PAP in Town Council Scandal

[itchy]

Re: Computer firm says town council's claim "inaccurate"

It's like peeling onions, bring tears to our eyes when the layers of greed and cronyism are peeled off.

 

[Froggy]

Re: Computer firm says town council's claim "inaccurate"

Are you all talking about this that I just found in the website this morning? - http://feedmetothefish.blogspot.com/

According to the above blog the article comes from this other blog - http://singaporeelection.blogspot.sg/2012/12/pap-mis-aimed-faces-blowback.html

Interesting picture below ya? Like something from our mat neighbours

 

[ForFun]

Re: News: Dr Teo says AIM was the sole bidder of its TCs Management System

Though not illegal, what they have done was with very unethical intentions. Seems like there are more and more dishonorable men and women in their midst.

 

[Confuseous]

Re: News: Dr Teo says AIM was the sole bidder of its TCs Management System

Though not illegal, what they have done was with very unethical intentions. Seems like there are more and more dishonorable men and women in their midst.

"Dr Teo said although five companies collected the tender agreement, the sole bid was submitted by AIM, a company fully owned by the PAP." - Report Below.

The PAP Town Councils owe the people an explanation for what it has done. I'm surprise that a company fully owned by the PAP is allowed to even bid for the contract given the potential conflict of interest involved here. The explanation reported below is completely unsatisfactory for anyone who has any ability to think and reason....it insults the intelligence of Singaporeans.

They sold the software for $140,000 and leased it back for $785 per town council per month. There are 14 town councils so the total paid to lease the software i $11K. AIM gets its money back after 13 months and starts to make a profit after that at the expense of constituents. This looks like a financially unfavorable deal that will cost the town councils more money in the long run.

- http://singaporemind.blogspot.sg/2012/12/sale-of-town-council-software.html

 

[ForFun]

Re: News: Dr Teo says AIM was the sole bidder of its TCs Management System

We use to trust that they would do the right thing. Well that was about 20 / 30 years ago. These days whatever they do, one can see their hidden ill intentions.

 

[clinton666]

Re: News: Dr Teo says AIM was the sole bidder of its TCs Management System

More than 90% of Aljunied residents have voiced their great displeasure with WP over the party's gross mismanagement of the Aljunied town council. When the PAP was in power , all the computer and financial systems was in excellent operating condition but since the WP has come to power, the systems has been in a mess, causing confusion, panic, anger and frustration amongst the Aljunied residents. All the Aljunied residents spoken to by the press have admitted they regretted voting in the Wayang Party and they are now demanding a re-election immediately!
Just desserts for these retards as they did not vote for the PAP!

 

[commoner]

Re: News: Dr Teo says AIM was the sole bidder of its TCs Management System

developed by NCs, purchased by AIM, and AIM sub contract to NCS to provide services,,,,, hahaha

脱褲放屁

 

[iamhere]

Re: News: Dr Teo says AIM was the sole bidder of its TCs Management System

developed by NCs, purchased by AIM, and AIM sub contract to NCS to provide services,,,,, hahaha

脱褲放屁

may i add???


developed by NCs (paid for by public) , purchased by AIM, and AIM sub contract to NCS to provide services (to be paid by public),,,,, hahaha


very "well-engineered" move......... but "paper can never cover fire"

 

[Fuckee]

Phua Chu Beng!!! Kana screwed again!!! NB Phua Chu Beng!!!

 

[makapaaa]

Re: News: Dr Teo says AIM was the sole bidder of its TCs Management System

Monday, December 24, 2012

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I am a little surprised the story about town council computer and financial systems is not getting as much traction as I think it deserves. Perhaps with the Michael Palmer affair, workers going on strike and climbing cranes, and now a school principal being investigated for corruption, it just got buried by more attention-grabbing news.

However, my sense is that this has the potential to be a big story, causing enormous damage to the People’s Action Party (PAP). Possibly too, the Workers’ Party knows more than they are revealing.

From what has been disclosed so far, it shows the PAP to be a party that is determined to leave a trail of destruction, crippling the state if need be — to hell with the citizens! — should it be forced to leave power. It is contrary to the spirit of democracy and any shred of good governance.

