Reader catches ST reporters trying to portray PAP in good light over Palmer’s affair

[po2wq]

Re: Reader catches ST reporters trying to portray PAP in good light over Palmer’s aff

Hougangers never said onec that WP handled the issue well. You are delusional.

ya, man! ...

hougangers muz repot 2 u wat dey want 2 say, man! ...

 

[Equalisation]

Re: Reader catches ST reporters trying to portray PAP in good light over Palmer’s aff

ya, man! ...

hougangers muz repot 2 u wat dey want 2 say, man! ...

Gajah Muda, Agree.

This is horrendous !:o

 

[iamhere]

Re: Reader catches ST reporters trying to portray PAP in good light over Palmer’s aff

Hougangers never said onec that WP handled the issue well. You are delusional.

助李为孽， 其后人将世世为奴，代代为娼！！！！！！！！！

REMEMBER to

VOTE papees OUT


do yrself, yr forefathers and yr generations to come, a favor, a service and a long-awaited justice

 

[Picardo]

Re: Reader catches ST reporters trying to portray PAP in good light over Palmer’s aff

I prefer the term SCM (state-controlled media) to MSM.
o againste truth
Our SCM is no different from the so-called "MSM" in China, North Korea, Vietnam, Russia, Iran, Syria, Bahrain, Cuba.

In a fast-changing world, it may not take long for any controlled media to become increasingly known as rogue media, which will at best only be regarded as spurious "noise" in a world full of truth and sensibilty. The time is not as far as off as some think.

As babies grow up with iPads and media tablets right from the crib, Internet and social media will inevitably become, as it should be, the ultimate main stream media of the future. With open media, rogue elements and unethical reporters and such don't stand a chance against truth.

 

[Kohliantye]

Re: Reader catches ST reporters trying to portray PAP in good light over Palmer’s aff

That's right. Just look at their lumber ones in the past and present and the objective of the ST is crystal clear - PrataMan, Lim Kim San, KFC, Lee Boon Yang.

And our present 35% People's President, TTKY.

 

[ray_of_hope]

Re: Reader catches ST reporters trying to portray PAP in good light over Palmer’s aff

As babies grow up with iPads and media tablets right from the crib, Internet and social media will inevitably become, as it should be, the ultimate main stream media of the future. With open media, rogue elements and unethical reporters and such don't stand a chance against truth.

This assumes that the new generation of Sporns will be interested in politics and current affairs. I think this is a tad too optimistic.

 

[Char_Azn]

Re: Reader catches ST reporters trying to portray PAP in good light over Palmer’s aff

You shot yourself in the foot by your second last sentence. Do you know that or you are too dense to know that? You implied that all the things that the PAP did was solely motivated by the fact that they were afraid of being exposed, and it has nothing to do with honour, responsibility or courage; it has everything to do with damage control and damage control only.

I wasn't defending PAP. I was pointing out the article written to debunk the report was wrong. No where in my post did I mentioned anything about honor, only an idiot or the hardcore PAP will tell U otherwise.

I was comparing the way the 2 parties handled the matter. Both parties were forced into action. In YSL case, they kept keeping quiet and dragging this for 3 whole weeks and in the process missed at least 1 MPS before the sacking(Chinese article accused him of missing 2 MPS). Even after the sacking there was NOTHING official. Yaw never came out to clarify if the article involving him and multiple women were true or false, WP continue to play the We have no idea card. WP was forced to sack him to save face and Yaw literally fled the country. Given the almost exact same situation, Palmer came out, held a press conference, apologized and resigned yet still continue to hold his last MPS. All within 1 day vs WPs more than 3 weeks. For WP, a party that constantly accuse the PAP of being not open, they've certainly shown they are way way worse than the PAP in this respect. So what the article was accusing the report of doing was false on most account.

 

[Picardo]

Re: Reader catches ST reporters trying to portray PAP in good light over Palmer’s aff

You may be right there too. But as long as the media is not totally controlled like before, progress will be sure and inevitable. Don't forget the present generation, especially those many still within the 60.1%, have grown up ONLY with controlled media.

In any case, the previously very high percentage of conditioned minds are now left with only 60.1%, largely as a result of the unforeseen existence of Internet media.

