Rape Molest Victims legally get Raped and Abused again in Court in front of the Judges and all spectators by the LAWYERS with Special Powers.

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‘Shut the gates’: Singapore judge criticises victim-blaming tactics in sexual offence cases​

Malay Mail
Mon, 21 July 2025 at 9:44 am GMT+8·2-min read

Malay Mail

Malay Mail
SINGAPORE, July 21 — High Court Judge Vincent Hoong criticised inappropriate cross-examination tactics during sexual offense trials in Singapore, citing examples where lawyers made degrading suggestions to victims, including telling a rape victim’s mother she “could have easily avoided” assault by crossing her legs.

In another disturbing case Hoong noted, a defence lawyer inappropriately stared at a molestation victim’s breasts and asked her to stand up to demonstrate potential “motive” for the assault based on her clothing, The Straits Times reported.

Hoong, who also serves as presiding judge of the State Courts, delivered these remarks during a keynote address to Singapore Academy of Law members at a private event held on July 2, with the speech subsequently published on the Singapore Courts website.

The judge said that courtrooms should not be battlegrounds and witness stands should not serve as arenas for humiliation, stating there is neither honour in extracting testimony through degradation nor skill in exploiting witnesses’ emotional vulnerability.

This judicial guidance follows Chief Justice Sundaresh Menon’s December 2024 emphasis on judges taking more active supervisory roles in managing sexual offence cases, particularly regarding how complainants give evidence.

New measures introduced in January include pretrial checklists designed to identify contentious issues, enabling judges to prevent irrelevant questioning during trials.

Hoong acknowledged that while robust cross-examination within proper bounds remains essential for fair defence representation, inappropriate questioning can become traumatising without proper sensitivity.

The judge specifically condemned questions that reinforce outdated victim-blaming notions, such as expectations that victims should physically resist attackers or immediately report crimes, calling such approaches gratuitously harmful and irrelevant.

Defence lawyer Luo Ling Ling, who represents clients accused of sexual offenses, supports protecting victims while vigorously defending clients, sharing her experience of learning to balance tough questioning with respectful tone after witnessing a victim’s emotional breakdown during cross-examination.

Luo said that while she would still ask necessary challenging questions in similar cases, she would now employ a gentler approach after realising the impact of her questioning style on a young victim who was testifying via camera.
 
https://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/shut-gates-singapore-judge-criticises-014459000.html
Malay Mail

‘Shut the gates’: Singapore judge criticises victim-blaming tactics in sexual offence cases​

Malay Mail
Mon, 21 July 2025 at 9:44 am GMT+8·2-min read

Malay Mail

Malay Mail
SINGAPORE, July 21 — High Court Judge Vincent Hoong criticised inappropriate cross-examination tactics during sexual offense trials in Singapore, citing examples where lawyers made degrading suggestions to victims, including telling a rape victim’s mother she “could have easily avoided” assault by crossing her legs.

In another disturbing case Hoong noted, a defence lawyer inappropriately stared at a molestation victim’s breasts and asked her to stand up to demonstrate potential “motive” for the assault based on her clothing, The Straits Times reported.

Hoong, who also serves as presiding judge of the State Courts, delivered these remarks during a keynote address to Singapore Academy of Law members at a private event held on July 2, with the speech subsequently published on the Singapore Courts website.

The judge said that courtrooms should not be battlegrounds and witness stands should not serve as arenas for humiliation, stating there is neither honour in extracting testimony through degradation nor skill in exploiting witnesses’ emotional vulnerability.

This judicial guidance follows Chief Justice Sundaresh Menon’s December 2024 emphasis on judges taking more active supervisory roles in managing sexual offence cases, particularly regarding how complainants give evidence.

New measures introduced in January include pretrial checklists designed to identify contentious issues, enabling judges to prevent irrelevant questioning during trials.

Hoong acknowledged that while robust cross-examination within proper bounds remains essential for fair defence representation, inappropriate questioning can become traumatising without proper sensitivity.

The judge specifically condemned questions that reinforce outdated victim-blaming notions, such as expectations that victims should physically resist attackers or immediately report crimes, calling such approaches gratuitously harmful and irrelevant.

