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Regulators Refusing to Act - Hyflux & Noble Group's Decline

Filloz

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At the second round of town hall meetings held by Hyflux on 18 Jan last year with security holders, Hyflux CEO Olivia Lum seemed to claim that the PAP government had “given instructions” for her company to plan for 8 million population.

In any case, the followings were recorded in its Q&A session at the second round of town hall meetings last year. This was published on Hyflux’s website:


https://www.onlinecitizenasia.com/2...-company-to-prepare-for-8-million-population/

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This article will make the authorities more determined to slaughter and silent the Hyflux investors.
 

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SIAS = SIAsuay

SIAS called Johnny Wijaya trying to pitch for commission and business and got pawned by Johnny. Many PR companies would have also made such "courtesy call" to Johnny to offer the services.

The Securities Investors Association (Singapore) (SIAS) has stated that their meeting with Indonesian businessman Johnny Widjaja was “much more in the nature of an introductory courtesy call”, according to a statement by SIAS founder & CEO David Gerald.
https://sbr.com.sg/utilities/news/sias-claims-meeting-indonesian-businessman-was-“courtesy-call”
 

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Hin Leong boss was poorly advised by Rajah Tann. There was no need for the Senior Lim to own up anything. Hin Leong has no paperwork for most deals, only a few know the type and quantity of oil stored in each vessel. Many transactions and bribery for overseas officials are in bags of cash. No doubt that the Lim family falsified accounts, their auditors will also not be charged because they use the numbers from the company's declarations. Auditors don't do valuations.

Enterprise Singapore is very desperate to bailout Hin Leong because Singapore's bunkering sector will be crippled if Hin Leong's assets fall into foreign ownership. However, the stupid Rajah Tann lawyer told Senior Lim to take the blame for his daughter and son, now it is harder for Enterprise Singapore to help Hin Leong.

On the other hand, our government is very reluctant to help Hyflux. Taking clue from Hin Leong's wrong move, having the regulators to take action on Hyflux now, is to make it harder to even discuss about getting any state bailout. Investors will stop pestering the MPs about this issue in upcoming elections. If I am correct, Hyflux's auditor will also not be punished like Hin Leong's and Hyflux's whitehorse management can get off lightly as long as they don't plead guilty to any charges. Thereafter, Hyflux investors can be silenced and buried under the sands.

News is out for Rajah & Tann's flop
https://www.straitstimes.com/busine...ing-to-stop-rajah-tann-from-taking-court-role
 

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Dear P&P,

I wish to share my personal take that the senior creditors will not fall for Utico's latest bait.
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/middle-ea...t-hyflux-submits-binding-offer-034531603.html

If you bother to read their new proposal, they still don't have money. The negligible amount of shares of the SPVs, Utico or New Hyflux has no value to speak of. The assets within, could be non-existence (transferred) except the piles of old debts. If I guess correctly, the proposed stakes given to you will be just an empty shell.

Don't trust them. They have no money and want a piece of the action.
 
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Another buyer appeared called The Spectrum Solutions Group
Priority is that OL cannot be touched. haha, they think we are stoopigs.
They are buying OL's freedom, not Hyflux.

Hahaha, CAD should arrest OL long ago so these people appear earlier.

https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Announcement - 26 July 2020.ashx?App=Announcement&FileID=625029


Salim tried to withdraw his cheque but Olivia encashed it.
Aqua Munda & FCC Aqualia did not bring along their cheque book.
Spectrum Solution Groups, Pison Investments and Unilegend just waved their cheque books and threatened the prosecutors not to touch Olivia.

Utico issued a post-dated cheque and there is no account number on the bottom of the cheque.
 

Byebye Penis

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UWG will try to file for JM before national day. $900m gone for UWG
$900m gone for PnP
plus plus plus

Money just disappeared like that. So obvious that this is a scam.
JM will open the can of worms and send Olivia to jail.
 

Filloz

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UWG will try to file for JM before national day. $900m gone for UWG
$900m gone for PnP
plus plus plus

Money just disappeared like that. So obvious that this is a scam.
JM will open the can of worms and send Olivia to jail.

You missed out something
Senior Debts is $1.9bn + P&P $0.9bn = $2.8bn
 

Filloz

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Salim tried to withdraw his cheque but Olivia encashed it.
Aqua Munda & FCC Aqualia did not bring along their cheque book.
Spectrum Solution Groups, Pison Investments and Unilegend just waved their cheque books and threatened the prosecutors not to touch Olivia.

Utico issued a post-dated cheque and there is no account number on the bottom of the cheque.

Some of them are related to Hyflux's board of Directors, market rumored 2-4 of them are.

Don't believe? You try jailing Olivia, Simon Tay and Gay Chee Cheong, immediately they will show you the money.
 

Filloz

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Dear P&P,

I wish to share my personal take that the senior creditors will not fall for Utico's latest bait.
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/middle-ea...t-hyflux-submits-binding-offer-034531603.html

If you bother to read their new proposal, they still don't have money. The negligible amount of shares of the SPVs, Utico or New Hyflux has no value to speak of. The assets within, could be non-existence (transferred) except the piles of old debts. If I guess correctly, the proposed stakes given to you will be just an empty shell.

Don't trust them. They have no money and want a piece of the action.


1. There has been no creditor consultation.

2. A JM is accountable to the court and free from any agenda that the board of Hyflux may have.

3. Hyflux and its current and former directors are the subject of criminal investigations by the Singapore authorities, for suspected false and misleading statements and breaches of disclosure rules that may have taken place over a period of years.

