Renault Fluence - Good or not?

[GoldenDragon]

This is the original "tilted" dashboard/console, whatever it's called:

Saab. Kong si toh liao.

 

[chonburifc]

Wah, sibe ex.... LOL

No lah. THB 580,000 is about SGD 23,000 nia. Coe and tax is problem. Confirm zero accident. Old folks and chiobus also no problem with this car.

I throw in the petrol cost from LOS to SG.

Here's the front and rear.


Selling because bought the left one (5 year old) because bought the right one (1.5 year old) on impulse. Cannot sell the right one because still on installment.

 

[Fook Seng]

No lah. THB 580,000 is about SGD 23,000 nia. Coe and tax is problem. Confirm zero accident. Old folks and chiobus also no problem with this car.

I throw in the petrol cost from LOS to SG.

You are a salesman ah? 5 years 134k km.

 

[GoldenDragon]

You are a salesman ah? 5 years 134k km.

Bro, I once hit 100k km in slightly over 2 yrs. I am no salesman. And hardly travelled up north then. Me also not taxi driver.

 

[Froggy]

You are a salesman ah? 5 years 134k km.

Sawasdeekrup Hock Seng here in Thailand easily la because space is big unlike Singapore. Like me 100km per day is sap-sap-suay. 42km to office then 44km home already 86km plus miscellaneous easily 100km and this is like minimum per day. So for most of us in Thailand to cover 35,000km per year is normal working folks.Housewife don't count la but can still easily hit 15k-20k per year. So for this case 134,000km for 5years is actually quite little.

Oh one thing need getting use to in big countries like Thailand when someone tells you a place is very near it means anything less than 20km. If its near it likely to be within 40km.

 

[Leongsam]

Sawasdeekrup Hock Seng here in Thailand easily la because space is big unlike Singapore.

Sinkies don't have a clue what a real country looks like. When I flew to San Fransisco in the early 80s on business, I was ask by a colleague whether I could help hand carry a couple of books and pass them to a friend who lived in the USA.

I asked for the address. It turned out the friend lived on the outskirts of Chicago.

 

[Fook Seng]

Sawasdeekrup Hock Seng here in Thailand easily la because space is big unlike Singapore. Like me 100km per day is sap-sap-suay. 42km to office then 44km home already 86km plus miscellaneous easily 100km and this is like minimum per day. So for most of us in Thailand to cover 35,000km per year is normal working folks.Housewife don't count la but can still easily hit 15k-20k per year. So for this case 134,000km for 5years is actually quite little..

If it is a lot of crawl in city traffic, it is still a lot of wear and tear. In countries like this with great distances to cover, people don't keep their cars for too long unless they are ok with the deterioration.

 

[ssrrvv11]

http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer

Reliability Index

The UK Reliability index takes into account all factors of a repair, the cost of the parts and the frequency of failures - The Average of all cars is 100 which means that if the figure for the car you are looking at has a higher than average index (118) it indicates that that car is less reliable than the average, if however there is a lower than average index (60) the reliability is better.

Separately to this figure you can also look at the average cost of repairs for a particular make or model, a car with a good reliability index and a high average cost would imply that the frequency of failure is low, however when it does fail the bill will be a lot more than the average. Toyota, for example, has a high average cost of repair but quite a good index rating - which means that the car fails infrequently but when it does you will be in for a larger than average bill. Overall however, Toyota is a very strong make of car to buy.
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your list showed that honda is top. how come you only forever market toyota. i am a honda supporter now driving my 3rd honda. i never owned a toyota.

 

[ssrrvv11]

Bro, I once hit 100k km in slightly over 2 yrs. I am no salesman. And hardly travelled up north then. Me also not taxi driver.

bro GD your car usage very high. i live in central, work in west, yearly mileage about 30k. i suppose you have a lot more life than me. :(

 

[Froggy]

If it is a lot of crawl in city traffic, it is still a lot of wear and tear. In countries like this with great distances to cover, people don't keep their cars for too long unless they are ok with the deterioration.

I guess so that's why a Japanese car is more suitable because of reliability and also cost of maintenance is lower. In Thailand lucky to have a good used car market so changing cars is actually not so painful.

