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Pappy old dog pushing for 10m population

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Singapore must plan for 10M population: Ex-HDB chief



Christine Tan
10 Jul 2015
CNBC




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Commuters stand inside a train at the Tanjong Pagar MRT station during rush hour in Singapore.




Singapore must start planning for a population that could possibly hit 10 million, Liu Thai Ker, the man often credited as the architect of modern Singapore, told CNBC.

The bold number suggested by Liu, who served as the chief executive of the Housing Board from 1979 - 1989 and then as CEO and chief planner of the Urban Development Authority from 1989 - 1992, is nearly double the current 5.3 million population and significantly higher than the 6.9 million figure proposed by the Singapore government in its 2013 Population White Paper.

In the white paper, the government described its vision of raising the country's population by as much as 30 percent in the next two decades to ensure the economy remains dynamic. However, the move sparked strong objections amid rising discontent in the land-scarce nation over soaring housing costs and an influx of immigrants.

But Liu stands by his theory, saying that population growth is pivotal to Singapore's future.

"One fundamental thing about urban planning is, don't try to stop or control or curb population growth," Liu, who is now chairman at the Centre for Liveable Cities and senior director at RSP Architects Planners and Engineering, said.

"We should allow Singapore to grow and plan for a much bigger population… like 10 million people. We should ask ourselves: How long do we want Singapore to remain as a sovereign country? Even at 10 million people and assuming a population growth rate of 1 percent, we will only last slightly over 100 years and that's not a long time," he added.

The country, which is battling worrying demographic changes, also needs immigrants to keep its economic engines running. With a fertility rate of only 1.2, far below the replacement rate of 2.1 and one of the lowest in the world, an ageing population would lead to profound problems for Singapore, the country's Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said at a conference earlier this month.

Liu agrees: "Being such a tiny place, there is a propensity toward homogeneity of ideas and concepts. For us to nurture a creative society, we need people from outside. In fact, one of the reasons why Singapore could succeed was because we were a heterogeneous society at the beginning, with people from all over the world."

But even as population numbers accelerate, Singapore's achievements in urban development and innovation must be maintained.

"We must continue to keep the city green and attractive for businesses, as well as good talent to come," Liu told CNBC.

Lessons from Singapore

Apart from being well-known as a 'garden city' where flora and fauna is weaved into the urban fabric, the stability and efficiency of Singapore's urban infrastructure serves as a role model for many developing nations.

To emulate the success of the Southeast Asian city-state, governments in these developing countries will need to take the lead, according to 77-year-old Liu.

"It may not sound democratic in a Western sense but in Asia or even Africa, the government must play a big role when there's a great need for development. Because if you leave it to the businesses or private sector, they will inevitably focus more on the business side of things."

For that reason, it is imperative that government leaders educate themselves on urban development, the architect-planner added.

"Leaders must be humble enough to learn what makes a good city. Mr Lee understood what made a good city from his days in Cambridge, but he spent all his life learning from urban success stories," said Liu, referring to Singapore's founding father Lee Kuan Yew.

"Leaders must also be ruthlessly rational... and I often explain to foreign dignitaries that the highest authority in Singapore is something called the truth. The Prime Minister and President will listen [even if it was] a lowly civil servant who said the truth. That, to me, is an important aspect of Singapore's success story."

Liu retold the story of Lee 's decision to construct low-cost flats in high-rise buildings - known as HDBs - even though such high-density housing was condemned by experts in the 1960s. Towering skyscrapers have since become a symbol of the nation's successful public housing strategy and urban landscape.

"We must subscribe to 'clarity equals courage.' It is not good enough to have courage and charge ahead blindly. it is also not good enough to just follow the world. You need to think what your city needs and have the courage to move ahead even [if it is] against the world's trends," he added.

Lee Kuan Yew was Singapore's first and longest-serving prime minister, who oversaw Singapore's transformation from a sleepy British colonial outpost into a global metropolis within a single generation. He died on March 23 at the age of 91.



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This old dog's angmoh wife & kids are safely settled down in Perth and of course even a 15m or 20m population would not affect him.

I also believe he is promoting the 10m population for personal interest.... his personal stake in Peter's Lim's Rowsley JB development.
 
Bullocks! Have you seen how animals behave in an over crowded environment?
 
perhaps there's hope for sinkie uncles. instead of driving taxis, they can work as people-pusher platoon commander. white gloves for pushing male buttocks, red gloves for cupping female booties.
 
