”他认为，利比亚西部多数居民仍支持卡扎菲。不断有支持卡扎菲的群众游行，在对手完全占优的情况下，利比亚军队仍在继续抵抗，这都能证明这一点。波采罗布认为：“在宗教和区域运动存在强大竞争的背景下，西方的政策是不合理的。他们似乎没有意识到在直接靠近欧洲的地方出现一个新的索马里这种危险。”
鉴于这种对北约极其不利的现实，很显然，请求俄罗斯出面调停的时候到了。据消息人士透露，7月14日美国总统奥巴马在于俄总统梅德韦杰夫通电话时表示了这种请求。我们的外长拉夫罗夫被建议与代表的黎波里政府利比亚外长阿卜杜勒·阿提·奥贝迪寻求妥协。两人7月20日在莫斯科举行了会谈。
为什么恰好是俄罗斯充当外交调停人？因为希望结束冲突的其他多数国家都犯了不可避免的错误。在伊斯坦布尔举行的利比亚联络小组第四次会议上，30多个国家，包括美国，宣布卡扎菲政府是非法的，实际上已等于承认班加西是合法的。莫斯科拒绝这样做，但同事表示愿意同冲突双方举行谈判。如此一来，尽管没有参与武装冲突，俄却有机会在任何情况下都能成为胜利者之一。
Russian media: NATO is prepared to surrender to Gaddafi
July 25, 2011 09:15:54 Source: Xinhua International [font size] [Favorite] [Print] [Close] share to Xinhua microblogging
July 24, in Afghanistan, Panjshir province, Afghanistan, responsible for security and defense officials in the transfer of Ahmed Karzai, Ashraf Ghani (left) and Minister of the Interior 贝斯米拉穆 Han Modi (left) attended the handover ceremony. NATO's International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan Afghan security forces to transfer the same day the eastern province of Panjshir security and defense. Xinhua News Agency (Ahmad Sude She)
Russian news sites Corner July 24 article title: NATO is prepared to Qaddafi surrendered While NATO bombs and missiles still in the Libyan capital roar, but Brussels seems to have been ready to hang out the white flag, and very reluctantly admit that the world The most powerful military alliance of the Gaddafi launched four months of the war a total failure. The rest is just to discuss surrender terms, in order to avoid these conditions are too undignified.
Last week something completely unthinkable not long ago: With the bombing of the noise, the official representative of Tripoli with the U.S. State Department official in Tunis for three hours of talks. However, Washington said, this is not the start of negotiations. Purpose is to convey to the representatives of the Libyan leader a simple view that Gaddafi should step down. If so, then the U.S. State Department officials do not need to fly to Tunisia. Gaddafi to step down, then on to the United States and its allies have emphasized the four months, NATO's military action against Libya has continued the same length of time. If Gaddafi called on the West has been previously ignored, now why should listen to it? Especially in the NATO aircraft and warships began to feel weak significant occasion?
For the West, the military action in North Africa, the results obtained is frustrating. Libya's military positions on all the things that can be destroyed have been destroyed, including tanks, armored vehicles, command posts and communications stations. Thousands of Libyans in the Western "peace person" of the bombs killed. NATO countries are not even a single soldier there is no loss. From the traditional military science point of view, the result is perfect. From a political point of view is indeed a complete failure. Even the promoters of and participants in military operations but also to admit it. Not long ago, the Pentagon official positions from the retiring Bill Gates was the most touching expression. He was surprised his discovery: "In the history of the most powerful military alliance of the military is weak, sparsely populated country's military actions in the past 11 weeks, many allies have begun to feel nervous and ammunition, and want to bridge the gap of the requirements of the United States . "
Gates, who is an ally of the mouth? Including the United Kingdom. British Defense Minister Lim Fox recently met again with its air force commander, said the Libyan action will end, not even a general prediction can not be made, he has no money to continue to lead multi-sectoral action. He has realized that the frequent air raids and the activities of ships and helicopters, military personnel and increased the burden of technical equipment, and escort operations for the go-ability is questionable. Italy is also back. It is reported that Roma should be involved in action to set up a time frame - no later than September 30. If Prior can not win, Italy will withdraw from the war, with NATO to withdraw the temporary dominance of a cross-carrier.
France also greatly reduced the scale of operations in Libya. French Defense Minister heat Laer Long cover on July 11 announced that the opposition between the peace negotiations with Gaddafi's time to.
The Libyan leader and how is the situation? Russian Academy of Sciences Institute of Oriental Studies, director of the Arab Research Center researcher Alexei wave mining Rob believes: "Gaddafi is not a political zombie, he still holds control of the country's leverage." He believes that most residents still support the western Libya Caza Philippines. There have been mass demonstrations to support Gaddafi, the opponent completely dominant in the case of Libya, the army continued to resist, which can attest to this. Wave to adopt Rob said: "In the religious and regional movements exist in the context of strong competition, the West's policy is unreasonable, they did not seem to realize that in the direct proximity to European places the emergence of a new danger in Somalia."