It began with the government trying to be too smart for its own good. The Ministry of National Development said, in its latest Town Council Management Review, that Aljunied-Hougang Town Council (AHTC) got a red score — the worst band — over its management of arrears of service and conservancy charges. Its score for corporate governance was shown in the review as “pending”, with the explanation that “Aljunied-Hougang TC has yet to submit their auditor’s Management Letter, which is material to the banding of the corporate governance indicator”. Everyone knew what the message was: that the Workers’ Party, which runs AHTC, is incompetent. Many in the PAP must have been gleeful for the chance to take this potshot at the Workers’ Party.

On 14 December 2012, Sylvia Lim, chair of AHTC — she is also chair of the Workers’ Party — issued a statement that attributed difficulties faced by ATHC to the sudden withdrawal of the provider of computer and financial systems just after the party took over the running of the town council. She said:

After the [general election] in May 2011, the Town Council was served with a notice that the Town Council’s Computer and Financial Systems will be terminated with effect from 1 August 2011 due to material changes to the membership of the Town Council. This Computer and Financial Systems had been developed jointly by the 14 PAP Town Councils over a period of more than 15 months but was in January 2011 sold to and leased back from M/s Action Information Management Pte Ltd, a company which was dormant. This effectively meant that ATHC had to develop its own equivalent systems, in particular a Financial System, within a 2 months’ timeframe.

– http://www.ahtc.org.sg/ahtc/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/TCMR-Media-Release.pdf​

A few days later Action Information Management (AIM) tried to defend itself by saying that it would have continued to extend the lease of the systems to the town council if WP had asked for it.

But yesterday, AIM’s chairman S. Chandra Das said in a letter to The Straits Times: “If AHTC had asked for a longer extension, AIM would have similarly agreed. However, after the second extension, AHTC did not ask for further extension.”
The first extension was until Aug 31 and the next, until Sept 9, added Mr Chandra Das.
Last night, Ms Lim said the first extension was achieved through an intermediary, who said the extra month had to be “fought for”.
She said: “We were certainly not given to understand that there could be any extension after this.”
– Straits Times, 18 Dec 2012, WP, computer firm argue over lease​

The name Chandra Das would ring a bell: he was a former PAP member of parliament. In fact, it was soon revealed that AIM”s three directors were all former PAP MPs: Chandra Das, Chew Heng Ching and Lau Ping Sum.

Then — I think it was TR Emeritus which broke the story — it was revealed that AIM had a paid-up capital of only $2. Chandra Das and Lau each owned one share (of $1). The company’s registered office (at 36 Robinson Road #17-01, City House, Singapore 068877) was also a shell office.

As Sylvia Lim pointed out, the questions have to be: Why did the PAP Town Councils relinquish ownership of the computer and financial system, and how much did they sell it to AIM for? It was probably developed with taxpayer money by the 14 town councils, with much input and support from tax-payer-paid town council staff, unless — and it is hard to believe — the PAP paid for the development of the system.

What is even more curious is that the service agreement with AIM allows AIM to terminate the contract with only one month’s notice should there be a material change to the composition of the town council. As Sylvia Lim asked: “How is it in the public interest to have such a thing?” (ibid).

The carcass smells even worse than a week’s garbage lying in the hot sun.

Any half-lucid observer will see it for what it is: an attempt by the PAP to plant booby-traps to snare opposition parties when they win a constituency and take over the town council. But they have done this in ways that raise troubling questions about the possibility of breach of trust.

• What price was it sold to AIM for? How was that price arrived at?
• Was there competitive tendering?
• In discharging their duty as town councillors, how is acting for partisan advantage in the best interest of the residents of the constituency? Shouldn’t they be acting to ensure the continuation of the town council systems?
• If a financial controller of a company created some mechanism that ensured that, upon his departure from the company, the financial system of the company would break down, would he not be prosecuted for criminal breach of trust?

If, as they claim, our Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau and Attorney-General’s Chambers are independent institutions, we should expect them to mount an investigation immediately.

