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Serious Religious Teacher And Student Arrested Under ISA For Teaching People To Kill Apostates And Kafirs! Guess Religion!

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Actually Msia n Indon quite accomodative to non muslims. Freedom of religion n practise nowadays. Can owe properties. Can speak ur language. Can dresses like Han.

U wanna know wats forced religion/practise u go look at Middle Shit aka commis. See hw they treat the Uyghurs!

U are right,,,so accomodative that the the religion is very 'inclusive' to non believers

Christian in Indonesia publicly flogged for selling alcohol in Sharia law breach
Jono Simbolon was lashed 36 times before woman was also flogged for 'getting too close' to her fiancé



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Jono Simbolon's face twisted in agony as he was flogged 36 times by the religious enforcer ( AFP/Getty Images )
A Christian in Indonesia has been publicly flogged for selling alcohol, considered an offence under Islamic Sharia law.
Photographs show Jono Simbolon being whipped by a masked religious enforcer in front of a jeering crowd - which included children - as his face contorts with agony.

Mr Simbolon was sentenced to 36 lashes after he was found to have breached the strict law known locally as Qanun.




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The whipping took place in the provincial capital of Banda Aceh outside a mosque in what is believed to be only the third instance of a non-Muslim being flogged since the city, on Sumatra island, began enforcing sharia law in 2001.

Around 98 per cent of Aceh’s five million residents are Muslims and automatically subject to the Qanun religious law.
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Non-Muslims who have committed an offence that violates both national law and the laws of a religion they do not follow – such as selling alcohol - can choose to be prosecuted under either system.

Chief Prosecutor Erwin Desman said that as a Christian, Mr Simbolon may have opted for a trial under religious law because he would rather be flogged than risk a lengthy prison sentence under criminal proceedings.
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Mr Simbolon was led onto a makeshift stage in bare feet in front of the baying crowd, who took pictures of his ordeal. He was checked by a doctor after being sent reeling following the tenth lash before he was declared fit for the flogging to continue.

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He was one of ten people to be lashed in Aceh on the same day, including a Muslim woman found to have grown “too close” to her partner in the days leading up to their wedding.
She and her partner both received 20 lashes in front of the baying crowd.
Human Rights Watch this week condemned the government of Indonesia, accusing President Joko Wikodo of “failing to confront increasing intolerance that has led to discrimination and violence against the country’s most vulnerable minorities”.

“Jokowi’s government is turning a blind eye to worsening harassment of religious and sexual minorities,” said Phelim Kine, the group's deputy Asia director. “Officials are using the dangerously ambiguous blasphemy law to target certain religious groups, while the police are carrying out invasive raids against LGBT people.”

Mayor of Banda Aceh Aminullah Usman defended the use of corporal punishment, saying: “This is our government's commitment to enforcing Islamic law.
"If there is a violation, (people should) immediately report it to the Sharia police and we will carry out a punishment like today's caning.”
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Aceh is the only province in Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim-majority country, which implements Sharia law.

Last year, two gay men who admitted having sex were flogged in the province, with each receiving 100 lashes.
Homosexuality is not illegal in the rest of Indonesia, which mainly follows a criminal code inherited from former colonial ruler the Netherlands, but religious minorities face discriminatory laws and regulations as well as harassment, intimidation, and violence from Islamist militants.
In early 2017, the Ministry of Religious Affairs drafted a bill to further entrench the country’s blasphemy law as well as discriminatory government decrees, including one that prevents religious minorities from obtaining permits to build place of worship.
In May 2017, a Jakarta court sentenced former Jakarta Governor Basuki Tjahaja Purnama, a Christian, to a two-year prison sentence for blasphemy against Islam.
 

Hypocrite-The

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Loyal
Actually Msia n Indon quite accomodative to non muslims. Freedom of religion n practise nowadays. Can owe properties. Can speak ur language. Can dresses like Han.

U wanna know wats forced religion/practise u go look at Middle Shit aka commis. See hw they treat the Uyghurs!

I am all for ah tiong land tactics against the mudslimes,,,because if they dont do it,,,the mudslimes will turn the tables on them soon enough,,and why would u give a shit about Uyghurs? they are not sunnis and because they are not sunnis,,,even the ME countries dont give a shit about them,,,Even mudland and indonland dont bother too,,,guess u are more of a hypocrite them me....using them as a political and religious point but does nothing for them...anyway,,typical m&d thinking,,,
 

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None of Muddysia or Indogs are syariah compliant countries liao.

