Philippine SWAT Team storm bus with hostages in Manila

[Maximilian Chua-Heng]

I am pro-life, so killing even one person to me is already the absolute wrong thing to do.

As I've said let's not judge too early.

The Greater China media were totally flabbergasted how botched the rescue job was by the Manila City SWAT team. Is there more than meets the eye? I'd go as far to say that Mendoza was driven to kill the hostages. Mendoza had threatened to do a tell-it-all about the corruption in the police force.

Things turned ugly when he knew his demands were denied and saw his brother roughly handled by the police. That's not how you deal with a hostage-taker. You appease him, not piss him off.

With more than 1000 people attending his funeral, either his town folks viewed him as a martyr for a cause (ie speaking up against corruption) and for the decent deeds he'd done before this hostage crisis as a police officer, or they were absolutely mad.

I do not think he intended to kill from the start. I wanted to know what hidden forces drove him to kill.

Let's wait for the truth to surface (if ever).

Errrmm excuse me.......a well-respected ex-policeman taking hostages?????
Is that your definition of a policeman who is well-respected?


Is'nt it wrong to take hostages in the first place, for whatever the reason is??
Don't need the law or whatever to tell you it is wrong.

When this Mendoza yahoo decides to take hostages for his own personal gain, he is doing it at the expense of those tourist onboard the bus.
What has those innocent tourists done to deserve the stress-cum-loss lives of being taken hostages?

 

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Filipino domestic workers react as they pray for the Hong Kong tourists who were killed in the Manila tourist bus hostage standoff during a solemn assembly in Hong Kong Sunday, Aug. 29, 2010.​

 

[Velma]

For a country that allows protests, he could have just held protests and get everybody's attention.

 

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Hong Kong to stage march over Philippines hostage bloodbath
By Peter Brieger (AFP)

HONG KONG — Tens of thousands are expected to join a rally in Hong Kong on Sunday to demand justice for victims of the Manila hostage bloodbath, as the city's Filipino community holds an all-day memorial.

The rally, which organisers said could draw as many as 50,000 people, will be a rare show of unity among Hong Kong's pro-Beijing and opposition groups which are jointly staging the march.

"It is a cross-party rally. The main theme is to express our condolences to those who died in this tragedy and call on the Philippine government to conduct a full, fair and independent investigation," Albert Ho, chairman of the city's Democratic Party, told AFP.

Tempers have flared in Hong Kong over the Philippine government's handling of the hostage standoff in Manila, which left eight Hong Kong tourists dead, while the city's Filipino community has voiced fears of retribution.

There are as many as 200,000 Filipinos living in Hong Kong, the vast majority working as low-paid female domestic helpers.

Sunday's events follow a memorial for the Manila siege victims attended by the city's Chief Executive Donald Tsang.

The rally starts at 3 pm (0700 GMT) while Filipino groups are staging a day-long event nearby with a candlelight vigil at 6 pm (1000 GMT).

A Facebook site to remember the victims of last Monday's hostage-taking has attracted thousands of signatures, and a flood of criticism aimed at the Philippine government.

Critics have cast doubt on whether Manila's probe would be impartial.

"None of the survivors has been asked to give an account of the event. The investigation report is bound to be one-sided and unconvincing," lawmaker Cheung Man-kwong told AFP on Friday.

The ama began when disgraced ex-policeman Rolando Mendoza, armed with an assault rifle, hijacked a busload of Hong Kong tourists in an apparent bid to win his old job back and be cleared of extortion charges.

Eight tourists and the gunman were killed in the final stages of the 12-hour ordeal, when ill-equipped police launched an assault on the bus as the events were broadcast live around the world.

A Philippine police spokesman said initial findings from their investigation showed that the bullets that killed the tourists likely all came from Mendoza's weapon and not from the police rescue team.

However he said the police probe was still ongoing, and further results were needed from ballistics tests.

Hong Kong's government said Thursday that the city's coroner had ordered autopsies for all eight victims, which may lead to an official inquiry.

But Hong Kong coroner's court did not have the authority to compel the Philippine police to testify or hold them accountable for mistakes, critics say.

Five senior Manila policemen who took part in the assault have been suspended as a probe into the bungled rescue operation intensifies. Their commanding officer also took leave.