Aljunied was a PAP ward before May 2011. I assume it was among the 14 PAP Town Councils that participated and paid for the development of the system. If so, there should be information in its accounts indicating how much its share of costs was. There should also be records in its minutes of meetings from before and around January 2011 pertaining to the sale of the system to AIM. Surely, PAP-run Aljunied would have been consulted and its agreement sought.

This is why I think the Workers’ Party may know more than it is currently prepared to reveal.

On the other hand, maybe the records were deleted before the handover. But if so, the question becomes: Wouldn’t such tampering of accounts and minutes of meetings be illegal?

The PAP likes to cast itself as a party of scrupulous integrity. On this matter, they have a lot to answer for, or they’ll be seen as the opposite: foul and dirty. This is not a case which it can dismiss as the mistake of one lone PAP person; the moves they made involved nearly all PAP MPs in the town councils across the board.

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[Bigfuck]

Re: News: Dr Teo says AIM was the sole bidder of its TCs Management System

More than 90% of Aljunied residents have voiced their great displeasure with WP over the party's gross mismanagement of the Aljunied town council. When the PAP was in power , all the computer and financial systems was in excellent operating condition but since the WP has come to power, the systems has been in a mess, causing confusion, panic, anger and frustration amongst the Aljunied residents. All the Aljunied residents spoken to by the press have admitted they regretted voting in the Wayang Party and they are now demanding a re-election immediately!
Just desserts for these retards as they did not vote for the PAP!

More than 99% of Singaporeans have voiced their great displeasure with Leegime's gross mismanagement of Singapore. There will be trouble.

 

[kingrant]

No heroes from the whores at Braddell Rd brave enough to call a scoundrel a scoundrel? Seems nobody dares to touch the elephant in the room except report about proper procedures being followed?

What sbout ethics? What happened to public service? When politicians fight, the citizens suffer. What happened to statesmanship, graciousness in defeat?

Whats the bloody use of writing books after retirement and telling the world how you would have fought the good fight up on the hills but chose to remain silent and blame it all on the bosses?

 

[zeddy]

A scam.. Just another of the PAP's old boys network policy..

In local term, its called LEEgalised Corruption..

PAP loyal old dogs will always be treated well after their retirements as the LEEgime's Hound dogs..

 

[kukubird58]

Re: On mis-Aiming and Low Blows

On mis-Aiming and Low Blows
by Wah June Hwang on Monday, 24 December 2012 at 01:59 ·


A Smokescreen?

AHTC's contract with AIM was extended from Aug and Sep. AHTC did not ask for a further extension of the contract because they did not think AIM would agree. It would not cost WP anything to pick up the phone or to send an email to AIM to check, but they did not do so. If the software were so important to the running of the Town Council, how, in Ms Lim's own words, is it in public interest to do such a thing? Or perhaps, they never had the intention to continue using the thing, and this issue only came up as an excuse after the bad Town Council report (which incidentally also included lowest banding for management of arrears and conservancy charges)?

The Main Point

Let us not lose sight of the main issue. It has been 20 months since WP won Aljunid in GE May 11, and a whole 16 months since termination of the lease of AIM contract. Perhaps the AIM system has many bells and whistles, but once AHTC has accepted that it cannot continue using AIM's system in Aug 11, should it not take the effort to put at least a working accounting system in place? To claim this as the cause of their not able to produce accounts for audit in 2012 is disingenious at best. We are talking about an accounting system, not building a nuclear bomb! Surely Hougang SMC had a working system that can be adapted?

hahaha......different perspective and also make sense.

 

[Sir_Fcuk]

LKY is not a hypocrite. He already alluded to this a decade ago. On the other hand, his son is the ultimate smiling tiger.

His son is a clueless tiger. Lost in the woods. He is still being hand held by his father's loyalist group of advisors. They are becoming extinct though.....

 

[rusty]

Re: Computer firm says town council's claim "inaccurate"

Are you all talking about this that I just found in the website this morning? - http://feedmetothefish.blogspot.com/

According to the above blog the article comes from this other blog - http://singaporeelection.blogspot.sg/2012/12/pap-mis-aimed-faces-blowback.html

Interesting picture below ya? Like something from our mat neighbours

These 3 men very jialat with all the lightning bolts striking them from the top and with both sides well covered. The only road left is down and DOWN they must go!