You think sinkie ah peks would have mistresses in batam if indogs were syariah compliant?

You think muddysia would host genting if it were shariah compliant?

Sharia compliant? Akan datang

Islamists' growing clout strains Indonesia's democratic pillars
Hard-liners' ability to rally the masses cows politicians into acquiescence
JUN SUZUKI, Nikkei staff writerFEBRUARY 27, 2018 11:30 JST
JAKARTA -- It was an ordinary Sunday Mass until the 300 congregants heard the young man shouting "Allahu akbar," or God is great.
The man stormed into St. Lidwina Church in Yogyakarta, on the Indonesian island of Java, at around 7:30 a.m. on Feb. 11. Brandishing a meter-long sword, the alleged assailant attacked Father Karl Edmund Prier at the altar and decapitated two statues of Jesus Christ before he was shot by police. The motive remains unknown, but investigators believe the man, later identified as Suliyono, was influenced by radical Muslim groups.
The incident was the latest reminder of how such groups are tugging at the threads of Indonesia's multiethnic and multireligious society, threatening one of the country's guiding principles since independence: Bhinneka Tunggal Ika, which translates to unity in diversity.

As president, Joko Widodo is the chief guardian of that principle, and he issued a strong statement after the St. Lidwina attack. "There is no place in our country for intolerants. Especially those who are violent." Leading Muslim organizations also condemned the attack.
Yet, official and religious solidarity against intolerance is not exactly rock solid.
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A damaged statue of Jesus Christ stands inside Yogyakarta's St. Lidwina Church after an attack by a sword-wielding man on Feb. 11. © Reuters
Two weeks before the attack, St. Paul's, another Catholic church in Yogyakarta, canceled a charity program after a conservative Muslim organization protested the "Christianization" of the community.
The protest received unexpected support from Sultan Hamengkubuwono X, the hereditary governor of Yogyakarta Province. The charity "should not have organized under the name of the church," he said.
This was startling to those who expect the governor to be conscious of all faiths, especially with ancient Buddhist and Hindu temple compounds -- Borobudur and Prambanan -- in or near Yogyakarta.
A spate of attacks against religious leaders, such as a Buddhist priest and two Muslim clerics, underscores the growing tensions in the country. At least four cases have been reported this year. The Jakarta-based Institute for Democracy and Peace, known as Setara, recorded 109 cases of intolerance from January to August last year, including attacks on minorities, religious leaders or facilities.
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Worshippers pray at Jakarta's Istiqlal mosque. © Reuters
Islam is the dominant religion in Indonesia, with adherents accounting for more than 80% of the population. Most are moderate and peacefully live side by side with Christians, Hindus and neighbors of other faiths. But in the increasingly charged social atmosphere, many may be reluctant to speak out against intolerance.
For their part, the hard-liners, who do not hide their disdain for pluralism, have shown a knack for mobilizing large crowds to protest perceived affronts to Islam. This strength-in-numbers strategy is raising their political clout.
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The tip of the spear is the Islamic Defenders Front, or FPI. The group's goal is to introduce sharia law to Indonesia. Its members wear white robes and have a reputation for violent tactics. Until recently, the media did not take the FPI seriously, since its objectives were considered too radical.
Now the group has become impossible to ignore, but why?
"Radicalism is not growing in Indonesia so much, but using social media makes it easier to spread such information," said Setara Chairman Hendardi.
The FPI was a major factor in the downfall of Jakarta's previous governor, Basuki Tjahaja Purnama, known as Ahok. The group staged a rally on Dec. 2, 2016, claiming that the ethnic-Chinese Christian politician had insulted the Quran. A crowd of 300,000 rallied in the capital, chanting "jail Ahok."
The governor failed in a re-election bid and was later sentenced to two years in prison for blasphemy.
Many politicians now recognize the power of the hard-liners. Prabowo Subianto, a former son-in-law of longtime dictator Suharto, endorsed Anies Baswedan in his campaign against Ahok. When Baswedan won the governorship last April, Subianto thanked the FPI.