Given this reality, NATO is extremely unfavorable, it is clear that Russia's mediation when requested to. According to sources, July 14, Barack Obama is Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said this telephone request. Our Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has been suggested on behalf of Tripoli with Libyan Foreign Minister Abdel Government Theo Brady to seek a compromise. July 20, two men held talks in Moscow.
Why exactly is Russia as diplomatic mediator? Want to end the conflict because most other countries have made the inevitable mistake. In Istanbul, the Libyan Liaison Group held its fourth meeting, more than 30 countries, including the U.S., Gaddafi announced that the government is illegal, in fact, tantamount to admitting that Benghazi is legal. Moscow refused to do so, but my colleagues expressed their willingness to negotiate with the parties to the conflict. Thus, although not involved in armed conflict, Russia had the opportunity in any case one can become a winner.
俄媒：北约准备向卡扎菲投降
2011年07月25日 09:15:54 来源： 新华国际 【字号 大小】【收藏】【打印】【关闭】 分享到新华微博
7月24日，在阿富汗潘杰希尔省，负责安全防务移交的阿富汗官员阿什拉夫·加尼·艾哈迈德扎伊（左二）和内政部长贝斯米拉·穆罕默迪（左一）出席移交仪式。北约驻阿富汗国际安全援助部队当日向阿富汗安全部队移交东部潘杰希尔省的安全防务。 新华社发（艾哈迈德·马苏德摄）
俄罗斯新闻园地网站7月24日文章 题：北约准备向卡扎菲投降 虽然北约的炸弹和导弹还在利比亚首都轰鸣，但布鲁塞尔似乎已经准备挂出白旗，并十分不情愿地承认，世界上最强大的军事联盟对卡扎菲发动的4个月的战争彻底失败。剩下的只是商量投降条件，以免这些条件太有损尊严。
上周发生了一件前不久还完全不可想象的事：伴随着轰炸的噪音，的黎波里官方代表同美国国务院官员在突尼斯举行了长达3个小时的会谈。不过，华盛顿称，这并非谈判的开始。目的只是向利比亚领导人的代表传达一个简单的观点，即卡扎菲应该下台。如果是这样的话，那美国国务院官员是用不着飞往突尼斯的。关于让卡扎菲下台的话，美国及其盟友已强调了4个月，北约对利比亚的军事行动也持续了同样长的时间。如果卡扎菲以前对西方的呼吁一直置之不理，那现在又为何要听从呢？尤其是在北约的飞机和军舰明显开始感到乏力之际？
对西方而言，在北非的军事行动所取得的结果是令人沮丧的。利比亚军方阵地上一切能被摧毁的东西都已被摧毁，包括坦克、装甲车、指挥哨所及通讯站。数千名利比亚人在西方“维和人士”的炸弹下丧生。北约国家却连一兵一卒都没有损失。从传统的军事学角度来看，结果堪称完美。从政治角度看确实彻底的失败。就连军事行动的推动者和参与者也承认这一点。前不久从五角大楼负责人岗位上卸任的盖茨表述得最为动人。他对自己的发现感到惊诧：“在史上最强大的军事联盟对军事薄弱、人口稀少的国家采取的军事行动过去11周后，许多盟友已开始感到弹药紧张，并又想美国提出弥补缺口的要求。”
盖茨口中的盟友是谁？其中包括英国。英国国防大臣利姆·福克斯前不久再同本国空军司令官会晤时说，利比亚行动何时结束，甚至连个大致预测也无法做出，他所领导多部门已无钱继续行动。他已意识到，频繁的空袭及舰只和直升机的活动加重了军队人员及技术装备的负担，而为牵线行动保驾护航的能力值得怀疑。 意大利也在退缩。据悉，罗马应为参与行动设立了时间框架——最晚不超过9月30日。如果在此之前不能获胜，意大利将退出战争，撤回临时交与北约支配的一艘航母。
法国也大大缩小了参与利比亚行动的规模。法国国防部长热拉尔·隆盖7月11日宣布，反对派与卡扎菲之间开始和平谈判的时候到了。
而利比亚领导人又是怎样的处境？俄科学院东方学研究所阿拉伯研究中心主任研究员阿列克谢·波采罗布相信：“卡扎菲不是政治僵尸，他仍掌握着控制国家的杠杆。”他认为，利比亚西部多数居民仍支持卡扎菲。不断有支持卡扎菲的群众游行，在对手完全占优的情况下，利比亚军队仍在继续抵抗，这都能证明这一点。波采罗布认为：“在宗教和区域运动存在强大竞争的背景下，西方的政策是不合理的。他们似乎没有意识到在直接靠近欧洲的地方出现一个新的索马里这种危险。”
鉴于这种对北约极其不利的现实，很显然，请求俄罗斯出面调停的时候到了。据消息人士透露，7月14日美国总统奥巴马在于俄总统梅德韦杰夫通电话时表示了这种请求。我们的外长拉夫罗夫被建议与代表的黎波里政府利比亚外长阿卜杜勒·阿提·奥贝迪寻求妥协。两人7月20日在莫斯科举行了会谈。
为什么恰好是俄罗斯充当外交调停人？因为希望结束冲突的其他多数国家都犯了不可避免的错误。在伊斯坦布尔举行的利比亚联络小组第四次会议上，30多个国家，包括美国，宣布卡扎菲政府是非法的，实际上已等于承认班加西是合法的。莫斯科拒绝这样做，但同事表示愿意同冲突双方举行谈判。如此一来，尽管没有参与武装冲突，俄却有机会在任何情况下都能成为胜利者之一。
Russian media: NATO is prepared to surrender to Gaddafi
July 25, 2011 09:15:54 Source: Xinhua International [font size] [Favorite] [Print] [Close] share to Xinhua microblogging
July 24, in Afghanistan, Panjshir province, Afghanistan, responsible for security and defense officials in the transfer of Ahmed Karzai, Ashraf Ghani (left) and Minister of the Interior 贝斯米拉穆 Han Modi (left) attended the handover ceremony. NATO's International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan Afghan security forces to transfer the same day the eastern province of Panjshir security and defense. Xinhua News Agency (Ahmad Sude She)
Russian news sites Corner July 24 article title: NATO is prepared to Qaddafi surrendered While NATO bombs and missiles still in the Libyan capital roar, but Brussels seems to have been ready to hang out the white flag, and very reluctantly admit that the world The most powerful military alliance of the Gaddafi launched four months of the war a total failure. The rest is just to discuss surrender terms, in order to avoid these conditions are too undignified.
