PAP vs WP

[ckmpd]

The PAP wants the WP to put up alternative policies since it is the opposition. The pap does not work alone. It has the whole civil service working for the govt. Policy on building hdb flats was put up by the Ministry of National Development, not by the pap. Policy on hawker centres was put up be NEA, not by pap. Policy on defence, whether to buy F35s or Sukhoi aircraft, was put up by Ministry of Defence, not by pap. Policy on MRT lines was put up by Ministry of Transport and not be pap. So the pap must not be confused. As a party, pap does not put up any policy paper. All were done by the civil service. So, Lawrence Wong, wake up.

I hope WP will just continue to check and question the govt. Ignore the taunts of LW and the PAP. Singaporeans will back you and cover your back, Workers Party

 

[kaninabuchaojibye]

you are absolutely right

 

[ckmpd]

LW and PAP are talking through their backsides. The govt approves policy papers put by by the Civil Service. The pap doesnt put up any policy paper regarding management of Singapore. When the pap is voted out, the Alternative party which forms the govt will approve civil service papers. The pap can then question the Alternative govt. Until then, the role of WP is to check and question the pap and the govt

 

[ckmpd]

Lawrence Wong and the PAP are trying to bully the WP

 

[kaninabuchaojibye]

LW and PAP are talking through their backsides. The govt approves policy papers put by by the Civil Service. The pap doesnt put up any policy paper regarding management of Singapore. When the pap is voted out, the Alternative party which forms the govt will approve civil service papers. The pap can then question the Alternative govt. Until then, the role of WP is to check and question the pap and the govt

yep. pap talk cock bestest.

 

[ckmpd]

yep. pap talk cock bestest.

Agree with you, LW and PAP talk bird. Let them continue their unfair bullying nature and the voters will send them out at the next GE

 

[laksaboy]

As I've said, the opposition is not a suggestion box for the ruling party.

Only daft Sinkies brainwashed by decades of one party totalitarian rule would be fooled by the PAP's little 'cunning plan'.

The PAP can do certain things to improve itself without requiring any input from the WP. Getting rid of Lee Hsien Loong would be a nice first step.

 

[ckmpd]

As I've said, the opposition is not a suggestion box for the ruling party.

Only daft Sinkies brainwashed by decades of one party totalitarian rule would be fooled by the PAP's little 'cunning plan'.

The PAP can do certain things to improve itself without requiring any input from the WP. Getting rid of Lee Hsien Loong would be a nice first step.

Agree with you. WP must just ignore what's nonsensical and rubbish from the pap and dont fall into their wicked schemes and traps. Just stayn ]] on the high ground and ignore the pap taunts. Singaporean voters will back the Alternative Parties like WP, PSP and SDP

 

[CPTMiller]

LW and PAP are talking through their backsides. The govt approves policy papers put by by the Civil Service. The pap doesnt put up any policy paper regarding management of Singapore. When the pap is voted out, the Alternative party which forms the govt will approve civil service papers. The pap can then question the Alternative govt. Until then, the role of WP is to check and question the pap and the govt

Do you honestly know how many pap members in government stat board, glc , ministry and related co.
Please don't anyhow accuse Lawrence Wong?
You want him to cry again?
You think being a ruling party will not input their people at various government mechanism??
So what ever you talk on recommendation policy is no other then pap people from within

 

[shittypore]

Don't noe if it's genuine or fake. Judge for yourself.

*Lawrence Wong*: "WP has to go beyond questioning government policies now!

*Gerard Ong*
Come on Lawrence Wong, the Workers Party MPs are not school boys and girls elected into parliament. Neither are you a school prefect watching over your charges. Pritam Singh, Sylvia Lim and you were elected into parliament in the same year in 2011.

But with one big difference – you came in on the coattails of two ministers in West Coast GRC, while Pritam and Sylvia had to fight their darndest with Low Thia Khiang and his team, to wrest Aljunied GRC from two cabinet ministers and one senior minister of state.

Please stop acting as though you are the grand sage of the PAP with all the years of political wisdom and worldliness coupled with lengthy experience in parliamentary and contentious debates in policy proposals and issues. Those titles are reserved for the very few in Singapore's parliamentary history.

What right do you have to admonish the WP and remind them that they cannot just continue to question and ask for changes to government policy?

As elected MPs of course they have every right to continue to ask questions of the PAP government. That is their right and job to do so. Because if they don’t then they are not true representatives of the people who voted for them.

Remember the blank cheque which Jamus Lim spoke about in the TV debate? It resonated well with many Singaporeans.

As for alternate policy proposals, that is something that the WP has been doing all along and will continue to do so despite the inaccessibility of govt data, reports and statistics.

We live in hope that the newly elected opposition MPs will receive the respect and support that they are entitled to in a parliamentary democracy.

PM Lee has said he will provide the necessary support and staff to Pritam. He also looks forward to the 10 new opposition MPs and two NCMPs participating in and contributing to parliamentary and national debates – we shall see if the PM and his cabinet will be truthful and respectful partners in this endeavour.

 

[whoami]

If only Dr Chee in parliament. Boy, he will definitely give those MIW a hard time!

 

[ckmpd]

Don't noe if it's genuine or fake. Judge for yourself.

*Lawrence Wong*: "WP has to go beyond questioning government policies now!

