PER CAPITA Manufacturing (value added)

[Nice-Gook]

I assure you that it is still possible, and is done all the time. I’m not speaking from theory eithe.

Yup , you are 100% right ...I indeed know it’s not only possible it’s happening all the time , me too talking from real experience as well

but I am saying is not that easy for novices to pull it of so easily , like simply by switching documents and etc. That’s all

 

[Nice-Gook]

That explains everything as sinkie has free trade agreement with all the biggest economies.from China, India, US, EU, TPPA, Canada, korea you name it. Thise countries with no free trade will use sinkie as their export base and automatically, marketing and trading office so money remains in sinkie and onky operations cost remitted back home.

That’s another way to skin the cat , which large MNCa does that all that time

 

[CharKuayTeow]

Yup , you are 100% right ...I indeed know it’s not only possible it’s happening all the time , me too talking from real experience as well

but I am saying is not that easy for novices to pull it of so easily , like simply by switching documents and etc. That’s all

Yes, its not just a case of switching documents, that would be the dumb way to do things!

 

[CharKuayTeow]

Yes, its not just a case of switching documents, that would be the dumb way to do things!

i very much doubt that there is even minimal assembly working going on. About 6 months ago, I went through the detailed calculations necessary to move some stuff from China to Singapore to do final assembly. After taking into account US import tariffs, stuff assembled in Singapore was only about 12% cheaper than just shipping directly from China. And this did not even figure the cost of operations (rent, etc.) in Singapore, just labour alone.

Singapore just isn’t viable as manufacturing base anymore. We’d much rather set up in Malaysia, Thailand, or Indonesia from a cost perspective.

 

[Nice-Gook]

Yes, its not just a case of switching documents, that would be the dumb way to do things!

But such value added exports by merely switching documents did happened at the initial stage till someone blew the whistle and importing countries started imposing more and more restriction ...but mostly such restrictions were imposed by additional supporting papers and businesses became more creative by manufacturing such papers too to prove that goods exported were indeed value added , some countries imposed inspection by third parties such as SGS

I had myself switched documents hundred of times but mostly Bill of Ladings as I had chartered many a ships by Charter Party agreement , even where the law states especically there cannot be 2 sets of Bill of Ladings for the same goods , shipping agents had issued me another before the arrival of original documents through banks ...but all these are speaking French to asshole @ mudhatter as he knows nuts about the very topic he created

 

[Nice-Gook]

i very much doubt that there is even minimal assembly working going on. About 6 months ago, I went through the detailed calculations necessary to move some stuff from China to Singapore to do final assembly. After taking into account US import tariffs, stuff assembled in Singapore was only about 12% cheaper than just shipping directly from China. And this did not even figure the cost of operations (rent, etc.) in Singapore, just labour alone.

Singapore just isn’t viable as manufacturing base anymore. We’d much rather set up in Malaysia, Thailand, or Indonesia from a cost perspective.

I was not into manufacturing hence I would be little lost here

 

[syed putra]

i very much doubt that there is even minimal assembly working going on. About 6 months ago, I went through the detailed calculations necessary to move some stuff from China to Singapore to do final assembly. After taking into account US import tariffs, stuff assembled in Singapore was only about 12% cheaper than just shipping directly from China. And this did not even figure the cost of operations (rent, etc.) in Singapore, just labour alone.

Singapore just isn’t viable as manufacturing base anymore. We’d much rather set up in Malaysia, Thailand, or Indonesia from a cost perspective.

Don't forget having trading operations in Singapore means you get to pay less in taxes than say in China.

 

[CharKuayTeow]

Don't forget having trading operations in Singapore means you get to pay less in taxes than say in China.

That’s the role HK still plays. Singapore is more expensive in all areas for trading ops.

 

[mudhatter]

@ mudhatter

Wah lan eh ! So this punk speakaths in so many words of mere nothings !

I was right all along just a wee small boy trying to show himself with a big balls ; larger than himself or his know how in business

and look at his language , “ you should look at the difference between value added manufacturing and manufacturing ,“ same meaning but more words “ Oh yeah ! To a moron calling him a moron or oxymoron does have the same meaning , of course

‘he who knows not and that he knows not and yet he know not is a fucking fool , so let him wallow in his stupidity ,so said LKY misstress

but folks , let me explain, now if you take a tree from your backyard and make it into a furniture and say export it to the moon than its classified as exports

suppose , you don’t have any fucking trees but need to import it from JB , and made a furniture and export it to Venus , is it a value added export since you only add a value from an import from JB ? Noooo , it’s still your export since you add a lots lots of value

suppose than you import a furniture from JB but you only repackage it in a carton or wooden box , is that your value added export ? No lah ! Because the value you add is nothing much so it’s really a re export

so what then is the difference between an export and value added export or re export

this is where the world trade organisation agrees upon what is a value added export and what is merely re export

in short , in order to qualify as a value added export , certain minimum , at least say 30 % of the cost of production must be local ...than it becomes a value added product

but , of course to a inbred idiotic oxymoronic assholes of ignormous all these are spoken in Africansus ,

just trying to fit himself into a larger shoes than his baby feet could

fucking retard.

who the in the fucking hell are you talk down to me?