Defence lawyer Luo Ling Ling, who represents clients accused of sexual offenses, supports protecting victims while vigorously defending clients, sharing her experience of learning to balance tough questioning with respectful tone after witnessing a victim’s emotional breakdown during cross-examination.

Luo said that while she would still ask necessary challenging questions in similar cases, she would now employ a gentler approach after realising the impact of her questioning style on a young victim who was testifying via camera.
I would like to invite @sbfuncle to comment on the fairness of this subject-matter using his patented art of clear-mindedness. :cool:
 
I would like to invite @sbfuncle to comment on the fairness of this subject-matter using his patented art of clear-mindedness. :cool:
I have not read the case in details.

But interm leeport from the title, can be found here :cool:
So proud Cantonese criminal dogs sons of prostitutes admitting to gang up rape me and then celebrate Christmas enjoy life. Dogs are like that no human conscience no morals no principles. Pui!
 
I would like to invite @sbfuncle to comment on the fairness of this subject-matter using his patented art of clear-mindedness. :cool:
After reading it.
If I apply my clear state of art mind,
Firstly I would assume here we are talking about rape/molest cases without concrete evidence eg semen, cctv etc.

Especially for molestation case without proof, and purely a one sided accusation, has always been in my clear mind, about how the judges can make their sentencings.

Eg a maid accusing employer for molestation

In tvb drama, in such cases, defence lawyer usually apply the"humiliation" techniques to make the victim kee siao, and hoping for a write off of the case.
However this is just a drama.

In real life, there isn't a need to be affected by these sorts of attacks.
If accused oar her cb, just say out loud in court, he oared my cb.

When the defence lawyer sees a clear and strong minded victim, they ownself will need to change their strategies

So for this thread case, it doesn't matter how the structure of questioning is conducted. If the judge finds it ileelavant, he should have the clear mind brain to stop the lawyer from continuing.

And on the victim side, just it out and there isn't a need to behave like a drama queen.
:cool:
 
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After reading it.
If I apply my clear state of art mind,
Firstly I would assume here we are talking about rape/molest cases without concrete evidence eg semen, cctv etc.

Especially for molestation case without proof, and purely a one sided accusation, has always been in my clear mind, about how the judges can make their sentencings.

Eg a maid accusing employer for molestation

In tvb drama, in such cases, defence lawyer usually apply the"humiliation" techniques to make the victim kee siao, and hoping for a write off of the case.
However this is just a drama.

In real life, there isn't a need to be affected by these sorts of attacks.
If accused oar her cb, just say out loud in court, he oared my cb.

When the defence lawyer sees a clear and strong minded victim, they ownself will need to change their strategies

So for this thread case, it doesn't matter how the structure of questioning is conducted. If the judge finds it ileelavant, he should have the clear mind brain to stop the lawyer from continuing.

And on the victim side, just it out and there isn't a need to behave like a drama queen.
:cool:
Is it alright for the defence lawyer to ask if the victim was a virgin prior to the alleged rape?

And if the victim wasn't, how many sexual partners she had had prior to the alleged rape?

@Boonsiong 你認為呢?
 
Is it alright for the defence lawyer to ask if the victim was a virgin prior to the alleged rape?

And if the victim wasn't, how many sexual partners she had had prior to the alleged rape?

@Boonsiong 你認為呢?

Legally cannot
But defence lawyer can chump-siong , with judge approval, to ask this question in the chamber.

All kaypoh-Chee and reporters must not listen to the above sensitive answer
 
Is it alright for the defence lawyer to ask if the victim was a virgin prior to the alleged rape?

And if the victim wasn't, how many sexual partners she had had prior to the alleged rape?

@Boonsiong 你認為呢?
The defence lawyer should use their professionalism when posting questions.
Becos at times those questions you mentioned should be asked while at times can be ileelevant.
At the same time, when a judge determines that it is not leelavant, he should issue yellow card to the lawyer.
Once it reaches say 3 yellow cards, he gets a red card and kick out of the court.
In this controlled manner, defence lawyer will not dare to luan luan Lai.