Scores of relatives and friends turned out for the gunman's funeral on Saturday with Beijing expressing outrage after his coffin was draped with a Philippine flag.

Manila said it had been placed on the coffin by Mendoza's family and was later removed

 

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A Filipino performance stands next to a banner reading 'To all HK people we Filipinos mourn with you! Peace be with you!' with his face wrapped with plastic with the words 'Love' and 'Justice' written on it in solidarity with the Hong Kong families of the victims of the bloody hostage-taking incident at Quirino Grandstand in Manila on August 29, 2010.​

 

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Filipino domestic workers react as they pray for the Hong Kong tourists who were killed in the Manila tourist bus hostage standoff during a solemn assembly in Hong Kong Sunday, Aug. 29, 2010.​

This is much better. Not like those the nurses, school children and police posing with smiles - lack of respect for the dead.

Thanks for the photos.

 

[jw5]

Things turned ugly when he knew his demands were denied and saw his brother roughly handled by the police. That's not how you deal with a hostage-taker. You appease him, not piss him off.

With more than 1000 people attending his funeral, either his town folks viewed him as a martyr for a cause (ie speaking up against corruption) and for the decent deeds he'd done before this hostage crisis as a police officer, or they were absolutely mad.

I do not think he intended to kill from the start. I wanted to know what hidden forces drove him to kill.

Let's wait for the truth to surface (if ever).

Even if Mendoza was innocent of the charges that caused him to be sacked as a policeman, he had 3 options:

1. Accept it and do nothing.
2. Use legal channels to try and get reinstated.
3. Use illegal means to try and get reinstated.

The first question is why did he choose option 3. Perhaps he couldn't take it, hence option 1 is out. Perhaps he felt that there would never be a fair investigation, hence option 2 is out.

Which brings the second queston why he chose to take innocent people as hostages instead of going after his superiors or the committee which supposedly sacked and framed him. Perhaps he felt that going after a soft target will get him what he wanted. His superiors and the people in the committee would probably be armed or have bodyguards. He might be killed even before he got close to them. Or if he went after them or their families, he knew that he would never be reinstated but going after innocents? He might have a chance.

He may have done good work in the past and he may have been wronged by his superiors. But by going after innocent people, whether with the initial intention to kill or not, this coward is no better than a terrorist.

 

[Man With Seven Scars]

Even if Mendoza was innocent of the charges that caused him to be sacked as a policeman, he had 3 options:

1. Accept it and do nothing.
2. Use legal channels to try and get reinstated.
3. Use illegal means to try and get reinstated.

The first question is why did he choose option 3. Perhaps he couldn't take it, hence option 1 is out. Perhaps he felt that there would never be a fair investigation, hence option 2 is out.

Which brings the second queston why he chose to take innocent people as hostages instead of going after his superiors or the committee which supposedly sacked and framed him. Perhaps he felt that going after a soft target will get him what he wanted. His superiors and the people in the committee would probably be armed or have bodyguards. He might be killed even before he got close to them. Or if he went after them or their families, he knew that he would never be reinstated but going after innocents? He might have a chance.

He may have done good work in the past and he may have been wronged by his superiors. But by going after innocent people, whether with the initial intention to kill or not, this coward is no better than a terrorist.

He can always choose to protest in such a democratic nation like the Philippines.

 

[Devil Within]

Even if Mendoza was innocent of the charges that caused him to be sacked as a policeman, he had 3 options:

1. Accept it and do nothing.
2. Use legal channels to try and get reinstated.
3. Use illegal means to try and get reinstated.

The first question is why did he choose option 3. Perhaps he couldn't take it, hence option 1 is out. Perhaps he felt that there would never be a fair investigation, hence option 2 is out.

Which brings the second queston why he chose to take innocent people as hostages instead of going after his superiors or the committee which supposedly sacked and framed him. Perhaps he felt that going after a soft target will get him what he wanted. His superiors and the people in the committee would probably be armed or have bodyguards. He might be killed even before he got close to them. Or if he went after them or their families, he knew that he would never be reinstated but going after innocents? He might have a chance.

He may have done good work in the past and he may have been wronged by his superiors. But by going after innocent people, whether with the initial intention to kill or not, this coward is no better than a terrorist.