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Protesters chant slogans at a rally against then-Jakarta Gov. Basuki "Ahok" Tjahaja Purnama, a Christian, in December 2016. © AP
The advance of the hard-liners can be traced to Indonesia's decentralization process around the turn of the century.
After the fall of Suharto in 1998, political reforms gave local authorities more control. Regional governments were empowered to recruit teachers and choose teaching materials. Consequently, the central government has lost control of religious education, creating space for indoctrinating children with the idea of Islamic supremacy.

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Indonesia's Islamists create re-election minefield for Widodo
Joko Widodo vows to 'fix' Indonesia as political heat rises


"The reform period had an impact on the development of extremism, leading intolerant groups to dare to actively voice their view," said Jeirry Sumampow, a spokesman for the Indonesian Communion of Churches, a Christian group.
Polling suggests younger generations are increasingly embracing hard-line thinking. Twenty percent of high-school students support a caliphate, according to a Reuters report on a poll by local research company Alvara. Another poll found that about 60% of high school students think they have a radical attitude toward religion.
"Conservative ideology has not yet become the mainstream, but the poll results are very worrying," a European diplomat said.
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President Joko Widodo and first lady Iriana pose with elementary school students in Kalimantan: Decentralization has empowered local authorities to push religious education. © Reuters
Presidential hopefuls will be mindful of the data, not to mention the lessons of the Jakarta gubernatorial race, as they gear up for the next general election in April 2019. Campaigning for local elections in major provinces, scheduled for this June, is underway. For some politicians, the allure of conservative Muslim support will be too hard to resist.
Intense pressure on the LGBT community is a case in point.
"It's almost final now, regarding the LGBT issue. We're working on extending the definition of LGBT," Hanafi Rais, a lawmaker from the Islamic-leaning National Mandate Party, told reporters on Feb. 1.
Rais was speaking about a draft revision of the criminal code: Lawmakers from all 10 political parties in the legislature have reportedly agreed that gay sex, as well as premarital and extramarital sex, should be included in the legal clause on adultery. Perpetrators could face up to five years in prison.

There is no place in our country for intolerants. Especially those who are violent
President Joko Widodo
The draft has drawn fierce criticism from human rights groups and the international community. Many Indonesians will tell you those acts should not be subject to penalties. Yet within the legislature, there have been few objections, likely because lawmakers fear being branded as "anti-Islam" -- a potentially career-ending label. Even Widodo remains silent.
The president himself was targeted with such smears during the 2014 election campaign. Rumors that Widodo is ethnically Chinese allowed his opponent, Subianto, to push the anti-Islam line and almost catch up.
The basic principles of democracy hang in the balance -- not just unity in diversity, but freedom of speech and other rights. Already, the country's score in the Economist Intelligence Unit's Democracy Index fell in 2017.
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Might the social tensions undermine the economy?
Widodo has pushed numerous infrastructure projects in his first three years in office. At home and abroad, investors are gaining confidence in his stewardship. Expectations for stable growth are high: By 2050, the country is projected to become the world's fourth-largest economy.
"Indonesia's resilience to external shocks has steadily strengthened in the past few years, as macroeconomic policies have consistently been geared toward maintaining stability," Fitch Ratings said when it upgraded Indonesia's sovereign bonds on Dec. 21.
The ethnic-Chinese head of a conglomerate stressed that the uncomfortable mixture of religion and politics is nothing new. "There are always politicians who take advantage of religion in elections," the executive said. "I'm not worried."
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Yet, hard-line Muslim groups are increasingly targeting ethnic Chinese, many of whom are Christians, alleging that they control the country's wealth.
"Hey, Mr. President, don't sell our country to Beijing," former parliamentary speaker Amien Rais said recently. The moderate Muslim leader helped bring down Suharto and holds a Ph.D. from the University of Chicago, but in today's political environment, even he sounds similar to the FPI.
Turkey may be a cautionary tale.
The moderate Muslim country long maintained a commitment to secularism, guaranteeing the government's independence from religion. Now, after more than a decade under President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, that principle is under siege.
Parents are finding their neighborhood schools are placing less weight on science in favor of religion. The Diyanet, a government body that oversees mosques nationwide and makes judgment on religious affairs, is more powerful than ever, armed with a budget 14 times bigger than when Erdogan came to power.
Will Indonesia go the way of Turkey, or perhaps its own province of Aceh?
In Aceh, where sharia law is partially implemented, religious police order residents to dress appropriately as Muslims. They ban women from straddling motorcycles. Unmarried men and women are not allowed to be in the same room.
Human Rights Watch, a U.S. advocacy group, has accused the Aceh authorities of extending the interpretation of sharia law and applying it to women and other socially vulnerable groups.
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Indonesian President Joko Widodo plans to raise diesel subsidies as he heads toward the April 2019 presidential election. © Getty Images
Increasingly, Indonesian politics is a competition between two visions of the state.
In one opinion poll, respondents were asked to choose a presidential candidate who best embodies Pancasila -- five national principles, including unity in diversity. Their top choice was Widodo.
The respondents were also asked to choose a candidate who is closest to Islam. Subianto ranked first.
The two men are widely expected to face off again in the 2019 election, and the result could be felt for generations to come. "If intolerance were accepted," warned the Communion of Churches' Sumampow, "Indonesia could fall into a crisis of division."
Nikkei staff writers Akihiro Sano in Istanbul, and Bobby Nugroho and Erwida Maulia in Jakarta contributed to this story.
 