4. There is every interest on the part of the board to protect itself to make sure that claims don't commence against the board members. Hyflux has made this pre-condition clear in creditor meetings, despite strong resistance from the UWG. The board will certainly gravitate to options that give them that release, as opposed to what is valuable for creditors.

5. Potential investors' interest in Hyflux will not diminish if Hyflux is placed under JM.

6. While other investors, fronted by Unilegend Investments, Pison Investments and Aqua Munda have said that they will walk back their proposals if the board of Hyflux and founder Olivia Lum are removed, or if Hyflux is placed under JM, all these statements must be taken with a pinch of salt as their engagements with creditors are still in very nascent stages, Mr Ng said. He also noted that the invitation memorandums sent out by Pison and Aqua Munda to Hyflux's senior unsecured creditors to buy their debt at a discount are practically identical in appearance: "We have serious doubts about the bona fide (nature) of these parties... They (the Pison and Aqua Munda offers) are almost a copycat of each other." Other questions about who is funding Aqua Munda remain unanswered, Mr Ng added: "In January, Hogan Lovells, my instructing solicitors, wrote to (Hyflux chief executive) Olivia Lum to ask if there was any involvement with Aqua Munda. Ms Lum brushed these queries aside by saying they are irrelevant... In July, (Hyflux) said that there is no agreement between Aqua Munda and Olivia Lum. So I would say that the original queries were never ever answered."

7. The chance of a successful Utico deal is nil, he said, since the UWG and an informal steering committee of Hyflux medium-term note holders who together represent 73 per cent of Hyflux's senior unsecured debt have said that they will vote against the Utico deal.

8. Aqua Munda, meanwhile, has "made a song and dance about engaging with Sias", or the Securities Investors Association (Singapore), Mr Ng observed. But since Aqua Munda met Sias last month, there has been "radio silence" as to what it will offer PnP holders. Mr Ng asked: "Are these genuine proposals or merely games to extend the restructuring for as long as possible?"

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/co...ditors-to-file-for-hyflux-judicial-management
 

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Some of them are related to Hyflux's board of Directors, market rumored 2-4 of them are.

Don't believe? You try jailing Olivia, Simon Tay and Gay Chee Cheong, immediately they will show you the money.

BOD Gay Chee Cheong and former Hyflux's Cynthia Chia's Heliconia (Temasek) just bailed out Pacific International Lines
https://www.tradewindsnews.com/fina...nds-to-pacific-international-lines/2-1-849313

Cynthia is so ashamed of her Hyflux past that she removed the company name from her intro on Heliconia website this year.
 

Filloz

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The chance of a successful Utico deal is nil, he said, since the UWG and an informal steering committee of Hyflux medium-term note holders who together represent 73 per cent of Hyflux's senior unsecured debt have said that they will vote against the Utico deal.

Loser or Dreamer? Waste of time, no money then fuck off!

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/co...dorsement-as-hyflux-judicial-management-looms

UTICO on Wednesday urged the Securities Investors Association (Singapore), or Sias, to endorse the Middle Eastern utility firm’s proposed rescue package for Hyflux. The chance of a successful Utico deal is nil, according to the UWG's lawyer Eddee Ng of Tan Kok Quan Partnership. This is because the UWG and an informal steering committee of medium-term note holders who together represent 73 per cent of Hyflux’s senior unsecured debt have said they will vote against the Middle Eastern suitor’s deal, Mr Ng said on Monday.
 

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THE Securities Investors Association (Singapore), or Sias, does not plan to endorse the rescue offers for Hyflux put forth by potential white knights including Utico, Sias chief executive David Gerald said in a statement on Thursday.

He was responding to a July 29 statement by Utico, urging Sias to to endorse the Middle Eastern utility firm’s proposed S$485 million cash-and-stock rescue package for Hyflux. https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/co...any-hyflux-rescue-deal-urges-utico-to-address
 

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Can see from Utico's letter that MTN lawyers getting less and less. Looks like Hyflux's board managed to burn out the investors by dragging

https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Letter from Utico - 31 July 2020.ashx?App=Announcement&FileID=626004

Anyway, don't be conned by the above Utico's offer terms.

Even if you agree to get back a few percent from Utico, please take note that they want you to agree first and pay part of it in kind (in shares of their imaginary future company, listed in don't know). The company might also be negative networth or non-profitable.
 

Byebye Penis

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Can see from Utico's letter that MTN lawyers getting less and less. Looks like Hyflux's board managed to burn out the investors by dragging

https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Letter from Utico - 31 July 2020.ashx?App=Announcement&FileID=626004

Anyway, don't be conned by the above Utico's offer terms.

Even if you agree to get back a few percent from Utico, please take note that they want you to agree first and pay part of it in kind (in shares of their imaginary future company, listed in don't know). The company might also be negative networth or non-profitable.

If u read carefully, Utico states that even if JM, they also interested.
 

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Byebye Penis

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Now, more suitors are going to appear to bail out olivia

Yesterday's news: HYFLUX on Thursday announced that the unsecured working group (UWG) of bank lenders has filed its application for a judicial management order. https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/co...lenders-files-judicial-management-application

Today's Ad notice by Pison
https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/sites/default/files/graphics/2020/08/13/BT_13082020_108693.PDF

CAD and ACRA are obviously dragging their feet. Only JM can dig the scams committed by Olivia, Simon Tay and Gay Chee Cheong, after that we can sue them individually.
 
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