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PRC's 5G fighter jet J20 higher specificatin than F-22

longbow

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1) It is unlikely that the J20 can match American hardware. So article is sensational. For 40 years CIA kept saying that the USSR was that much more powerful and that spurred US military spending.
2) In military race no one cares about copying. The Americans got their entire rocket/space program/Saturn V from captured German scientists. If the wanted to develop that technology in house (re invent the wheel) they would not have won the space race and be the first to put man in the moon. So everyone is out there trying to copy the best available technology.

3)The big race now is in space. Why do you think the Chinese are putting up their own GPS system. Or why do you think India is trying to develop their own launch vehicle. Because in a conflict, the first to go would be the satellites and countries need to be able to have a reliable way to replace these sats.

Just imagine if someone at the dawn of civilization patent the wheel. Does that mean that the world world would have to delay progress so as not in infringe on that technology?

In the arms race what matters is $, size of sophistication of the mfg industries - from high tech steel to gears to carbon fibre technology, etc.

For the Chinese, it is the matter of time before they get their own jet engine (they are putting $$ into the program and there is no lack of smart Chinese engineers). After that the learning curve will not be as steep and their progress will be rapid.
















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red amoeba

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the US have only themselves to blame for lagging behind (if they eventually do)...their defense budget is contrained...the once Space War project is as good as dead.

they are continuing to rely on their aircraft carriers to project their power - but if reports are true, China can at least sink one of them....if that really happen, the psychological blow is tremendous.

Whilst China, due to their political system, can spend infinite sum of money into R&D...its no surprise that they can build something...

If they can send a man into space...what can they not do?
 

hairylee

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The F22 with an American Pilot will blow this idiot PRC junk out of the sky. US already working on next generation technology.

The Americans are laughing at the PRC idiots.

The Americans always have superior technology but I still could not figure out how they lose the Vietnam War.
 

longbow

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I think when you move into 5G fighters, most will look alike given the aerodynamics. Kind od like subs - they all look alike.
 

Faidenk

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Never under-estimate the PRC like the high speed train where the West and Japs took more than 30 years to develop but China only takes 6 years!Whatever sour grapes you would want to say like copying or stealing ,who care? More important is to get strong at the shortest time!Cheers.

Siemens technology. That's how Chinese they are.
 

lurpsexx

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Never under-estimate the PRC like the high speed train where the West and Japs took more than 30 years to develop but China only takes 6 years!Whatever sour grapes you would want to say like copying or stealing ,who care? More important is to get strong at the shortest time!Cheers.

Seems like lotsa Pro China fanboys here... :rolleyes:

Copying only gets u this far... its the creativity and enterprise that puts others ahead of you..

China will always lag behind others, until they themselves start to nurture creativity into their genes...

Tough, considering how Chinaman are in the first place... Moral-less, unethical and pure mercenary.. Having Face thru shameless-ness means Nothing! :oIo:
 

eatshitndie

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The Americans always have superior technology but I still could not figure out how they lose the Vietnam War.

too much politics and political correctness in the u.s. otherwise, if the u.s. went all out genocidal in vietnam, there wouldn't be vietnamese commies left to fuck.
 

ivebert

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Specs???


Let's talk when you managed to get it out of prototype phase!

Cheebye chinese want to show off somethign they haven't made!

You have to accept that no other country can beat my country in military technnology although japan has the best subs
 

wikiphile

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Specs???


Let's talk when you managed to get it out of prototype phase!

Cheebye chinese want to show off somethign they haven't made!

You have to accept that no other country can beat my country in military technnology although japan has the best subs

I beg to differ, the Germans have always been the best in non-nuclear attack Submarine technology and still are

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_212_submarine
 

mako65

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The chinese discovered the gun-powder but it's the Americans who invented the Gatling machine guns!!! That's the greater evil...hahaha! Ok, got to go back to the grinder..gd day, folks!
 

pallkia

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It is German technology. (Levitation).

I think you still need to do more homework,I am talking about the conventional wheelled high speed train which I have been taking all this while.............

Of course the levitation train is also long anticiapted by the German that once the Chinese purchased it for the short route from Pudong aiport to the suburb,they will learn and copy it.Again,who care?
 

pallkia

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Seems like lotsa Pro China fanboys here... :rolleyes:

Copying only gets u this far... its the creativity and enterprise that puts others ahead of you..

China will always lag behind others, until they themselves start to nurture creativity into their genes...

Tough, considering how Chinaman are in the first place... Moral-less, unethical and pure mercenary.. Having Face thru shameless-ness means Nothing! :oIo:

I agree with you and I encourage you to continue what you have been thinking...Cheers.

Meanwhile,China is continuing to master the skills of all the top technologies of the World by copying or stealing or learning .........and the worst of your nightmare is their GDP per capita is leaping forward in stunning speed and a lot of anti Chinese like you are getting frustrating day by day.....................Cheers and Happy New Year ,Long Live the Chinese race...........
 

nkfnkfnkf

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It is a matter of time that even 3rd world states like NK & Iran can invade continental US with much success, but only with low tech conventional arms and US is unable to defend. Why? Because they are broke and unable to afford to up keep their expensive complicated toys any more. US toys require more frequent and complicated and expensive maintenance than any other countries. They have no money. Like the ex-Soviets when pocket is empty and stomachs are hungry, war machines wears out and breaks down - permanently.