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Like i said before, harsh punishmrnts are used to silence critics and prevent open discussion on matter of faith and you have given a good example of it.

Matter of faith? Msian Xtians buddhist n hindus practise their religion freely. They even have chinatown all over the states. Indon also have chinatown
 

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Sharia compliant? Akan datang

Islamists' growing clout strains Indonesia's democratic pillars
Hard-liners' ability to rally the masses cows politicians into acquiescence
JUN SUZUKI, Nikkei staff writerFEBRUARY 27, 2018 11:30 JST
JAKARTA -- It was an ordinary Sunday Mass until the 300 congregants heard the young man shouting "Allahu akbar," or God is great.
The man stormed into St. Lidwina Church in Yogyakarta, on the Indonesian island of Java, at around 7:30 a.m. on Feb. 11. Brandishing a meter-long sword, the alleged assailant attacked Father Karl Edmund Prier at the altar and decapitated two statues of Jesus Christ before he was shot by police. The motive remains unknown, but investigators believe the man, later identified as Suliyono, was influenced by radical Muslim groups.
The incident was the latest reminder of how such groups are tugging at the threads of Indonesia's multiethnic and multireligious society, threatening one of the country's guiding principles since independence: Bhinneka Tunggal Ika, which translates to unity in diversity.

As president, Joko Widodo is the chief guardian of that principle, and he issued a strong statement after the St. Lidwina attack. "There is no place in our country for intolerants. Especially those who are violent." Leading Muslim organizations also condemned the attack.
Yet, official and religious solidarity against intolerance is not exactly rock solid.
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A damaged statue of Jesus Christ stands inside Yogyakarta's St. Lidwina Church after an attack by a sword-wielding man on Feb. 11. © Reuters
Two weeks before the attack, St. Paul's, another Catholic church in Yogyakarta, canceled a charity program after a conservative Muslim organization protested the "Christianization" of the community.
The protest received unexpected support from Sultan Hamengkubuwono X, the hereditary governor of Yogyakarta Province. The charity "should not have organized under the name of the church," he said.
This was startling to those who expect the governor to be conscious of all faiths, especially with ancient Buddhist and Hindu temple compounds -- Borobudur and Prambanan -- in or near Yogyakarta.
A spate of attacks against religious leaders, such as a Buddhist priest and two Muslim clerics, underscores the growing tensions in the country. At least four cases have been reported this year. The Jakarta-based Institute for Democracy and Peace, known as Setara, recorded 109 cases of intolerance from January to August last year, including attacks on minorities, religious leaders or facilities.
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Worshippers pray at Jakarta's Istiqlal mosque. © Reuters
Islam is the dominant religion in Indonesia, with adherents accounting for more than 80% of the population. Most are moderate and peacefully live side by side with Christians, Hindus and neighbors of other faiths. But in the increasingly charged social atmosphere, many may be reluctant to speak out against intolerance.
For their part, the hard-liners, who do not hide their disdain for pluralism, have shown a knack for mobilizing large crowds to protest perceived affronts to Islam. This strength-in-numbers strategy is raising their political clout.
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The tip of the spear is the Islamic Defenders Front, or FPI. The group's goal is to introduce sharia law to Indonesia. Its members wear white robes and have a reputation for violent tactics. Until recently, the media did not take the FPI seriously, since its objectives were considered too radical.
Now the group has become impossible to ignore, but why?
"Radicalism is not growing in Indonesia so much, but using social media makes it easier to spread such information," said Setara Chairman Hendardi.
The FPI was a major factor in the downfall of Jakarta's previous governor, Basuki Tjahaja Purnama, known as Ahok. The group staged a rally on Dec. 2, 2016, claiming that the ethnic-Chinese Christian politician had insulted the Quran. A crowd of 300,000 rallied in the capital, chanting "jail Ahok."
The governor failed in a re-election bid and was later sentenced to two years in prison for blasphemy.
Many politicians now recognize the power of the hard-liners. Prabowo Subianto, a former son-in-law of longtime dictator Suharto, endorsed Anies Baswedan in his campaign against Ahok. When Baswedan won the governorship last April, Subianto thanked the FPI.