This assumes that the new generation of Sporns will be interested in politics and current affairs. I think this is a tad too optimistic.

 

[jw5]

Re: Reader catches ST reporters trying to portray PAP in good light over Palmer’s aff

In a fast-changing world, it may not take long for any controlled media to become increasingly known as rogue media, which will at best only be regarded as spurious "noise" in a world full of truth and sensibilty. The time is not as far as off as some think.

As babies grow up with iPads and media tablets right from the crib, Internet and social media will inevitably become, as it should be, the ultimate main stream media of the future. With open media, rogue elements and unethical reporters and such don't stand a chance against truth.

The controlled media here will never get a really bad name world wide, not because they are really fair and unbiased in their reporting, but because of one very important factor.

That factor is the pap government's utmost concern of what other countries, particularly those in the first world think of them. There will never be a N Korea situation over here, because N Korea will say to hell what others think of us, whereas SG will never do that.

Why do you think SG and their past and maybe even a few present leaders have many good respectable friends worldwide? The reason is because they go to great lengths and great pains to project a good image of themselves and many things that really happen within the country are hence overlooked by the outside world because of that public relations/foreign affairs effort. It's certainly not because those respectable leaders from other countries are not bright or have poor judgement.

 

[Picardo]

Re: Reader catches ST reporters trying to portray PAP in good light over Palmer’s aff

True.

Hopefully, good will triumph over evil in time. But that may a require a global catastrophe to bring it about.

 

[zeddy]

Re: Reader catches ST reporters trying to portray PAP in good light over Palmer’s aff

Hougangers never said onec that WP handled the issue well. You are delusional.

As a Hougang resident since July 2011, I felt that WP handled the situation quite admirably.. Thats why we voted for WP and Mr Png in the Hougang BE..

 

[godiva]

Re: Reader catches ST reporters trying to portray PAP in good light over Palmer’s aff

As a Hougang resident since July 2011, I felt that WP handled the situation quite admirably.. Thats why we voted for WP and Mr Png in the Hougang BE..

as a punggol sme resident i m happy that teeko dishonorable despicable palmer has been removed. it is unthinkable that such a wolf in cloth has such low morale standards.

i will continued to vote for wp n hope more would do so.

 

[zeddy]

Re: Reader catches ST reporters trying to portray PAP in good light over Palmer’s aff

as a punggol sme resident i m happy that teeko dishonorable despicable palmer has been removed. it is unthinkable that such a wolf in cloth has such low morale standards.

i will continued to vote for wp n hope more would do so.

Well said.. Thank you for keeping faith with the Hammers..

 

[tanakow]

Re: Reader catches ST reporters trying to portray PAP in good light over Palmer’s aff

You forgot to take one thing into consideration; the PAP can make life difficult for Michael Palmer but the WP cannot do anything to Yaw other than sacking him. So Michael Palmer has no choice but to behave like a good boy appearing on TV contritely whereas Yaw could do what he wanted since he knew that his political career is over.

I wasn't defending PAP. I was pointing out the article written to debunk the report was wrong. No where in my post did I mentioned anything about honor, only an idiot or the hardcore PAP will tell U otherwise.

I was comparing the way the 2 parties handled the matter. Both parties were forced into action. In YSL case, they kept keeping quiet and dragging this for 3 whole weeks and in the process missed at least 1 MPS before the sacking(Chinese article accused him of missing 2 MPS). Even after the sacking there was NOTHING official. Yaw never came out to clarify if the article involving him and multiple women were true or false, WP continue to play the We have no idea card. WP was forced to sack him to save face and Yaw literally fled the country. Given the almost exact same situation, Palmer came out, held a press conference, apologized and resigned yet still continue to hold his last MPS. All within 1 day vs WPs more than 3 weeks. For WP, a party that constantly accuse the PAP of being not open, they've certainly shown they are way way worse than the PAP in this respect. So what the article was accusing the report of doing was false on most account.

 

[ray_of_hope]

Re: Reader catches ST reporters trying to portray PAP in good light over Palmer’s aff

You forgot to take one thing into consideration; the PAP can make life difficult for Michael Palmer but the WP cannot do anything to Yaw other than sacking him. So Michael Palmer has no choice but to behave like a good boy appearing on TV contritely whereas Yaw could do what he wanted since he knew that his political career is over.