Imbecile.

Oxymorons have nothing to do with morons, you moron.

Blabber mouth blathering idiot.

Look up the definitions first.

Your IQ has not reached double digit yet, when it does, come back to me.

And who in the fucking hell talked about manufacturing export, you nitwit.


This quote that you made up;

“ you should look at the difference between value added manufacturing and manufacturing ,“

does not even exist.

Who in the fucking hell wrote that? It was YOU.

What I wrote was different.

Go look it up. When your IQ reaches triple digits, that is, come back and report.

 

[mudhatter]

Transfer pricing.

Suppose you are a Chinese company trying to evade US duties or evade currency controls in China. Set up a paper company in Singapore and sell goods to it at just above cost. Then resell via your Singapore company at actual market value and accumulate your profits in Singapore.

Singapore operation could be “adding value” by just receiving bulk packed goods and repackaging for retail sale. Or it could be doing minimal assembly. Or it could be flashing firmware that turns $10 PCBA into $700 ventilator control system.

Nah.

That does not turn it into manufacturing.

More like, trade. Retail and wholesale trade.

The added value would be in trade.

Happens in all countries.

Wholesalers sell a product to retailers at $100, retailers sell at $120, let's say, then that $20 mark up is profit of the retailer and added-value, but that added-value is in trade. Wholesale and retail trade. Not in manufacturing.

Manufacturing value added, or simply manufacturing, counts only manufacture.

Which ventilator exactly uses a $700 ventilator control? From a $10 PCB?

I also think the wafer fabs in Northcoast, Woodlands, Tampines, Pasir Ris are real. Do you? Or you think the wafer fabs are imported from Tiongkok and counts as 'transfer pricing'?



Looking at some of the responses in this thread made me realize the socio-economic composition of this forum better. Quite a lot of nitwits here, the not so well to do, the not so well informed, the not so knowledgeable and intelligent segment of society - the riff-raffs the taxi drivers the security guards if you like, comingling here apparently.

Explains why average IQ is so low approaching CECA level.

Does Tuas biomedical park count as transfer pricing?

Or Seletar aerospace park? count as transfer pricing?

Or jurong island? or showa denko hard disk media manufacturing?

Of course stinky chinks are dumb as rock, like all slanties but perhaps more so, and that's why you see no stinky MNC. Most are foreign MNC. But that doesn't change the fact. That manufacturing is done in stinkypura.

Unless you think hard disk media is also made in tiongkok and re-packaged in stinkypura (wtf! how the hell do you re-package hard disk media? ) and re-sold (to whom exactly? to thai? to tiongs themselves? ).

 

[mudhatter]

That explains everything as sinkie has free trade agreement with all the biggest economies.from China, India, US, EU, TPPA, Canada, korea you name it. Thise countries with no free trade will use sinkie as their export base and automatically, marketing and trading office so money remains in sinkie and onky operations cost remitted back home.

That explains re-exports or trade.

That can not explain manufacturing.

The moron in question talks about textiles.

When was the last time stinkypura exported textiles?



This thread is good.

It helped me realize one thing - the socioeconomic status of most members here. The IQ levels (in double digits or single digit, for one member at least), the socioeconomic standing, the intelligence and their intellectual sophistication.

These morons keep talking about exports.

This thread topic is not exports.

The fact that I have to explain this, in detail, also explains a few things about the intellectual capacities of quite a few members in this forum.

I must say, as dumb as stinky chinks are, the average stinky chink is still more intelligent than the average sammyboy.com member. Or other stinky forum members.

You can say this thread has effectively served as a proxy IQ test of sorts.

 

[mudhatter]

i very much doubt that there is even minimal assembly working going on. About 6 months ago, I went through the detailed calculations necessary to move some stuff from China to Singapore to do final assembly. After taking into account US import tariffs, stuff assembled in Singapore was only about 12% cheaper than just shipping directly from China. And this did not even figure the cost of operations (rent, etc.) in Singapore, just labour alone.

Singapore just isn’t viable as manufacturing base anymore. We’d much rather set up in Malaysia, Thailand, or Indonesia from a cost perspective.

What exactly did you import from Tiongkok?

Thailand or Indonesia often does not compete in the same space.

This tells me you are probably talking of some low tech product.

What exactly are you talking about? Which product did you import from Tiongkok?

Assembly is not manufacturing anyway.

Thanks for the laugh though.