Good post! I can't believe that there are forumers here having the idiotic mentality of those retarded pinoys of finding excuses for that murderer ex-cop.

Whatever honour or good reputation that ex-cop had, goes down the drain when he decided to take innocent lives for whatever reason.

 

[Maximilian Chua-Heng]

No one here of sound mind will condone Mendoza's act of murder, regardless of whatever circumstance.

1000 retarded Pinoys attending Mendoza's funeral? I am not convinced.

The Greater China media has been bombarding the Manila City SWAT team and its higher-ups. Something fishy is going on here if one just looked at how sorry the 12-hour rescue operation was.

Good post! I can't believe that there are forumers here having the idiotic mentality of those retarded pinoys of finding excuses for that murderer ex-cop.

Whatever honour or good reputation that ex-cop had, goes down the drain when he decided to take innocent lives for whatever reason.

 

[Maximilian Chua-Heng]

http://www.asianoffbeat.com/default.asp?Display=844

And also the most corrupt country in Asia.

For a country that allows protests, he could have just held protests and get everybody's attention.

 

[Rogue Trader]

1000 retarded Pinoys attending Mendoza's funeral? I am not convinced.

If you work with these people you will know that is not their unexpected behaviour. They are drama mamas. They worship all forms of heroism, sacrifice, freedom from oppression. In a country where so many have so little, the underdog is always right. And the establishment is always evil.

 

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A man holds a Philippine and Chinese flag as thousands of people take to the streets to show their anger and condolences after the Manila bus hostage crisis, in Hong Kong on August 29, 2010. Anger and grief mounted this week after a busload of Hong Kong tourists was hijacked in Manila on August 23 by a sacked policeman armed with an assault rifle in a bloody siege watched live around the world.​

 

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People prepare to take to the streets to show their anger and condolences after the Manila bus hostage crisis, in Hong Kong on August 29, 2010.​

 

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Philippine President Benigno Aquino III leads the commemoration of National Heroes Day with a wreath-laying ceremony at the Tomb of Unknown Soldier Monument in Libingan ng mga Bayani at Fort Bonifacio, Taguig City, Metro Manila August 29, 2010.

Philippine President Benigno Aquino III salutes the tomb of the unknown soldiers during ceremony to honor the country's heroes at the Heroes Cemetery at suburban Taguig city, east of Manila, Philippines Sunday Aug. 29, 2010, a national holiday. Aquino's parents, assassinated opposition Sen. Benigno Aquino Jr. and democracy icon, the late President Corazon Aquino were both declared heroes.​

 

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Relatives pray for their departed loved ones at the Heroes Cemetery where Philippine President Benigno Aquino III led a wreath-laying ceremony at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier in honor of the country's heroes in Taguig city, east of Manila, Philippines Sunday Aug. 29, 2010.​

 

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Thousands of people take to the streets to show their anger and condolences after the Manila bus hostage crisis, in Hong Kong on August 29, 2010.​

 

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Legislators from representing all of the the local political parties take to the streets to show their anger and condolences after the Manila bus hostage crisis, in Hong Kong on August 29, 2010.​

 

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Filipino women attend a solemn assembly as they mourn victims who died during a bus hijacking in the Philippines earlier this week, at the Hong Kong's financial Central District August 29, 2010​

 

[Devil Within]

Something fishy is going on here if one just looked at how sorry the 12-hour rescue operation was.

It is quite clear that those in charge of the "rescue operation" wanted Mendoza dead regardless the safety of the hostages. And it is quite obvious that this may have everything to do with the corruption that Mendoza is trying to expose.

However, Mendoza is no hero when he put innocent lives in jeopardy for whatever "great cause" he may has.

The thousands of retarded pinoys attending his funeral is no different from those retarded sympathizers who support those religious extremist who kill innocent lives for their great religious cause. All are retards just the same.

The corruption in Philippines are prospering because the pinoys allowed it to prosper. If the pinoys had the brains and courage to come together, they can stamp out corruption if they really wanted it to stop. It is the same in any society and in any country. Corrupted practice and tyranny exist when the majority do nothing to correct it. But when the majority are brave enough to do something about it, changes will come, be it for good or for bad. History are full of these examples. Regardless of country or religion.