*Gerard Ong*
Come on Lawrence Wong, the Workers Party MPs are not school boys and girls elected into parliament. Neither are you a school prefect watching over your charges. Pritam Singh, Sylvia Lim and you were elected into parliament in the same year in 2011.

But with one big difference – you came in on the coattails of two ministers in West Coast GRC, while Pritam and Sylvia had to fight their darndest with Low Thia Khiang and his team, to wrest Aljunied GRC from two cabinet ministers and one senior minister of state.

Please stop acting as though you are the grand sage of the PAP with all the years of political wisdom and worldliness coupled with lengthy experience in parliamentary and contentious debates in policy proposals and issues. Those titles are reserved for the very few in Singapore's parliamentary history.

What right do you have to admonish the WP and remind them that they cannot just continue to question and ask for changes to government policy?

As elected MPs of course they have every right to continue to ask questions of the PAP government. That is their right and job to do so. Because if they don’t then they are not true representatives of the people who voted for them.

Remember the blank cheque which Jamus Lim spoke about in the TV debate? It resonated well with many Singaporeans.

As for alternate policy proposals, that is something that the WP has been doing all along and will continue to do so despite the inaccessibility of govt data, reports and statistics.

We live in hope that the newly elected opposition MPs will receive the respect and support that they are entitled to in a parliamentary democracy.

PM Lee has said he will provide the necessary support and staff to Pritam. He also looks forward to the 10 new opposition MPs and two NCMPs participating in and contributing to parliamentary and national debates – we shall see if the PM and his cabinet will be truthful and respectful partners in this endeavour.

WP must not be lured into playing pap's game. WP must do its part as an Opposition in a Parliamentary Democracy. WP is doing a great job asking questions in Parliament, compelling the Ministers to be on their toes and exposing their inadequacies

 

[ckmpd]

If only Dr Chee in parliament. Boy, he will definitely give those MIW a hard time!

Yes, we need CSJ, PY and TCB in parliament. But Bukit Batok, Bukit Panjang and West Coast voters are not as courageous and wise as Hougang, Aljunied and Sengkang voters

 

[ckmpd]

Do you honestly know how many pap members in government stat board, glc , ministry and related co.
Please don't anyhow accuse Lawrence Wong?
You want him to cry again?
You think being a ruling party will not input their people at various government mechanism??
So what ever you talk on recommendation policy is no other then pap people from within

Do you disagree with me that any policy on housing came from Ministry of National Devt? Do you disagree that purchase of F35s policy paper was put up by Mindef?

 

[ckmpd]

when a ministry puts up a policy paper to the Cabinet. often it consults other ministries. also the ministry will need access to govt official statistics and data. Looking at how the pap answered questions in parliament, i have no confidence that the pap will share such data and figures with WP

 

[batman1]

Is Lau Lan Wong on weed ? Why he suddenly feel high demanding others to do this and do that ? Just show him the Middle finger and tell him to go fs.

 

[mojito]

LW and PAP are talking through their backsides. The govt approves policy papers put by by the Civil Service. The pap doesnt put up any policy paper regarding management of Singapore. When the pap is voted out, the Alternative party which forms the govt will approve civil service papers. The pap can then question the Alternative govt. Until then, the role of WP is to check and question the pap and the govt

Don't be silly. Do you really think the civil service bo tai go chi put up population white paper, ceca for pap to approve?

 

[kaninabuchaojibye]

Is Lau Lan Wong on weed ? Why he suddenly feel high demanding others to do this and do that ? Just show him the Middle finger and tell him to go fs.

he's just another eunuch

 

[ckmpd]

Don't be silly. Do you really think the civil service bo tai go chi put up population white paper, ceca for pap to approve?

Dear Mojito,

You are silly and showing your ignorance.

Every Ministry has a 1 yr workplan, 5 yr workplan and 10 yr workplan. The longer workplans are rolling workplans and they are updated every year. The workplans are under the purview and responsibility of the Permanent Secretary, DS and senior staffs. The political appt holders can come and go but the PS, DS and senior staffs continue with the mgmt and running of the ministry. Continuity is assured, despite changes in political leaders, because of the civil service.

Take for example 10 yr Workplan for MTI may identify that SG will have a shortage of manpower in 10yrs time for the various businesses..This will be surfaced to other ministries and the relevant ministries will brainstorm and come to the conclusion that we need to increase manpower beyond what Singaporeans can produce. Hence the CECA and population white paper. These are done by civil servants and ministry staff. You think it was done by pap? how silly of you.

Likewise, Mindef work plan may see a threat to SG in 10yrs time. Hence the need to buy new aircraft. So, Mindef staff, SAF and RSAF will put up a position paper to buy F35s. This was done by the ministry staff. Silly of you to think this policy paper was put up by pap, or ng eng heng. The minister simply endorses and get funding for the purchase. Ng Eng Heng can go and still Mindef will run smoothly. How silly of you


So policy papers are put up by professional civil servants and not pap. It is simple minded singaporeans like you who knows little but frightens unnecessarily

 

[ckmpd]

Is Lau Lan Wong on weed ? Why he suddenly feel high demanding others to do this and do that ? Just show him the Middle finger and tell him to go fs.

Agree. WP answers to Singaporeans, not pap