Most members in the forum are indeed the riff-raffs, as they would say, of stinkypura. As dumb as stinkypura chinks are, most are not this dumb as we have seen in this forum.

 

[mudhatter]

But such value added exports by merely switching documents did happened at the initial stage till someone blew the whistle and importing countries started imposing more and more restriction ...but mostly such restrictions were imposed by additional supporting papers and businesses became more creative by manufacturing such papers too to prove that goods exported were indeed value added , some countries imposed inspection by third parties such as SGS

I had myself switched documents hundred of times but mostly Bill of Ladings as I had chartered many a ships by Charter Party agreement , even where the law states especically there cannot be 2 sets of Bill of Ladings for the same goods , shipping agents had issued me another before the arrival of original documents through banks ...but all these are speaking French to asshole @ mudhatter as he knows nuts about the very topic he created

Yeah right.

Who the fuck talked about exports?

It was you.

The fucking retard. Whose business is in textiles.

I talked about manufacturing.

What a moron.

The riff raffs of society talk about switching documents and trying to sound snarky.



What a joke.

When your IQ hits double digit, come back and rejoin the discussion, imbecile.

 

[mudhatter]

I was not into manufacturing hence I would be little lost here

Now you are talking.



An imbecile riff-raff whose only trade was cheating and stealing, with little knowledge IQ or education, talks rot coz he thinks, he thinks not that he actually knows or understands, but he thinks he knows and understands the topic of discussion.



Manufacturing value added has nothing to do with your shady business.

Explains quite well why you keep talking nonsense and exports.

Re-exports of stinkypura is pretty huge.

But there is also NODX and ODX.

Yet that is not the topic of discussion.

The topic is manufacturing.

Finally, you have come to admit, you have no experience knowledge or understanding of manufacturing.

 

[mudhatter]

That’s the role HK still plays. Singapore is more expensive in all areas for trading ops.

Yup.

That's why Stinkypura manufacturing value added is 20 times greater than Hongkies'.

Explain that to the single digit IQ moron @Nice-Gook

 

[CharKuayTeow]

What exactly did you import from Tiongkok?

Thailand or Indonesia often does not compete in the same space.

This tells me you are probably talking of some low tech product.

What exactly are you talking about? Which product did you import from Tiongkok?

Assembly is not manufacturing anyway.

Wow, everybody else is right. You really don't know what you are talking about. Manufacturing isn't just waving a magic wand and pulling stuff out of thin air. Somebody or something has to assemble the items.

For the record, we are not importers, we make stuff that ends up in automobiles, container ships, etc. Modern manufacturing is a long chain process, goods move from one specialist company to another as it is made. Nobody, including Boeing, Mercedes Benz, etc. make or design everything themselves. The seat you have in a car is supplied as a subassembly, where it is assembled in a factory. So by your definition, Boeing, etc. are not manufacturers.

 

[CharKuayTeow]

Which ventilator exactly uses a $700 ventilator control? From a $10 PCB?

I also think the wafer fabs in Northcoast, Woodlands, Tampines, Pasir Ris are real. Do you? Or you think the wafer fabs are imported from Tiongkok and counts as 'transfer pricing'?

A ventilator could be something that exhausts air from a toilet, but it could also be a medical device. In this case, I mean a medical device that costs upwards of $2000 each.

As for wafer fab, you need to take a trip to Taiwan and look around. Then you'll have a better understanding of scale. What large wafer fabs look like, and what "many" means.

 

[mudhatter]

Wow, everybody else is right. You really don't know what you are talking about. Manufacturing isn't just waving a magic wand and pulling stuff out of thin air. Somebody or something has to assemble the items.

For the record, we are not importers, we make stuff that ends up in automobiles, container ships, etc. Modern manufacturing is a long chain process, goods move from one specialist company to another as it is made. Nobody, including Boeing, Mercedes Benz, etc. make or design everything themselves. The seat you have in a car is supplied as a subassembly, where it is assembled in a factory. So by your definition, Boeing, etc. are not manufacturers.

I think you quoted the wrong post.

But I liked your post anyway.



Too many double digit IQ members.

Nvm it's still fun. Maybe, it's fun precisely because of that.

 

[CharKuayTeow]

The topic is manufacturing.

Finally, you have come to admit, you have no experience knowledge or understanding of manufacturing.

Nice-gook understands exactly what is going on.

 

[mudhatter]

A ventilator could be something that exhausts air from a toilet, but it could also be a medical device. In this case, I mean a medical device that costs upwards of $2000 each.

As for wafer fab, you need to take a trip to Taiwan and look around. Then you'll have a better understanding of scale. What large wafer fabs look like, and what "many" means.

Which medical ventilator exactly uses a $700 ventilator control? And using a $10 PCB?

Again, who the fuck cares about Taiwan.

You think the wafer fabs in Stinkypura are imported from Tiongkok, or Taiwan if you insist, or are real?