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JohnTan

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Not insufficient. It's a detailed follow up of do's and hows.

Because we don't want to end up singing, dancing and speaking in tongues in church and call that worship.

If you need to use additional sources of religious scriptures beyond the quran, it simply means your quran is insufficient regardless whether you deny it or not. You don't need a follow up book if your first book is complete.

There are some moslem groups who agree with me and have gone full quran only, rejecting the hadiths and sunnah.
 

Loofydralb

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If you need to use additional sources of religious scriptures beyond the quran, it simply means your quran is insufficient regardless whether you deny it or not. You don't need a follow up book if your first book is complete.

There are some moslem groups who agree with me and have gone full quran only, rejecting the hadiths and sunnah.
Then how do they know exactly what to recite and actions to do during worship as Quran gives the orders to worship.
The Quran then instructs how to worship by following the prophet's example.

Both of which are totally absent in Christianity.
You sing dance chants burn. All of which Jesus never did.
 

JohnTan

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Then how do they know exactly what to recite and actions to do during worship as Quran gives the orders to worship.
The Quran then instructs how to worship by following the prophet's example.

Both of which are totally absent in Christianity.
You sing dance chants burn. All of which Jesus never did.

Your quran is incomplete or insufficient. Hence moslems need additional religious advice from the various hadiths and sunnah. Even moslems don't deny it. What's wrong with you?
 

Loofydralb

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Your quran is incomplete or insufficient. Hence moslems need additional religious advice from the various hadiths and sunnah. Even moslems don't deny it. What's wrong with you?
The instructions from the Quran is complete.
If all the hadis were burnt and no longer in anyone's memory, then we follow what is purely in the Quran.
We'll end up dancing singing chanting burning idolising polythyeisting, like you.
 

JohnTan

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The instructions from the Quran is complete.

If they really were, moslems wouldn't be needing the hadiths.

If all the hadis were burnt and no longer in anyone's memory, then we follow what is purely in the Quran.

If the hadiths were burn, moslems will be screaming and rioting. Really idol worship of their arabic tales like how they idolise that silly stone.

And which quran you referring to? Got so many different versions.

We'll end up dancing singing chanting burning idolising polythyeisting, like you.

Sounds pretty much like what moslems have already been doing. You didn't see your moslem hajj videos?

 

JohnTan

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Then how do they know exactly what to recite and actions to do during worship as Quran gives the orders to worship.
The Quran then instructs how to worship by following the prophet's example.

According to moslem scholars, you need the hadith or sunnah. Otherwise, whatever version of the quran you use means jackshit.

One of the primary problems of attempting to follow only the Qur'ān is that without any assistance or background from the Sunnah, the Qur'ān loses its meaning. Many of the Qur’ānic injunctions concerning prayer, pilgrimage, and commercial transactions require clarification.

https://yaqeeninstitute.org/read/paper/are-hadith-necessary
 

Loofydralb

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According to moslem scholars, you need the hadith or sunnah. Otherwise, whatever version of the quran you use means jackshit.

One of the primary problems of attempting to follow only the Qur'ān is that without any assistance or background from the Sunnah, the Qur'ān loses its meaning. Many of the Qur’ānic injunctions concerning prayer, pilgrimage, and commercial transactions require clarification.

https://yaqeeninstitute.org/read/paper/are-hadith-necessary
Right. That's why we don't want to be like the christian churches who now say LBGT is ok.
 
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