The NASA have no money to replace the space shuttles which lifespan are expired in few months. The whole fleet will be gone like their exploded Challenger. Pantagon (not NASA) will have a tiny and small quantity replacement unable to do the same job.

The US govt is out of money even to conduct expensive medical executions that death sentenced inmates are kept alive.

What cheap toys did they use these days in place of expensive supercomputers? The PRC made recently the world's fastest supercomputers. Pentagon have to settle with playing Sony Playstations! Because the Pentagon can afford only US$2million!

Any PAP minister can easily afford to have the same supercomputer at home like what Pentagon just bought! Any PRC universities can also afford 1 or 2 of these! :biggrin:

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...ry-supercomputer/story-e6frep1o-1225977029861

PS3 consoles become military supercomputer

* From: NewsCore
* December 28, 2010 8:27AM
* 3 comments

Sony Playstation 3 (PS3)

A PlayStation 3 (PS3) console waiting to become a supercomputer / Image supplied

US Air Force researchers have created the Defence Department's largest interactive supercomputer - the 35th fastest in the world - from 1760 Sony PlayStation 3s.

The amalgamation of consoles, nicknamed the "Condor Cluster," will be used to "process high-resolution satellite images and boost surveillance capabilities" according to The Air Force Times.

It will allow scientists to monitor a 15.5-mile area in real time.

Mark Barnell, director of the Air Force Research Laboratory at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio - where the computer was unveiled earlier this month - said that the computer is also capable of reading 20 pages per second with up to 30 percent of the characters removed and recovering all the words without error.

The "Condor Cluster" is energy efficient and at $US2 million, has a price tag well below that of traditional computing equipment.


"We're striving hard to make affordable and constrained systems, where they can really use them and make a difference," Mr Barnell said, adding that it is thought to be the seventh "greenest" computer in the world.

The "Condor Cluster" can achieve about 1.5 GigaFLOPS - floating point operations per second, the unit by which supercomputing power is measured - per watt of computing power, about fifteen times more powerful than a typical supercomputer.

"We have quite a few research and development efforts working on those kind of applications to do confabulation and prediction and that will open up a variety of areas which could help with a lot of other efforts and a lot of the areas in which the Air Force would like to go," Mr Barnell said.
 

lurpsexx

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Meanwhile,China is continuing to master the skills of all the top technologies of the World by copying or stealing or learning .........and the worst of your nightmare is their GDP per capita is leaping forward in stunning speed and a lot of anti Chinese like you are getting frustrating day by day.....................Cheers and Happy New Year ,Long Live the Chinese race...........

Having money in your pocket while openly shitting by the roadside don't make u more human than the dog beside you..

The Chinese (and their fanboys) are like zombies; lunging towards materialism without any shred of humanity.. and of course without any grey matter to boot...
 

lurpsexx

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It is a matter of time that even 3rd world states like NK & Iran can invade continental US with much success, but only with low tech conventional arms and US is unable to defend. Why? Because they are broke and unable to afford to up keep their expensive complicated toys any more. US toys require more frequent and complicated and expensive maintenance than any other countries. They have no money. Like the ex-Soviets when pocket is empty and stomachs are hungry, war machines wears out and breaks down - permanently.

The NASA have no money to replace the space shuttles which lifespan are expired in few months. The whole fleet will be gone like their exploded Challenger. Pantagon (not NASA) will have a tiny and small quantity replacement unable to do the same job.

The US govt is out of money even to conduct expensive medical executions that death sentenced inmates are kept alive.

What cheap toys did they use these days in place of expensive supercomputers? The PRC made recently the world's fastest supercomputers. Pentagon have to settle with playing Sony Playstations! Because the Pentagon can afford only US$2million!

Any PAP minister can easily afford to have the same supercomputer at home like what Pentagon just bought! Any PRC universities can also afford 1 or 2 of these! :biggrin: [

Obviously u are not one who keeps up with the latest developments..

Pls read up ur history texts and the military forums before proclaming the East is no longer "a weak man"....

Would you pay $100k to get a car when a $20k one will work as well?? Efficiency rules, and not FACE... The exception to this rule is the 25cents bullet that the chink commies use to execute their prisoners point blank, before gutting the poor man for his organs.... At least the Americans try to be more humane....

Damn! the chinks are sprouting like flies!!
 

nkfnkfnkf

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Obviously u are not one who keeps up with the latest developments..

Pls read up ur history texts and the military forums before proclaming the East is no longer "a weak man"....

Would you pay $100k to get a car when a $20k one will work as well?? Efficiency rules, and not FACE... The exception to this rule is the 25cents bullet that the chink commies use to execute their prisoners point blank, before gutting the poor man for his organs.... At least the Americans try to be more humane....

Damn! the chinks are sprouting like flies!!

humane so what? can not survive!
 
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