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Protesters chant slogans at a rally against then-Jakarta Gov. Basuki "Ahok" Tjahaja Purnama, a Christian, in December 2016. © AP
The advance of the hard-liners can be traced to Indonesia's decentralization process around the turn of the century.
After the fall of Suharto in 1998, political reforms gave local authorities more control. Regional governments were empowered to recruit teachers and choose teaching materials. Consequently, the central government has lost control of religious education, creating space for indoctrinating children with the idea of Islamic supremacy.

SEE ALSO
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Indonesia's Islamists create re-election minefield for Widodo
Joko Widodo vows to 'fix' Indonesia as political heat rises


"The reform period had an impact on the development of extremism, leading intolerant groups to dare to actively voice their view," said Jeirry Sumampow, a spokesman for the Indonesian Communion of Churches, a Christian group.
Polling suggests younger generations are increasingly embracing hard-line thinking. Twenty percent of high-school students support a caliphate, according to a Reuters report on a poll by local research company Alvara. Another poll found that about 60% of high school students think they have a radical attitude toward religion.
"Conservative ideology has not yet become the mainstream, but the poll results are very worrying," a European diplomat said.
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President Joko Widodo and first lady Iriana pose with elementary school students in Kalimantan: Decentralization has empowered local authorities to push religious education. © Reuters
Presidential hopefuls will be mindful of the data, not to mention the lessons of the Jakarta gubernatorial race, as they gear up for the next general election in April 2019. Campaigning for local elections in major provinces, scheduled for this June, is underway. For some politicians, the allure of conservative Muslim support will be too hard to resist.
Intense pressure on the LGBT community is a case in point.
"It's almost final now, regarding the LGBT issue. We're working on extending the definition of LGBT," Hanafi Rais, a lawmaker from the Islamic-leaning National Mandate Party, told reporters on Feb. 1.
Rais was speaking about a draft revision of the criminal code: Lawmakers from all 10 political parties in the legislature have reportedly agreed that gay sex, as well as premarital and extramarital sex, should be included in the legal clause on adultery. Perpetrators could face up to five years in prison.

