Paedophile priests? In Sinkie land??

[Extremist]

by Bertha Henson

Here’s what the Catholic Church in Singapore doesn’t need: claims that a couple of priests are paedophiles. A Ms Jane Leigh, 36, has written a book, My Nine Lives, claiming that two priests had sexually abused her when she was 14. She moved to Australia for her studies not long after and is now a clinical psychotherapist and a mother of two teenagers.

Go buy TNP.

She did not name the priests but did disclose the Catholic order one of the them belonged to. The other has left the clergy. TNP contacted both men who were shocked at the allegations. Her book contained details of how a priest 20 years older had taken her out for movies, ice cream and dinners. And how visits to Changi Airport’s viewing gallery were marked by kissing and groping. They had sex. But the relationship “soured’’ two years later. She went for counselling with a second priest whom, she claimed, in turn molested her.

What a story! TNP asked her some tough questions about why she was spilling the beans so to speak, only now. And why she didn’t report them to the authorities, or to the Archdiocese of Singapore. Seems the Archdiocese had asked her to make a formal report to its Professional Standards Office, which handles complaints about sexual abuse. A spokesman said she could also file a police report and in fact preferred that she do so.

But she doesn’t want to because she doesn’t want to go through the pain and anguish, or get put through the shredder, she told TNP.

Now, it’s pretty unfair of her to cast a slur on a whole church like this because she wants “closure’’. The two priests are easily identifiable even though she used pseudonyms. There might well be a case for defamation – unless, of course, her claims are true.

As for how the Catholic Church will react, it could get an Australian court order to stop publication and circulation, and have the order enforced in Singapore. The laity will be watching to see if it will protect the reputation of the clergy. It could also launch its own investigation and make the results as public as the book.

By the way, Ms Leigh’s book also said her parents made her give her father oral sex. Her father is dead and her mother who is in Singapore declined to speak to TNP.

 

[ThePimp]

Forget about this local news check this out more interesting

Pope Francis and Argentina's 'disappeared'
By Mark Dowd
BBC News
10 April 2013

The election of Pope Francis has thrown a spotlight on his conduct as a priest under Argentina's military dictatorship in the late 70s and early 80s, and in particular at what point he found out about one of the country's most shameful episodes.

Nearly a month has passed since the Roman Catholic Church elected its first leader from Latin America and the international media has been treated to a whirlwind blitz of eye-catching tales and images.

Pope Francis appears to be what Argentinians would say is "campechano" - approachable, "matey", even.

He has washed and kissed the feet of women and Muslims, inscribed his autograph on plaster casts of injured pilgrims and has even telephoned his old Buenos Aires news vendor to cancel his newspaper order. And perhaps most eye-catchingly of all, he has said he wants to see as a priority "a poor Church for the poor".

It has all been perceived as a breath of fresh air. The stuffy papacy, which resembled a mediaeval monarchy, some say, is now gone.

But lurking beneath the surface are pressing concerns that threaten to dog Jorge Mario Bergoglio from his time as Jesuit superior and cardinal of the Roman Catholic Church in Argentina.

Within 24 hours of the white smoke from the Sistine Chapel, allegations emerged that he withdrew protection from two of his fellow Jesuits during the early years of the brutal military dictatorship of 1976 to 1983, which resulted in their captivity and torture.

The Vatican acted swiftly to deny the claims. The remaining surviving priest, Fr Francisco Jalics, issued an initial statement saying he was "reconciled with these events". The words appeared ambiguous. Might he be saying he was betrayed but has now forgiven the Pope for his betrayal?

A week later, a more robust statement was issued from his secluded monastery in southern Germany, saying that it was "wrong to assert that our capture took place at the initiative of Father Bergoglio". Any suggestion of a smoking gun appeared to have been extinguished.

But can Bergoglio's efforts to be a witness for justice during the dark days of the military regime compare with those of Oscar Romero, the archbishop from El Salvador, whose uncompromising criticism of government death squads and oppression of the poor led to him being assassinated in 1980 as he celebrated Mass?

"Bergoglio was not a Romero. Very few people were like that," says Ivan Petrella, religious affairs commentator at think tank Fundacion Pensar in his Buenos Aires office.

But if Romero scored 10 on a 10-point scale for his courageous stand, how had the current Pope fared? "I´d say 7.5," says Petrella. "Allegations against him have no basis in evidence."

But there is another story that demands answers - the supremely toxic affair of "disappeared" pregnant women, who gave birth to their children while being held in detention centres. Most of the mothers were murdered and their children handed on to "deserving" couples who were well connected with the brutal military junta.

This is very much a live political issue. A number of the children have discovered the painful truth about their past, while hundreds more still remain blissfully ignorant of their parentage. The campaigning grandmothers assert that many priests and nuns were complicit in what happened and are still at large in society. They show no sign of letting the matter rest.