Over many years the concept of the televised confession has appeared in various forms in Spore.
The purpose it serves is very obvious.

 

[Gigantspinosaurus]

You may be right there too. But as long as the media is not totally controlled like before, progress will be sure and inevitable.

In any case, the previously very high percentage of conditioned minds are now left with only 60.1%,

slow. too slow. that is what pap want. fall into trap again.

 

[Kinana]

Re: Reader catches ST reporters trying to portray PAP in good light over Palmer’s aff

Yaw and WP never apologised to the people yet.

 

[I_Hate_Pappies]

Re: Reader catches ST reporters trying to portray PAP in good light over Palmer’s aff

Hougangers never said onec that WP handled the issue well. You are delusional.

WP lost in the BE?

 

[freedalas]

Re: Reader catches ST reporters trying to portray PAP in good light over Palmer’s aff

I wasn't defending PAP. I was pointing out the article written to debunk the report was wrong. No where in my post did I mentioned anything about honor, only an idiot or the hardcore PAP will tell U otherwise.

I was comparing the way the 2 parties handled the matter. Both parties were forced into action. In YSL case, they kept keeping quiet and dragging this for 3 whole weeks and in the process missed at least 1 MPS before the sacking(Chinese article accused him of missing 2 MPS). Even after the sacking there was NOTHING official. Yaw never came out to clarify if the article involving him and multiple women were true or false, WP continue to play the We have no idea card. WP was forced to sack him to save face and Yaw literally fled the country. Given the almost exact same situation, Palmer came out, held a press conference, apologized and resigned yet still continue to hold his last MPS. All within 1 day vs WPs more than 3 weeks. For WP, a party that constantly accuse the PAP of being not open, they've certainly shown they are way way worse than the PAP in this respect. So what the article was accusing the report of doing was false on most account.

Let me give you the perspective of the majority of the people out there of how they see these 2 episodes.

Majority of the people out there are not netizens so you hardly know how they feel. To them the WP handled Yaw saga in a honorable way. It shows that LTK values Yaw as a very important member of his party and Hougang's residents a well as they regard MP as a very good one. LTK therefore felt that he cannot just simply sack Yaw without giving him a chance to clarify matters. And the fact that LTK was prepared to wait 2 weeks before taking action show how much he values Yaw and respect the wishes of his residents to ensure that he get a fair listening to. LTK was prepared to be smeared by the PAP controlled media as being indecisive but knew that was the only honorable thing to do. But at the same time, Yaw could not come forward as to do so would mean exposing the women that were involved. He would rather be branded as a coward or irresponsible than to betray the women.

On the other hand, the majority of the people felt that the way PAP handled Palmer was very telling of how i will disassociate itself from any form of trouble immediately without even considering how valuable the MP is to them and the constituents. To them Palmer was a Speaker of Parliament and a good MP as well. To so immediately cast him out speaks loudly of PAP as a party that does not value its own MPs and their contributions and are to be sacrificed to protect PAP's reputation. To them, this is a very selfish move. To them the word "comradeship" does not feature with the PAP. There's no gentleman's honour within the PAP and once its use for you is over, they will drop you like a fly.

Many forummers like you do not get to know how the people out there see things and prefer to rely only what the mouthpieces of the PAP write and worse still to regurgitate them.

 

[Dinosaur]

Re: Reader catches ST reporters trying to portray PAP in good light over Palmer’s aff

Why do you think SG and their past and maybe even a few present leaders have many good respectable friends worldwide?

A better reason is the following:

* with the US, Singaporean leaders promise to support every major US decision. It also promises to pass on every confidential information that it collects from its ambassadors worldwide to the US for decision-making. Why do you think Singapore supported the US in the latter's overthrow of the Saddam regime?

* with China, Pinky promises to help it prosper (more specifically to help Hu Jintao, Wen Jiabao, Xi Jinping and notably Bo Xilai, Gu Kailai enrich themselves and allow Singapore to be a conduit for their illegal money transfers to the US, Canada, Australia, UK, France, Germany)