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PLA launched 2 huge new warships simultanously on eve of 2020 to make 2019 an ultra strong naval growth figure, US Navy Shrinking!

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Already during 2019 Chinese Naval Fleet Strength surpassed US Navy Fleet Numbers by about 2.5 dozens of warships. Leading US Navy not only by numbers are also by Average MUCH NEWER MUCH MODERN & ADVANCED LEVEL of Technology & Combat Strength. This is not the only area of victory, in terms of Rocket Army ICBM nuke and anti-stealth HGV nuke warheads & quantum communication plus supercomputer Chinese already put Americans further & further behind in the dust. No hope no chance to catch-up nor regain any advantages. They are permanently defeated. Chinese Army strength had been stronger in numbers over US for about 70 years, even with PLA army down sizing, still stronger than US Army, Army tanks and armored combat vehicles and missiles beats US Army up side down and inside out.


https://mil.news.sina.com.cn/china/2019-12-31/doc-iihnzhfz9486163.shtml


港媒:中国又下水2艘神盾舰 美却在削减军舰数量

港媒:中国又下水2艘神盾舰 美却在削减军舰数量



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香港亚洲时报网站30日刊文称,中国在年底前再次下水两艘驱逐舰,而美国却在压缩舰艇数量。军事专家认为,中国的造舰速度反映了其工业能力和建设一支强大海军的决心。文章编译如下:
中国在年底前再次下水一艘055型驱逐舰和一艘052D型驱逐舰。专家们说,此举是中国在造船方面的一项巨大成就。
据报道,在拖轮的帮助下,这两艘装扮整齐的驱逐舰27日上午驶离一个注满水的船坞,停泊至附近泊位。这两艘下水的舰艇分别是中国第六艘055型导弹驱逐舰和第23艘052D型导弹驱逐舰。
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▲图片来源:香港文汇报
一位军事专家29日说:“中国的造舰速度反映了其工业能力和建设一支强大海军的决心。”这名专家认为,相关造船厂是中国海军装备的发展基础。
与此同时,据美国《防务新闻》周刊报道,美方提议对其海军造船项目和作战序列进行一系列压缩。该周刊获得了白宫行政管理和预算局给国防部的一份备忘录,其概述了大幅削减美海军“阿利·伯克”级驱逐舰项目的计划,在未来数年砍去12艘拟建驱逐舰中的5艘。
上述备忘录还从2021财年预算中砍去一艘“弗吉尼亚”级Block V型潜艇,把原计划建造两艘减少为一艘。备忘录还放缓了针对FFG(X)导弹护卫舰计划的采购步伐,2021年和2022年将仅订购一艘,而非原计划的每年订购两艘。
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▲“阿利·伯克”级驱逐舰资料图(维基百科)
这一规划对作战编制的压缩更为明显。美国海军加快了四艘巡洋舰的退役进程,并计划让首批四艘濒海战斗舰提前十几年退役,还计划让三艘船坞登陆舰早早退役。
与此相对,前述专家表示,如果一切进展顺利,27日下水的两艘中国驱逐舰可能在大约两年后进入海军服役。
055型驱逐舰是中国首款万吨级导弹驱逐舰,拥有包含112个发射单元的垂直发射系统。排水量较小的052D型驱逐舰拥有64个垂直发射单元。这两款舰艇均被视为世界级舰艇,具有出色的侦察、防空和反舰能力。
大连造船厂今年5月10日下水了中国第19艘和第20艘052D型驱逐舰。2018年7月,中国第三艘和第四艘055型驱逐舰也在这里下水。
上述专家说,按照常规的舰艇建造流程,过去两年下水的这些军舰很可能在未来一至三年内逐步加入中国海军。这位专家指出,由于有了这些新舰艇,到2021年,中国海军实力将显著增强,能够捍卫中国的主权和海外利益。
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▲资料图片:中国海军航母编队在海上航行。


Hong Kong media: China launches two more Aegis ships, but the US is reducing the number of warships


Hong Kong media: China launches two more Aegis ships, but the US is reducing the number of warships



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The Hong Kong Asian Times website reported on the 30th that China launched two destroyers again before the end of the year, while the United States was reducing the number of ships. Military experts believe that China's shipbuilding speed reflects its industrial capabilities and determination to build a strong navy. The article is compiled as follows:

China again launched a Type 055 destroyer and a Type 052D destroyer before the end of the year. Experts say the move is a huge achievement for China in shipbuilding.

According to reports, with the help of tugboats, the two well-dressed destroyers left a water-filled dock on the morning of the 27th and anchored to a nearby berth. The two launched ships are China's sixth 055 guided missile destroyer and the 23rd 052D guided missile destroyer.