Has he taken up Australian citizenship or is he still a Sporean:confused:

They should make him stay in the HDB heartlands & see if he sings a different tune.
 
this lau farter's nephew is the infamous slim 10 guy who destroyed pierre png's chup cheng wife liver
 
'Architect of modern Singapore'... is he going to get a state funeral too? :rolleyes:
 
Bullocks! Have you seen how animals behave in an over crowded environment?

By the time 10 million population becomes a reality, he'll probably be ash and compost already. Maybe his 'sloppy seconds' ang moh wife too. ;)

These elites live in the splendidly isolated gated communities, they won't mix with peasants. Peasants are nothing more than statistics and cattle to them.
 
He can talk rot as he won't be affected. By the time pop hits 10m, he's either 6 ft under or too senile to notice!
 
Has he taken up Australian citizenship or is he still a Sporean:confused:

They should make him stay in the HDB heartlands & see if he sings a different tune.



Never trust someone who could steal his friend's (Doggie Kishore) angmoh wife.
 
"We must continue to keep the city green and attractive for businesses, as well as good talent to come," Liu told CNBC

Ya, attractive for businesses, what kind of business? Businessmen who run ah longs, drug smuggling, prostitution rings? Good talent to come?
Ya, what kind of talent? Foreigners who walloped locals like their punching bags, took up skirt videos, raped, committed crimes, and a host of other misdeeds and he called them good talents?

Soon there will be more foreign criminals running around the island than good talents if the pappies do not deport foreigners with court convictions. The guy is only cock talked his way to insanity.
 
He can talk rot as he won't be affected. By the time pop hits 10m, he's either 6 ft under or too senile to notice!

He did not seem to realise the pappies lost certain seats to WP due to immigration issues, and yet, he still wanted LHL to stick to his Pop White Paper. Limpeh do not believe LHL is so dumb to follow this old cock's theory.

Botak Tharman already said 3 million is enough and he talks more sense than this old cock.
 
This fellow really knows which side his bread is buttered, doesn't he? LOL. :D
 
By the time 10 million population becomes a reality, he'll probably be ash and compost already. Maybe his 'sloppy seconds' ang moh wife too. ;)

These elites live in the splendidly isolated gated communities, they won't mix with peasants. Peasants are nothing more than statistics and cattle to them.

He can easily leave the island and settle down in a white man's country if he finds sinapor is too crowded, lah. He is already half white.
 
Never trust someone who could steal his friend's (Doggie Kishore) angmoh wife.

Too bad..i kind of admire the father. Hope he is as what i think he. and not like ee peng liang...another 'father'...father of charity.
 
This one indeed a loyal dog.....
Even master lky Mati already he still loyally bark his tune
 
This one indeed a loyal dog.....
Even master lky Mati already he still loyally bark his tune

Don't forget name dropping LKY to score points. ;)

"Leaders must be humble enough to learn what makes a good city. Mr Lee understood what made a good city from his days in Cambridge, but he spent all his life learning from urban success stories," said Liu, referring to Singapore's founding father Lee Kuan Yew.
 
Too bad..i kind of admire the father. Hope he is as what i think he. and not like ee peng liang...another 'father'...father of charity.


Doggie's father and mother also migrated to Perth and his artist father mati oredi and buried in Perth.

While Doggie's family resides on an one acre block at Peppermint Cove (Perth equivalent to Nassim Road), S'poreans can squeeze among 10m population.
 
Really..? What is the name of his friend...any source to substantiate....interesting.

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This white bitch once belonged to Kishore.


http://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/infopedia/articles/SIP_928_2004-12-23.html


Gretchen Liu (b. 1951, Minnesota, United States -) nee Gretchen Gustafson a.k.a Gretchen Mahbubani, journalist and writer of books on local culture, history and architecture.

Gretchen is of mixed European origins, having a Swedish father and Polish mother. She first came to Singapore at the age of 20, as an exchange student. She met Kishore Mahbubani during this time who in time become her first husband. She returned to Singapore only after she completed her degree in International Relations and History at the University of Minnesota and finishing Mandarin studies at Cornell University.

She started work as an editor at Longman, a local publishing firm, before becoming a journalist for The Straits Times' art and lifestyle section. She moved toward publishing books on Singapore's local cultural scene even whilst holding parallel positions in heritage institutions such as being the curator of Raffles Hotel Museum and becoming the art consultant for Raffles International. She was also the chairman of the Singapore Symphony Orchestra Ladies' League.

Despite the breakdown of her first marriage, Gretchen continued to write books. Through her work, she met architect and urban planner Liu Thai Ker who was to become her second husband in 1984. She has two children with Thai Ker -- Kristin, a daughter and her son Daniel.
 
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