Qing Dynasty China monoploy opium trade in British Empire

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Friend, you cannot put ALL history in one basket.

Look at Australia, Look at the whit did to the Abo 'Stolen Children generation' and finally the shitskin White admitted their wrong doing and apologize.

Apology Transcript


The Speaker of the House (Hon Harry Jenkins MP): The Clerk.

The Clerk: Government business notice number 1, Motion offering an apology to Australia's Indigenous peoples.

The Speaker: Prime Minister.

Prime Minister (Hon Kevin Rudd MP): Mr Speaker, I move:

That today we honour the Indigenous peoples of this land, the oldest continuing cultures in human history.

We reflect on their past mistreatment.

We reflect in particular on the mistreatment of those who were Stolen Generations - this blemished chapter in our nation's history.

The time has now come for the nation to turn a new page in Australia's history by righting the wrongs of the past and so moving forward with confidence to the future.


http://www.australia.gov.au/about-a...ople/apology-to-australias-indigenous-peoples

Now is the time to fuck the British to mad them apologize before they shut down their monarchy. Make The Queen apologize to the Chinese, Singapore, Straits Settlement and Borneo, And God Knows which other colonies did the Pommiese drugged them.



History is written and documented by whoever was victorious. If its was shameful, it was still (official) history, and today, accepted as fact - that it happened the way it was described. Too bad this isn't 1840 where we can see what actually happened. Most of what we know was recorded by British logbooks on their merchant ships. Even God cannot change history. So even if we see history through British eyes, it is what we have to see with. In any case, regarding Opium, this drug was already in demand by the upper class Chinese centuries before that period, it was the Brit smugglers who brought in cheap drugs (grown/cultivated in Patna and Benares, India) and flooded the Chinese streets with this cheap opium where everyone could afford to smoke and get stoned! I am sure the rickshaw pullers of the day were grateful that it as made more affordable! Let's party!!!

Cheers!
 
Not as big as the Kuomintang ahem I mean Green Gang ...

"With the fall of the Qing Dynasty in 1911 and the growth of drug addiction in China, criminal elements began moving into Shanghai's foreign concessions in great numbers. Since extraterritorial rights granted the Western powers were still in operation, Chinese living in these concessions were subject only to that particular concession's laws.

Among the many groups to exploit this situation was the 'Green Gang', which occupied the French concession and conducted its vice operations undisturbed by the French government. A Green Gang member named Du Yuesheng eventually unified all the gangs into a syndicate trafficking in drugs. Tu came to be known as the Opium King, and was one of three bosses who were referred to as the Big Three.

The Green Gang syndicate was a thriving organisation in 1927, when Guomindang troops and Communist contingents marched north on an expedition to rid the country of warlords. On his approach to Shanghai Chiang Kai-shek, who was anxious to rid himself of the Communists, contacted Du Yuesheng for help. Du responded by recruiting thousands from Shanghai's underworld. When the workers' unions closed down the city in a massive strike to honour Chiang's victory, the thugs swarmed out of the French concession and fell on Communists, labour union members and innocent bystanders alike. Thousands were slaughtered in this bloody massacre.

After gaining control of China, Chiang continued his association with the Green Gang. He enlisted the Big Three as honorary advisers to his government and named Du Yuesheng a major general in the army. The drug traffic went on unabated not only in China, but as far away as the United States, where Shanghai heroine was being distributed by the Mafia.

In 1937, when Japan launched her invasion of China, the Guomindang retreated to Chongqing in Sichuan province. Although to all appearances Chiang and the Japanese militarists were at war, a great deal of trade took place between the invaders and the Nationalist Government; much of this traffic involved opium.

Japan had made opium a basic source of her revenue in the occupied territories. Chiang (with the help of Du Yuesheng) supplied the drug to Japan. Vast fields of red, pink and white poppies covered the foothill districts of Sichuan and Yunnan provinces, and great opium shipments travelled down the Yangzi to Shanghai, or over the Burma road to Southeast Asia.