There is no place in our country for intolerants. Especially those who are violent
President Joko Widodo
The draft has drawn fierce criticism from human rights groups and the international community. Many Indonesians will tell you those acts should not be subject to penalties. Yet within the legislature, there have been few objections, likely because lawmakers fear being branded as "anti-Islam" -- a potentially career-ending label. Even Widodo remains silent.
The president himself was targeted with such smears during the 2014 election campaign. Rumors that Widodo is ethnically Chinese allowed his opponent, Subianto, to push the anti-Islam line and almost catch up.
The basic principles of democracy hang in the balance -- not just unity in diversity, but freedom of speech and other rights. Already, the country's score in the Economist Intelligence Unit's Democracy Index fell in 2017.
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Might the social tensions undermine the economy?
Widodo has pushed numerous infrastructure projects in his first three years in office. At home and abroad, investors are gaining confidence in his stewardship. Expectations for stable growth are high: By 2050, the country is projected to become the world's fourth-largest economy.
"Indonesia's resilience to external shocks has steadily strengthened in the past few years, as macroeconomic policies have consistently been geared toward maintaining stability," Fitch Ratings said when it upgraded Indonesia's sovereign bonds on Dec. 21.
The ethnic-Chinese head of a conglomerate stressed that the uncomfortable mixture of religion and politics is nothing new. "There are always politicians who take advantage of religion in elections," the executive said. "I'm not worried."
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Yet, hard-line Muslim groups are increasingly targeting ethnic Chinese, many of whom are Christians, alleging that they control the country's wealth.
"Hey, Mr. President, don't sell our country to Beijing," former parliamentary speaker Amien Rais said recently. The moderate Muslim leader helped bring down Suharto and holds a Ph.D. from the University of Chicago, but in today's political environment, even he sounds similar to the FPI.
Turkey may be a cautionary tale.
The moderate Muslim country long maintained a commitment to secularism, guaranteeing the government's independence from religion. Now, after more than a decade under President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, that principle is under siege.
Parents are finding their neighborhood schools are placing less weight on science in favor of religion. The Diyanet, a government body that oversees mosques nationwide and makes judgment on religious affairs, is more powerful than ever, armed with a budget 14 times bigger than when Erdogan came to power.
Will Indonesia go the way of Turkey, or perhaps its own province of Aceh?
In Aceh, where sharia law is partially implemented, religious police order residents to dress appropriately as Muslims. They ban women from straddling motorcycles. Unmarried men and women are not allowed to be in the same room.
Human Rights Watch, a U.S. advocacy group, has accused the Aceh authorities of extending the interpretation of sharia law and applying it to women and other socially vulnerable groups.
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Indonesian President Joko Widodo plans to raise diesel subsidies as he heads toward the April 2019 presidential election. © Getty Images
Increasingly, Indonesian politics is a competition between two visions of the state.
In one opinion poll, respondents were asked to choose a presidential candidate who best embodies Pancasila -- five national principles, including unity in diversity. Their top choice was Widodo.
The respondents were also asked to choose a candidate who is closest to Islam. Subianto ranked first.
The two men are widely expected to face off again in the 2019 election, and the result could be felt for generations to come. "If intolerance were accepted," warned the Communion of Churches' Sumampow, "Indonesia could fall into a crisis of division."
Nikkei staff writers Akihiro Sano in Istanbul, and Bobby Nugroho and Erwida Maulia in Jakarta contributed to this story.

Wah lau eh.

Nips oredi lao sai liao their mei mei got fu.cked by all the ah peks ah bengs ang moh kias by the boatloads. Still their economy got no sign of revival.

Now got time to channel anger to indogs?

Let me know when Indogs stop sinkie ah peks from visiting their mistresses in batam.
 

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Matter of faith? Msian Xtians buddhist n hindus practise their religion freely. They even have chinatown all over the states. Indon also have chinatown

A ‘cross-like symbol’ in Malaysia adds to religious chaos

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Kazi Mahmood
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January 20, 2019
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A cross – or what looked like one – caused a major stir in Malaysia this week and right after this incident, a report blamed Islamic extremism and communism for a sharp rise in global violence against Christians.
In Malaysia, the Islamist opposition came at the forefront against a symbol displayed on a building that confused some Muslims in Pakatan Harapan held Penang.
However, it is possibly a tweaked shot of the building with the symbol lighted at night that is the origin of the confusion after it went viral.

Malaysia is still reeling from last year’s events when a Hindu temple, the Mariamman Temple, was attacked by a group armed with machetes and sticks.
The attacks resulted in the death of a fireman and his death is now exploited by the Malaysian opposition as an act against Muslims.
PAS – Party Islam Malaysia – information chief Nasrudin Hassan said one of the founders of the apartment – where the cross-like shape is displayed – was involved in a US-based Christian business group.

“The founder and managing director of the project developer is a person who is actively involved in the Nehemiah Project and in promoting the Christianisation agenda,” he alleged.
The owner of the apartment building is Nova Mulia Development Sdn Bhd. The PAS believes the display of the cross is part of a ‘Christianisation’ agenda by the owners of the apartment building.
Netizens, albeit biased at times in their comments on the incident, showed their rage accusing the PAS of blindness or of fearmongering some supported the Islamists for fear the ‘Christian’ agenda was real in Penang.
Penang has a history of controversies raised by Muslims in particular against the current DAP-led state government. The situation was no different under the Gerakan (Barisan Nasional)-led regime too.
The state had its share of attacks against proselytising of Muslims and against the distribution of Bibles to Muslims at the workplace by non-Muslims.
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This picture – showing a cross – went viral in Malaysia causing a stir among Muslims – Credit: Social Media
It is illegal to promote Christianity or any other faith to Muslims and this is not bound to change under the Pakatan Harapan government.