And state clearly the rule of the game to the lawyers even before any court hearings.

The victim can choose to answer, or don't answer, and wait for judge instructions before answering.
 
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Imagine 馬夫人 accused 喬峰 of rape when in reality it was a case [of] unrequited love.

馬夫人 is an out-and-out slut but pretends to be righteous and innocent. If 喬峰's lawyer is prohibited from examining 馬夫人's sexual history, the Court has no basis to form an opinion that she is a slut, and she might be out to frame 喬峰 because she was rejected.

And if it's 馬夫人's word against 喬峰's word, and if 喬峰's semen is found inside 馬夫人's body regardless of how 馬夫人 obtained his semen, then the entire case boils down to the issue of consent. If 馬夫人 said she told 喬峰 yameite yameite then the Court will convict 喬峰.
 
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Imagine 馬夫人 accused 喬峰 of rape when in reality it was a case unrequited love.

馬夫人 is an out-and-out slut but pretends to be righteous and innocent. If 喬峰's lawyer is prohibited from examining 馬夫人's sexual history, the Court has no basis to form an opinion that she is a slut, and she was out to frame 喬峰 because she was rejected.
What about maid accusing employer of molestation?
How does the judge make a conclusion and sentence the employer if a maid is out for leevenge?

Is it the Prosecutor need to cross examine the tikoness level of the employer?
 
What about maid accusing employer of molestation?
How does the judge make a conclusion and sentence the employer if a maid is out for leevenge?

Is it the Prosecutor need to cross examine the tikoness level of the employer?
And if it's 馬夫人's word against 喬峰's word, and if 喬峰's semen is found inside 馬夫人's body regardless of how 馬夫人 obtained his semen, then the entire case boils down to the issue of consent. If 馬夫人 said she told 喬峰 yameite yameite then the Court will convict 喬峰.
 
And if it's 馬夫人's word against 喬峰's word, and if 喬峰's semen is found inside 馬夫人's body regardless of how 馬夫人 obtained his semen, then the entire case boils down to the issue of consent. If 馬夫人 said she told 喬峰 yameite yameite then the Court will convict 喬峰.
That's for semen cases.
There were many molestation cases without semen whereby the subjects presented was only the employer and the maid.
Or is it those employer self own and admitted it?
 
That's for semen cases.
There were many molestation cases without semen whereby the subjects presented was only the employer and the maid.
Or is it those employer self own and admitted it?
You always start with the nature of the offence that he is charged. It's not about semen or not semen. The charge is rape, and if semen is present, then the only remaining issue is the woman's consent.
 
All roads lead to the AWARE feminazis. :cool:

Forum: Let’s stop blaming the victim for being raped​

March 27th, 2025
https://www.aware.org.sg/2025/03/stop-victim-blaming/

It is more appalling that Mr Chia Boon Teck defended himself by saying that he spoke as a criminal lawyer, when both Chief Justice Sundaresh Menon and Justice Vincent Hoong unequivocally stated last year in the High Court that the perpetuation of rape myths has no place in our justice system. Rape myths are untrue assumptions and beliefs about why rapes happen, focusing blame on the survivor.

 
Imagine 馬夫人 accused 喬峰 of rape when in reality it was a case [of] unrequited love.

馬夫人 is an out-and-out slut but pretends to be righteous and innocent. If 喬峰's lawyer is prohibited from examining 馬夫人's sexual history, the Court has no basis to form an opinion that she is a slut, and she might be out to frame 喬峰 because she was rejected.

And if it's 馬夫人's word against 喬峰's word, and if 喬峰's semen is found inside 馬夫人's body regardless of how 馬夫人 obtained his semen, then the entire case boils down to the issue of consent. If 馬夫人 said she told 喬峰 yameite yameite then the Court will convict 喬峰.

walan ... sky Pinkie 8 steps ah? That stupid 喬峰 hai gong ... should happy happy with the beautiful 馬夫人 and then collect Ah Chu and Ah Zhi to make big big happy family mah ... can make so many babies and no need to go potong convert .... he siao ah! :whistling:
 
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