 

[Cerebral]

Check out Ford Mondeo if you don't want common Japanese cars that everyone seems to be driving. It's sporty, turbo, dual-clutch (you can switch between automatic & manual mode), and based on Ford EUCD (European D-Class) platform. I don't know if the price is within your budget of 100K but it's worth checking with the dealer.

If I were given a choice between a Toyota Camry and a Ford Mondeo. I'll choose the Ford Mondeo.

http://www.regentmotors.com.sg/vehicles/mondeo-ecoboost/

Ford Mondeo is a well known gas guzzler. Cannot be compared to a camry.

 

[Cerebral]

I fyou want to consider a utility car without much badging, try looking at the Skoda Yeti. Skoda typically uses older VW engines and is highly reliable. Because it is from Czech Republic, it is relatively cheaper. The yeti has very good reviews too.

For those who think Toyota is boring, try looking up FT-86 or GT-86 (Name has been changed in Nov). It's a joint venture with Subaru, with the Toyota featuring the boxer engine and rear wheel drive. Quite interesting specs too, at 190+ hp, torque at 150 or so and total curb weight to be around 1,200kg only

 

[Leongsam]

your list showed that honda is top. how come you only forever market toyota. i am a honda supporter now driving my 3rd honda. i never owned a toyota.

Honda is excellent too. I owned 3 Hondas in a row.

Hondas are more refined than Toyotas and handle better. However, they aren't as good as Toyota beyond the 10 year 200,000km mark.

If you plan changing cars every few years, by all means go for a Honda.

 

[chonburifc]

You are a salesman ah? 5 years 134k km.

If it is a lot of crawl in city traffic, it is still a lot of wear and tear. In countries like this with great distances to cover, people don't keep their cars for too long unless they are ok with the deterioration.

This car was mainly for driving in the Pattaya, which is a small. For travels to upcountry, I drive a pickup truck.

Honda is excellent too. I owned 3 Hondas in a row.

Hondas are more refined than Toyotas and handle better. However, they aren't as good as Toyota beyond the 10 year 200,000km mark.

If you plan changing cars every few years, by all means go for a Honda.

Add something, spare parts for Honda are usually more expensive that Toyotas. And fuel consumption is definitely not impressive.

 

[GoldenDragon]

bro GD your car usage very high. i live in central, work in west, yearly mileage about 30k. i suppose you have a lot more life than me. :(

Yes, when I brought my car in for servicing at 100k km, workshop supervisor was stunned. He couldn't believe I hit 100k km within such a short time. Was seepay malu coz he told all his colleagues who walked by. Machiam uncle came from another planet.

 

[Froggy]

Add something, spare parts for Honda are usually more expensive that Toyotas. And fuel consumption is definitely not impressive.

Honda appeals to younger folks in Thailand. But many had gone over to Mazda in the past year for coming up with better design and also increasing more maintenance centres. Mitsubishi Lancer although a new model here is already 4 years old in Singapore and this is also getting many younger drivers.

 

[chonburifc]

Think KYP have previously mentioned Nissan Almera. The exterior looks not bad.



think miss out another car. Ever consider Chevrolet Aveo?

 

[Alamaking]

Think KYP have previously mentioned Nissan Almera. The exterior looks not bad.

think miss out another car. Ever consider Chevrolet Aveo?

Almera have very bad review in SG, sluggish and very plastiky, worst than Latio. Chevrolet Cruze or Aveo mostly are m&d drivers in SG, dunno why, LOL

 

[mollusk]

Aiyah buy LADA cheap and good

 

[Khun Ying Pojaman]

Almera have very bad review in SG, sluggish and very plastiky, worst than Latio. Chevrolet Cruze or Aveo mostly are m&d drivers in SG, dunno why, LOL

Latio is a very good car. I'm driving one now. Nissan has inherited Renault's expertise in ergonomics design. The suspension is definitely firmer than Toyota Altis. It averages 15 km per litre. In fact I'm so satisfied with the performance of my Latio (known as Tiida over here) that I'm considering a new addition from the same family - Nissan Teana. I guess it's still known as Cefiro in Singapore.