After the Japanese defeat, civil war between the Guomindang and the Communists resumed. As the Communists swept south to Shanghai, the Green Gang and other criminal syndicates fled to Hong Kong; the Guomindang escaped to Taiwan. The People's Republic of China was founded.

By this time, there were literally millions of addicts in the country. The new government immediately set about coping with the monumental problem. Peasants were persuaded to plough in their opium crops and sow wheat or rice instead. Neighbourhoods were mobilised in a massive educational programme. The street committees which governed the neighbourhoods held study groups in which the evils of opium and heroin were discussed. Families of known addicts were educated not to blame their addict members, but to encourage them to seek help. Addicts themselves were impressed by the fact that they were not blamed for their addiction, since they were considered victims of foreign governments and other enemies of the people. After their cure, they were given training and then placed in paying jobs. Many of them were hired by the government to work with other addicts.

At the same time, pressure was placed on the dealers. Those who surrendered were accepted by the community, re-educated, trained for meaningful work and given jobs. The rest were packed off to prison, and the worst offenders were executed. By 1956, the People's Republic of China had virtually eliminated its drug problem.

From time to time, the Taiwan press has accused the People's Republic of smuggling opium across the border of Yunnan province into Southeast Asia. Such accusations are particularly curious in the light of the well-publicised fact that most of the opium traffic in these countries is carried on by remnants of the Guomindang forces. Fleeing across the border at the time of the Civil War, these forces expanded the cultivation of opium and monopolised the traffic until now they are known as the opium barons of the region.

As for any smuggling from Yunnan, the Shan tribesmen of the Burma hill countries - who know all the mountain trails - deny this vigorously. Some of the Shans are anti-Communists who have been employed as spies by the CIA. Between 1962 and 1967, these people penetrated deep into China's Yunnan province on espionage missions. They reported that legitimate agricultural crops were being grown in places where formerly there had been extensive poppy fields. But of poppy cultivation, they saw not a trace."

http://www.sacu.org/opium.html


Mao Zedong and the CCP were big producer of opium. from Jiangxi–Fujian Soviet to Shaanxi Yan'an, the CCP central command and their local forces grew and sold opium to finance their operations. according to Soviet representative to Yan'an, Peter Vladimirov in his book ( the Yan'an diaries ). he discovered that the CCP forces grew opium and sold them to Japanese-occupied Chinese territories during the 2nd Sino-Japanese war. he questioned Mao Zedong about it, and the latter acknowledged it. according to Mao. it was not an honorable thing but he really had no choice, they badly needed the money and the opium profits were good. that's the typical example of the CCP hypocrisy in its history. they condemned the warlords for growing and selling opium to poison Chinese people but they did the same things as them, even worse
 
40-70 million Chinese died under the inferior leadership of Chinese communist party. No wonder other Asian countries look down on China, even the Japanese are at disbelief, because CCP claimed Japanese killed 20 million and yet the CCP killed their own people 2x to 3x population through starvation, fanime and inferior leadership.
 
Not as big as the Kuomintang ahem I mean Green Gang ...

In 1937, when Japan launched her invasion of China, the Guomindang retreated to Chongqing in Sichuan province. Although to all appearances Chiang and the Japanese militarists were at war, a great deal of trade took place between the invaders and the Nationalist Government; much of this traffic involved opium.

Japan had made opium a basic source of her revenue in the occupied territories. Chiang (with the help of Du Yuesheng) supplied the drug to Japan. Vast fields of red, pink and white poppies covered the foothill districts of Sichuan and Yunnan provinces, and great opium shipments travelled down the Yangzi to Shanghai, or over the Burma road to Southeast Asia.


I highly doubt that the KMT Chongqing government openly or secretly allowed the growth of opium in Sichuan let alone sold it to the Japanese occupied territories in China then. Warlord Long Yun controlled Yunnan during wartime. Chiang nor the KMT had little control or influence over Long Yun's doings. it is said Long Yun had maintained secret contacts and dealings with the Japanese and Puppet forces behind the KMT's back throughout the war. so if there was an active opium trade in Yunnan then, Long Yun was the force behind it, not Chiang's KMT.
 