 

[Froggy]

A scam.. Just another of the PAP's old boys network policy..

In local term, its called LEEgalised Corruption..

PAP loyal old dogs will always be treated well after their retirements as the LEEgime's Hound dogs..

Actually I did not know this is so serious until I saw the thread and those blogs.

1. PAP has to explain this very clearly, its all over the fucking place they cannot hide, they need to answer.

2. Why is the main stream media not reporting this serious issue?

 

[Green Light]

"Be careful of those who pat you on the back. They might be looking for a soft spot to plant the knife." First AHTC "expressed its appreciation to AIM for the assistance rendered" then when they cannot make it with its corporate governance audit, let the blame games begins. Level: The Workers' Party.

WP town council 'wanted to develop own system' - PAP-owned IT firm says it readily granted 2 requests to extend services - Dec 25, 2012

By Goh Chin Lian
A COMPANY providing IT services to town councils has refuted a claim by Aljunied-Hougang Town Council (AHTC) that it had to fight to continue using the firm's computerised management system.

Yesterday, Action Information Management (Aim) said that the AHTC had wanted to develop its own system after the Workers' Party (WP) took over the town council last year, and that Aim readily gave it the two extensions it sought.

AHTC even thanked Aim for the extensions, the firm's chairman S. Chandra Das said. He added that WP chairman Sylvia Lim's allegation that the extension had to be "fought for" was inaccurate.

The former People's Action Party (PAP) MP was responding to Ms Lim's criticism of Aim for terminating its IT services after the opposition party won Aljunied GRC in the general election.

She also questioned Aim's contract with town councils allowing it to terminate its services in the event of a material change in the composition of a town council.

Aim has been managing the town council management system (TCMS) for PAP councils after it obtained a 2010 open tender for the contract.

The controversy arose earlier this month when a government management review gave AHTC the lowest banding for arrears management and did not rate its corporate governance as its auditor's management letter had not been submitted in time.

Ms Lim blamed the poor showing on the need to replicate a new computer and financial system after Aim, which is fully owned by the PAP, terminated its services.

Yesterday, however, Mr Chandra Das said that "false and misleading claims and statements about Aim" had been published in the press and social media.

He explained how the company had taken over the IT contract, and gave details on the termination for AHTC last year.

"Prior to the termination, Aljunied-Hougang TC had informed Aim in June 2011 that it was developing a new TCMS to serve its residents effectively and requested for an extension of the use of the Aim TCMS on two occasions," he said.

In response to queries by The Straits Times, Aim also said the town council wrote to it on June 10 to say it was developing a new computer system, thanked Aim for its service, and asked for the termination to be done on Aug 31.

Aim replied on June 22 to say that according to the contract, termination would take place on Aug 1, but two days later, offered the first extension to Aug 31. On June 29, the town council asked for a further extension to Sept 9, which Aim allowed.

Mr Chandra Das said: "On both occasions, Aim willingly agreed to the request." He said Aim would also have agreed to a further extension if the town council had asked for it. As it did not, the contract was allowed to lapse.

"It is noted that the town council had expressed its appreciation to Aim for the assistance rendered in the related matters," he added.

"Accordingly, Ms Sylvia Lim's allegation that the first extension had to be 'fought for' is inaccurate. We note that she did not provide any details or basis to support the allegation."

[email protected]

 

[sleaguepunter]

Actually I did not know this is so serious until I saw the thread and those blogs.

1. PAP has to explain this very clearly, its all over the fucking place they cannot hide, they need to answer.

2. Why is the main stream media not reporting this serious issue?

uncle, u too long in the land of the free, so u forgotten papig sop liao.

1. when pap cannot explain, they keep quiet and expect the state controlled media to spin ppl attention away.

2. u expect the state controlled media to bite the hand that feed it?

too many fires to put out liao, this year christmas all quiet in the pap front. normally, there a big celebration at the open area at compassvale point every year by the teo and gang with the residents, this year i have not know whether there one plan for this year end count down.

 

[sleaguepunter]

[email protected]

hey green light, u beh sian meh? paste this article so many times in this forum.

if state controlled media can be trusted, this kopitiam would have closed down many years ago. tiu....