▲ Photo source: Hong Kong Wen Wei Po

A military expert said on the 29th: "China's shipbuilding speed reflects its industrial capabilities and determination to build a strong navy." The expert believes that the relevant shipyard is the basis for the development of Chinese naval equipment.

At the same time, according to the US "Defense News" weekly report, the United States proposed a series of compression of its naval shipbuilding projects and operational sequences. The weekly received a memorandum from the White House Administration and Budget Office to the Department of Defense outlining plans to significantly reduce the US Navy's "Arleigh Burke" destroyer program, cutting off 12 of the proposed destroyers in the coming years. 5 ships.

The above memorandum also cut a "Virginia" Block V submarine from the FY2021 budget, reducing the originally planned construction of two to one. The memorandum also slowed the pace of procurement for the FFG (X) missile frigate program, which will only order one in 2021 and 2022 instead of two as planned each year.

▲ "Arleigh Burke" class destroyer information map (Wikipedia)

This plan has made the compression of combat preparation even more obvious. The US Navy has accelerated the decommissioning process of four cruisers, and plans to retire the first four littoral combat ships more than ten years in advance. It also plans to retire three dock landing ships as early as possible.

In contrast, the aforementioned experts said that if all goes well, the two Chinese destroyers launched on the 27th may enter the navy after about two years.

The Type 055 destroyer is China's first 10,000-ton guided missile destroyer and has a vertical launch system with 112 launch units. The smaller displacement 052D destroyer has 64 vertical launch units. Both ships are considered world-class ships with excellent reconnaissance, air defense and anti-ship capabilities.

Dalian Shipyard launched China's 19th and 20th 052D destroyers on May 10 this year. In July 2018, China's third and fourth Type 055 destroyers were also launched here.

The experts said that according to the conventional ship building process, these warships launched in the past two years are likely to gradually join the Chinese Navy in the next one to three years. The expert pointed out that with these new ships, by 2021, the Chinese navy's strength will be significantly enhanced and it will be able to defend China's sovereignty and overseas interests.

▲ Profile picture: The Chinese Navy aircraft carrier formation is sailing at sea.
 

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中国今年第10艘神盾舰下水 052D加长型已交付(图)

中国今年第10艘神盾舰下水 052D加长型已交付(图)



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第1艘052D型改进型已经交付
2019年即将过去,国产驱逐舰仍然是好消息不断,又1艘052D改进型驱逐舰下水,它已经是2019年下水第10艘国产盾舰。与此同时,人民海军也接收了第1艘052D改进型驱逐舰,国家水面舰艇在快车道上不断向前发展。
此前国产驱逐舰主要搭载直-9、卡-28反潜直升机设计的,加上要控制吨位和成本,所以直升机起降甲板偏短,起降长度较小的直-9、卡-28没有问题。不过直-9、卡-28两型反潜直升机战术技术指标相对落后,难以与现代先进安静型核潜艇相抗,所以海军研制了直-20舰载直升机,它的战术技术指标已经可以与MH-60R相媲美,将是2020年之后海军主力舰载直升机,但是直-20长度比直-9、卡-27都要大,在国产驱逐舰上面起降显得比较局促,因此海军和舰船工业对052D进行了改进,加长了直升机甲板,以方便直-20直升机起降。
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052D驱逐舰直升机起降甲板相对较短
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它主要用来起降直-9舰载直升机
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搭载直-20可能就有点捉襟见肘
从相关图片我们可以看到,052D改进型只是单纯加长甲板,没有改变舰艇线型。这样好处就是设计比较简单,难度较小,对于舰艇影响也比较小,当然缺点就是甲板长度比较有限。不过用来起降直-20舰载直升机已经绰绰有余。这种改进还有一个好处,那就是现役舰艇改装比较方便,此前国产052D型驱逐舰已经建造了13艘、052C型也有6艘,这些舰艇都可以在中修的时候升级为加长型。
第1艘052D改进型驱逐舰服役之后,人民海军盾舰数量已经增加到23艘,包括1艘055型、13艘052D、1艘052D改进型、6艘052C型、2艘051C型驱逐舰。这些舰艇能够满足组建两支航母编队的需要。山东舰服役之后,人民海军航母数量增加到2艘,升级为双航母海军,现代海战航母需要护航舰艇才能执行任务,所以航母数量增加,对于护航舰艇提出了更高要求。
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海军需要组建更多的航母编队
根据海外资料,国产航母还在继续发展之中,这样意味着我们将组建更多的航母编队,需要更多的护航舰艇。另外第1艘国产两栖攻击舰已经在2019年下水,人民海军可能还会组建两栖打击群,后者也需要一定数量护航舰艇。现在国产驱逐舰建造工作可以用热火朝天来形容,2019年达到了惊人的10艘,包括2艘055型、8艘052D改进型驱逐舰,已经可以组建一个航母编队。
这样截止到2019年底,052D系列驱逐舰建造数量达到23艘,055驱逐舰也达到6艘,这个数字还在增加,按照这个趋势,外界普遍认为人民海军会在2025年之前再组建1个航母编队,2025-2030年左右组建第4个航母编队。并且还有一定舰艇配合两栖攻击舰组建两栖打击群,人民海军整体作战能力将会向前再迈进一大步。
2025年之后,第1艘052C型驱逐舰服役已经超过20年,现代水面舰艇服役期限一般在30年左右,因此2025年之后需要考虑新一代通用驱逐舰,它与052D系列相比,可能会采用一系列新技术,包括隐身、综合射频、综合信息处理等等,性能更好,能够进一步增强海军航母编队作战能力。(作者署名:小飞猪观察)