Last week something completely unthinkable not long ago: With the bombing of the noise, the official representative of Tripoli with the U.S. State Department official in Tunis for three hours of talks. However, Washington said, this is not the start of negotiations. Purpose is to convey to the representatives of the Libyan leader a simple view that Gaddafi should step down. If so, then the U.S. State Department officials do not need to fly to Tunisia. Gaddafi to step down, then on to the United States and its allies have emphasized the four months, NATO's military action against Libya has continued the same length of time. If Gaddafi called on the West has been previously ignored, now why should listen to it? Especially in the NATO aircraft and warships began to feel weak significant occasion?
For the West, the military action in North Africa, the results obtained is frustrating. Libya's military positions on all the things that can be destroyed have been destroyed, including tanks, armored vehicles, command posts and communications stations. Thousands of Libyans in the Western "peace person" of the bombs killed. NATO countries are not even a single soldier there is no loss. From the traditional military science point of view, the result is perfect. From a political point of view is indeed a complete failure. Even the promoters of and participants in military operations but also to admit it. Not long ago, the Pentagon official positions from the retiring Bill Gates was the most touching expression. He was surprised his discovery: "In the history of the most powerful military alliance of the military is weak, sparsely populated country's military actions in the past 11 weeks, many allies have begun to feel nervous and ammunition, and want to bridge the gap of the requirements of the United States . "
Gates, who is an ally of the mouth? Including the United Kingdom. British Defense Minister Lim Fox recently met again with its air force commander, said the Libyan action will end, not even a general prediction can not be made, he has no money to continue to lead multi-sectoral action. He has realized that the frequent air raids and the activities of ships and helicopters, military personnel and increased the burden of technical equipment, and escort operations for the go-ability is questionable. Italy is also back. It is reported that Roma should be involved in action to set up a time frame - no later than September 30. If Prior can not win, Italy will withdraw from the war, with NATO to withdraw the temporary dominance of a cross-carrier.
France also greatly reduced the scale of operations in Libya. French Defense Minister heat Laer Long cover on July 11 announced that the opposition between the peace negotiations with Gaddafi's time to.
The Libyan leader and how is the situation? Russian Academy of Sciences Institute of Oriental Studies, director of the Arab Research Center researcher Alexei wave mining Rob believes: "Gaddafi is not a political zombie, he still holds control of the country's leverage." He believes that most residents still support the western Libya Caza Philippines. There have been mass demonstrations to support Gaddafi, the opponent completely dominant in the case of Libya, the army continued to resist, which can attest to this. Wave to adopt Rob said: "In the religious and regional movements exist in the context of strong competition, the West's policy is unreasonable, they did not seem to realize that in the direct proximity to European places the emergence of a new danger in Somalia."
Given this reality, NATO is extremely unfavorable, it is clear that Russia's mediation when requested to. According to sources, July 14, Barack Obama is Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said this telephone request. Our Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has been suggested on behalf of Tripoli with Libyan Foreign Minister Abdel Government Theo Brady to seek a compromise. July 20, two men held talks in Moscow.
Why exactly is Russia as diplomatic mediator? Want to end the conflict because most other countries have made the inevitable mistake. In Istanbul, the Libyan Liaison Group held its fourth meeting, more than 30 countries, including the U.S., Gaddafi announced that the government is illegal, in fact, tantamount to admitting that Benghazi is legal. Moscow refused to do so, but my colleagues expressed their willingness to negotiate with the parties to the conflict. Thus, although not involved in armed conflict, Russia had the opportunity in any case one can become a winner.
