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Residents agreed FAP trying to politicise AHPTEC issue

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Residents living in Aljunied, Hougang and Punggol East mostly appear little affected by the fierce debate in Parliament last week on the financial statements of their opposition-run town council.

Yahoo Singapore spoke to residents from these constituencies over the weekend and found that, while a few have since had a sharp negative change in their views of the Workers' Party or the Aljunied-Hougang-Punggol East Town Council (AHPETC), many were unconcerned.

This comes after two days of fiery exchanges in Parliament between Members of Parliament of ruling People's Action Party (PAP) and the WP over the Auditor-General’s Office (AGO's) findings of lapses in the AHPETC's financial accounts.

[READ ALSO: The dramatic things people said on day 1 of the debate, and the even more dramatic things people said on day 2 of the debate]

"I'm very confused by all the numbers, and also very worried," said tutor Anna Seow, 33, who lives with her parents in Ubi under the Aljunied group representation constituency (GRC). "My parents and I would like a full explanation and breakdown of what we have been paying for. If indeed there was financial manipulation, we would be extremely disappointed."

She said she felt that while the PAP seems to have over-dramatised the issue, her view of the WP has also taken a turn for the worse.

"I would be less convinced that they can do a good job leading us or doing anything more than debating in Parliament," she said. "I need a first world living space and constituency more than a first world Parliament."

Another Aljunied resident, who wanted to be known as Mr Tan, agreed with Seow, saying this entire episode has weakened the WP's position in the constituency.

"It was only when the government looked into the town council that we came to discover what really was happening [with its accounts]," said the 61-year-old semi-retired driver. "I think many of us are getting quite irritated by this issue... in the next election we will have to choose carefully and think about what's good and what isn't; what gives us better insurance and what doesn't."

Little impact on support
A Chinese New Year banner displayed in the Workers' Party-run Punggol East single-member constituency, photographed in February 2015. (Yahoo photo)A Chinese New Year banner displayed in the Workers' Party-run Punggol East single-member constituency, photographed …
For 35-year-old Richard Tan, a delivery driver living in Hougang, however, the controversy has not shaken his support for the opposition party.

"If they did any wrong or its members are [doing unlawful things], why isn't the government taking them to court instead of debating the issue in Parliament?" he asked. "[The WP] is a kind, friendly and trustworthy opposition party... Singaporeans need their voices in Parliament. Without them to question the government, we will have a much tougher living."

Finance analyst Lim Yun Lu, also a Hougang resident, questioned the timing of the government's exposé of the AHPETC.

"A lot of things are not transparent; we just don't know of them," she said. "I feel the PAP is using this as ammunition against the WP. How sure are they that the PAP is all clean? Isn't it too much of a coincidence that all these are suddenly getting exposed just because elections are coming?" she asked.

The issue of transparency and accountability hit home for a longtime Bedok Reservoir Road resident who wanted to be known as Ms Koh.

"All of us don't know the accounts of all the other town councils either," said the bank officer. "Perhaps they, too, should be more transparent with their accounts on the whole, in the way listed companies publish their annual reports with all the details of their expenditures broken down on their websites."

She said she did not follow the debate very closely, however, and so it has not affected her view of the WP from when they were voted in in 2011.

"Estate-management wise, I've lived here for 26 years and honestly, not much has changed since the handover [from PAP to WP]," she added.

In man-on-the-street video interviews, one resident also told Yahoo Singapore that she has seen little difference in the management of her estate whether under the PAP or WP.

One man said he would give a slightly lower rating to WP now, but most of the residents said they ultimately didn't care about the debate.

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/residents-mostly-shrug-off-ahpetc-debate-104123065.html
 

JohnTan

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The grassroots leaders would be on the ground to better explain to the residents how irresponsible WP has been, and how the government would make things right if it regained Aljunied, Hougang and Punggol East wards. Together, we will work together to make WP a homeless dog, just like all the other parties have been.
 

winnipegjets

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The WP should start sending out leaflets with the narrative that PAP has manipulated figures to support a baseless allegation and show that PAP wards until 2014 paid higher fees than the current WP TC.
 