China's 10th Aegis ship launches 052D extended version has been delivered (Figure)


China's 10th Aegis ship launches 052D extended version has been delivered (Figure)



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The first 052D improved model has been delivered

2019 is about to pass. The domestic destroyer is still good news. Another 052D improved destroyer is launched. It is already the 10th domestic shield ship launched in 2019. At the same time, the People's Navy also accepted the first 052D improved destroyer, and the national surface ships continued to develop on the fast track.

Previously, domestic destroyers were mainly designed with Z-9 and K-28 anti-submarine helicopters. In addition to controlling tonnage and costs, the helicopter took off and landing decks were short, and the Z-9 and K-28 had shorter take-off and landing lengths. However, the tactical technical indicators of the Zhi-9 and Ka-28 antisubmarine helicopters are relatively backward, and it is difficult to resist the modern advanced quiet nuclear submarines. Therefore, the Navy has developed the Zhi-20 shipborne helicopter, and its tactical technical indicators can already match the MH-60R. Comparable, it will be the main naval ship-borne helicopter after 2020, but the length of the straight -20 is larger than that of the straight -9 and Ka-27. The take-off and landing on domestic destroyers is more cramped, so the Navy and the shipbuilding industry carried out the 052D. Improvements have been made to lengthen the helicopter deck to facilitate the take-off and landing of a straight -20 helicopter.

052D destroyer helicopter has relatively short take-off and landing decks

It is mainly used to take off and land straight-9 carrier helicopter

Carrying a straight -20 may be a bit stretched

From the relevant pictures, we can see that the 052D improved model is just a simple extension of the deck, and does not change the line type of the ship. The advantage is that the design is simpler, the difficulty is less, and the impact on the ship is relatively small. Of course, the disadvantage is that the deck length is relatively limited. However, the take-off and landing straight -20 carrier helicopter is more than enough. This improvement also has the advantage that it is more convenient to modify the active-duty ships. Previously, there were 13 domestic 052D destroyers and 6 052C. These ships can be upgraded to extended types during intermediate repairs.

After the service of the first 052D improved destroyer, the number of People's Navy shield ships has increased to 23, including 1 055, 13 052D, 1 052D improved, 6 052C, and 2 051C destroyers. These ships can meet the needs of forming two aircraft carrier formations. After the Shandong ship entered service, the number of People's Navy aircraft carriers increased to two, and the aircraft carrier was upgraded to a dual-carrier navy. Modern naval aircraft carriers need escort ships to perform their missions, so the number of aircraft carriers has increased, and higher requirements have been placed on escort ships.

Navy needs to build more aircraft carrier formations

According to overseas data, domestic aircraft carriers are still developing, which means that we will form more aircraft carrier formations and need more escort ships. In addition, the first domestic amphibious assault ship has been launched in 2019. The People's Navy may also form an amphibious strike group, which also requires a certain number of escort ships. Now the construction of domestic destroyers can be described as hot and hot, reaching a staggering 10 in 2019, including 2 055 and 8 052D improved destroyers, and it is already possible to form an aircraft carrier formation.

In this way, as of the end of 2019, the number of 052D series destroyers reached 23 and the number of 055 destroyers reached 6. This number is still increasing. According to this trend, it is widely believed that the People's Navy will set up another aircraft carrier formation by 2025. 2025 -The fourth aircraft carrier formation will be established around 2030. In addition, there are certain ships that cooperate with amphibious assault ships to form amphibious strike groups, and the overall combat capability of the People's Navy will take a big step forward.

After 2025, the first 052C destroyer has been in service for more than 20 years. The service life of modern surface ships is generally about 30 years. Therefore, after 2025, a new generation of general destroyers need to be considered. Compared with the 052D series, it may use a series of New technologies, including stealth, integrated radio frequency, integrated information processing, etc., have better performance and can further enhance the combat capabilities of naval aircraft carrier formations. (Author's signature: Xiaofei Pig Observation)
 
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