But was it a cross that was displayed on the building in Penang?
Reports have since then said cross in lights on the Grace Residence building in Jelutong, Penang, was actually a Chinese character for ‘royal’.
De facto Islamic Affairs Minister Mujahid Yusof Rawa has called for a stop to sensationalising of the ‘cross’ issue.
“I advise everyone to stop sensationalising the issue to the point that it can lead to other things and cause hate (among religions).
“We have to be fair, and the developer should also be sensitive to such issues,” he was quoted as saying by Berita Harian.
However, the fact the photograph – taken in an angle that showed a cross, instead of the full extent of it showing the Chinese character – went viral is signs of deeper unrest in some minds in the country.

Perhaps the Pakatan government should go a notch higher in condemning those who stirred religious sentiments in the country?
On a global scale, Africa is a major epicenter of violence against Christians, with groups loyal to the Islamic State growing in sub-Saharan Africa.
Asia is also seen as a new hotbed in persecution against Christians with China leading in its anti-religious drive.
But countries like Indonesia, Pakistan and India are not far behind according to reports.
Open Doors, a group that published a report on violence against Christians, noted a splinter group of Boko Haram, the Islamic State West Africa Province, or ISWAP targeting Christians in Africa.
Nevertheless, some reports said the ‘Cross’ in Malaysia has since then changed to the Chinese word ‘Ong’, meaning prosperity.
The Penang Island City Council (MBPP) has been instructed to investigate claims related to the controversial apartment building in Jelutong.
On its website, the Nehemiah Project International Ministries (NPIM), which is headquartered in the state of Oregon, USA, describes itself as a business development and support organisation through “biblical entrepreneurship” training, coaching and access to capital.
 

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Wah lau eh.

Nips oredi lao sai liao their mei mei got fu.cked by all the ah peks ah bengs ang moh kias by the boatloads. Still their economy got no sign of revival.

Now got time to channel anger to indogs?

Let me know when Indogs stop sinkie ah peks from visiting their mistresses in batam.

Actually if indons put a stop to all those going to indonland for a bonk,,,half the country would starve,,,
 

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Really meh?

How many Sinkie ah peks go to indogs? How much they spend liao?

Go to the ferry terminal and see lor,,,and CNY coming up,,,see the numbers go over....and if each chick cost 100 bucks,,,,they earn in a day what an average indon earn in a week working at some fast food joint...
 

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Really meh?

How many Sinkie ah peks go to indogs? How much they spend liao?

U listen to tat troll u will be confused. During 1998 financial crisis/riot in jkt. Lots of company closed down. Millions were jobless. Woman were forced to prostitution. Ah pek like the Hypocrite took the opportunities to kol chicken. As usual as his nick suggested...he will twist n turn n told everyone here hes a xtian..giving aids to those pros.But wat he didnt tell u is tat most of those cewek already no longer in flesh trade. Tks to sm local NGOs who help those poor n naive young gils fm maniac like the Hypocrite. Nowaday only in Btm have such trade. But wont be long. Matter of time ah pek like our resident troll may have to go geylang n call mei mei
 

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U listen to tat troll u will be confused. During 1998 financial crisis/riot in jkt. Lots of company closed down. Millions were jobless. Woman were forced to prostitution. Ah pek like the Hypocrite took the opportunities to kol chicken. As usual as his nick suggested...he will twist n turn n told everyone here hes a xtian..giving aids to those pros.But wat he didnt tell u is tat most of those cewek already no longer in flesh trade. Tks to sm local NGOs who help those poor n naive young gils fm maniac like the Hypocrite. Nowaday only in Btm have such trade. But wont be long. Matter of time ah pek like our resident troll may have to go geylang n call mei mei

your post just cracks me up,,,,,anyway,,,m&ds in denial is nothing new,,,
 

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Why never arrest Buddhists?
They control the gahmen of sri lanka and myanmar andnget away with human right abuses.
Myanmar for example, have been persecuting shan, kachin and chin people for many decades now. Its only recently they started to persecute rohingyas.
In sri lanka, the tamil tigers were wiped out.
 
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