JohnTan

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The WP should start sending out leaflets with the narrative that PAP has manipulated figures to support a baseless allegation and show that PAP wards until 2014 paid higher fees than the current WP TC.

I am hoping WP does that. That would open them wide for possible defamatory lawsuits. As long as WP sticks to spewing their drivel in Parliament, they are for now immune to such lawsuits.
 

winnipegjets

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I am hoping WP does that. That would open them wide for possible defamatory lawsuits. As long as WP sticks to spewing their drivel in Parliament, they are for now immune to such lawsuits.

The idiots Shamu and Cow don't dare to repeat their allegation outside parliament. Why? Because they are liars and are afraid of being sued.

The leaflets will use facts ...is the government able to deny facts?
 

looneytan

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The grassroots leaders would be on the ground to better explain to the residents how irresponsible WP has been, and how the government would make things right if it regained Aljunied, Hougang and Punggol East wards. Together, we will work together to make WP a homeless dog, just like all the other parties have been.

Can you still look at your own reflection in the mirror? If the answer is 'Yes' .... I rest my case
 

JohnTan

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The idiots Shamu and Cow don't dare to repeat their allegation outside parliament. Why? Because they are liars and are afraid of being sued.

The leaflets will use facts ...is the government able to deny facts?

We bankrupted JBJ for stating a fact that he made a police report against the former PMs. Go think about it.
 

looneytan

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Are you still able to look straight at your own reflection in the mirror? If the answer is 'yes' then ... I rest my case
 

Satyr

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Just for curiosity, what exactly is the market rate for TC services. There is a market rate for durians, milo, coca cola, big macs. It's a free market.
The question should be what is the market rate for supplying to the WP ? Are there multiple responses to the tender ? Why are people afraid to supply to them. If the supply is restricted then the price should be higher than in an unrestricted market. Common sense. The real question is why are businessmen afraid to supply to the WP. The cause of that fear is the real culprit IF there is indeed a higher price. I understand WP S&C charges are lower than in PAP TCs. If so, why are PAP TC S&C charges higher ? They should explain.
Aljunied residents are daft if they vote PAP so they can pay higher charges. I am not an Aljunied resident and not pro=anybody. I am pro - common sense.
 
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We bankrupted JBJ for stating a fact that he made a police report against the former PMs. Go think about it.

There is little point in issuing leaflets. Most people don't care either way. People are not amused by this circus and not a little disgusted by the clowns in the ring. Go ask.
 

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There is little point in issuing leaflets. Most people don't care either way. People are not amused by this circus and not a little disgusted by the clowns in the ring. Go ask.

The PAP strategy is to poison the minds of sinkees, littering them with baseless allegations. The PAP will make those allegations in parliament only because they will be sued if made without immunity.

WP's strategy is to launch a similar campaign of setting the record straight. Contrast the PAP bs with facts.

WP should also lauch Youtube videos.

Chip away at the PAP's credibility bit by bit, not that the PAP has any credibility left.
 

ginfreely

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Never trust any political party. Better let them counter-check each other.

Yes you are right. Actually it is good that they check on each other so that neither party will be able to slack. For example WP should improve on the allegation by the ex-employee that Msian chinese staff kept to themselves and don't mix with the Sporean employees, if it is true. WP must prevent foreigners forming cliques and being influenced and overrun by foreigners.
 

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"If they did any wrong or its members are [doing unlawful things], why isn't the government taking them to court instead of debating the issue in Parliament?" he asked. "[The WP] is a kind, friendly and trustworthy opposition party... Singaporeans need their voices in Parliament. Without them to question the government, we will have a much tougher living."

Both sides just talk and talk only - wayang.

Actions speak louder than words.

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