You are right about it. Opium is cheap source of product with 2000% profit for the British which could fund ally types of R&D industrial revolution development and expansion.

in the case of Mao he was performing 三国演义 to rebuild a poor and ruined China. Mao did not continue to use opium to destroy China, NOT the way British did to China in such a large scale never been before in the history of humanity of drugging a nation.

The Pommies wanted to build USA and drug money was cheap money to fund USA at the expense of Chinese China and trade opium for over 30 years in China (2 opium wars 1836 and 1852.) Then they went on to target SEA Straits Settlement, Singapore and Borneo to continue monopoly their drug trade.

British destroyed 150 years of Asia with drug trade.

What say you?


during the 2nd Sino-Japanese war, the CCP used the good profits from the opium trade to buy weapons from the puppet forces. they used those weapons to fight and destroy the KMT forces, not the Japanese occupiers. those opium were sold in Japanese occupied China to poison the minds of Chinese people and made them weak. Mao Zedong and CCP had no moral high ground to stand on before or after 1949.
 
The British were amongst the most humane foreign conquerors. The chinks should thank their lucky stars that when the Brits finally left, their chink colony was amongst one of the wealthiest cities in the world with amongst the highest living standards.

The chinks themselves would have burn and looted any places they conquered. Go read some chink history before ranting at the Brits.

The other famous foreign conquerors like the Turks, Spanish, Mughals, French, Belgian, Mongol, Arabs, Niggers were much worse. All of them have recorded history of looting, killing and enslaving on massive scale. The colonies they left behind mostly fell into civil war and chaos once there was a power vacuum.

Be grateful. Suck some British cock!


Good job my fellow chinese dog. We chinks are the most brutal of all.
 
If this is your argument, then LKY PAP also trade opium when he was government from 1959. He banned opium in 1968. So he had a few good years as a drug dealer handed down by the Pommies.


during the 2nd Sino-Japanese war, the CCP used the good profits from the opium trade to buy weapons from the puppet forces. they used those weapons to fight and destroy the KMT forces, not the Japanese occupiers. those opium were sold in Japanese occupied China to poison the minds of Chinese people and made them weak. Mao Zedong and CCP had no moral high ground to stand on before or after 1949.
 
during the 2nd Sino-Japanese war, the CCP used the good profits from the opium trade to buy weapons from the puppet forces. they used those weapons to fight and destroy the KMT forces, not the Japanese occupiers. those opium were sold in Japanese occupied China to poison the minds of Chinese people and made them weak. Mao Zedong and CCP had no moral high ground to stand on before or after 1949.

I have never known of a single chink leader to have the moral high ground. All of them had little scruples and have ordered the slaughter and enslavement of civilians and subordinates.
 
Re: Qing Dynasty China monoploy opium trade in British Empireen

You might have strong resentment toward to the Brits, but many Asians (including the yellow-skinned ones) look-up, adore, and even worship Brits. One example is David Beckham. And everytime the F1 Grand Prix comes to this part of the world, just look at how the media sings praises of these F1 drivers, like Jenson Button and Lewis Hamilton, making gods out of them. And British rock bands sell out fully everytime they play here. How do you want them to apologise?

It looks like Asians this part of the world still glamorise the British Monarch. If there are people against them, try looking at the white population in Oz, Canada, and NZ. Some are demanding that the queen be removed from their currency, and the Union Jack be removed from their nation' flag. And its go nothing to do with Opium or any drug, but national pride and loyalty.

Cheers!

.............Now is the time to fuck the British to mad them apologize before they shut down their monarchy. Make The Queen apologize to the Chinese, Singapore, Straits Settlement and Borneo, And God Knows which other colonies did the Pommiese drugged them.
 
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