At first sight, this is not an issue that should threaten Pope Francis. In 2010 he was asked in front of a state tribunal when he first knew of the cases of children being taken from their mothers.

Radio 4's The Report has managed to track down the audio from his testimony in which he says, initially: "Recently, about 10 years ago." Then he pauses, and corrects himself. "No, it must have been around the time of the military junta trial." The mid-1980s, in other words.

However, this is not accepted by Estela de la Cuadra who tells a spine-chilling tale about one mother and child who disappeared.

Estela's five-month pregnant sister, Elena, was seized in February 1977 and gave birth to a daughter, Ana, in July of that year in a local detention centre station where she was being held. Estela's father, Roberto, sought the help of Fr Bergoglio in trying to find out what happened to his daughter.

Estela showed me a letter dated 28 October 1977, signed by Fr Bergoglio, then a Jesuit provincial father. He was writing to a local area bishop on behalf of Mr de la Cuadra. The letter, which Estela showed me, reads as follows:

"I am going to the trouble of introducing Mr Roberto Luis de la Cuadra, with whom I had a conversation…. He will explain to you what it is about."

Estela is adamant that the letter shows that the Pope withheld the truth in court in 2010, but the text shows no such thing. There is no explicit mention of "missing children," just a general reference to a matter of concern. The letter shows Pope Francis using his good offices to help and build bridges.

However, a year after the 2010 court hearing, there was a further inquiry, this time specifically into the cases of "los ninos desaparecidos" (the children who disappeared). This time, lawyers were able to pinpoint the de la Cuadra case in their questions to the then Cardinal Bergoglio.

The Report has obtained a transcript of his responses. He tables answers to 33 questions in which he says, in answer to No 13, "[Roberto de la Cuadra] told me that his daughter had been kidnapped. I don´t recall him telling me if his daughter was pregnant." In a later answer (No 19) , he says he only came to hear about the birth of the child in captivity many years later through media reports.

All of which may well be the case but these answers prompt further questions.



Letter dated 1977 from the then Fr Bergoglio regarding Elena De La Cuadra
The stories of missing children were not kept under wraps in Argentina during military rule. Estela showed me French, Brazilian and Canadian press reports from 1979, which carried out detailed investigations into the phenomenon. There were reports in the English-speaking Buenos Aires Herald, a publication which incurred the wrath of the ruling military junta.

Moreover, there is TV archive footage of the campaigning mothers and grandmothers from 1979, in silent procession in the Plaza de Mayo, in the very heart of the city of Buenos Aires, holding up pictures of their missing loved ones.

They spoke out to foreign news crews about their families, courageous acts which at one stage ended up with General Galtieri´s regime firing rubber bullets at the women to try and evict them from the square.

The Society of Jesus is an international order with nearly 20,000 priests worldwide. News is circulated widely among the various provinces so if Father Bergoglio did not learn about any of this until 1985, as he said under oath in court, it appears he was leading quite an insulated existence.

In 1998, Bergoglio was made archbishop of Buenos Aires, effectively the titular head of the Argentine Catholic Church and in 2001 he was made a cardinal.

Ten years later, in the 2011 court hearing into the cases of missing children, he was asked if the Church had ever held or was, at the time, currently holding, a commission of enquiry into these matters.

His written reply reads as follows: "I don't know if the hierarchy had such a body during the military dictatorship. It's possible that a lay group of the faithful of a religious congregation set something like that up or is currently doing it. I don't know."

We asked the Pope´s press spokesman, Father Federico Lombardi, to comment on the issues raised by the story of Estela´s sister and her missing niece, Ana. He replied: "As you know, the case of the de la Cuadra family has already been raised many times and Cardinal Bergoglio has given his answers. I have nothing more to add."

Estela, who lost five of her relatives during the so-called "dirty war" and ended up fleeing the country as a UN refugee, is not giving up her fight: "We have asked Bergoglio to open up the Church archives so we can find out what really happened."

She carries on waiting.

 

[ThePimp]

Another program by BBC a radio documentary, can hear it all here

The Truth About Pope Francis

For the past few weeks there has been excitement across the Catholic world over the election of the first Latin American Pope - a man who wants to put the poor at the centre of the Church's teaching. But a series of difficult questions have been raised about Pope Francis’s role during Argentina's "Dirty War" and the military dictatorship of the 1970s and early 1980s.

In this programme journalist and former Dominican monk Mark Dowd travels to Buenos Aires to find out the truth about Pope Francis. Mark speaks to those close to the new Pontiff, his former colleagues, friends and sister about his motivations and character. He talks to key players in the case of two Jesuit priests who were seized and tortured by the dictatorship to find out what Pope Francis really knew and did when they went missing. And he hears from a family whose pregnant relative was kidnapped by agents of the dictatorship. The baby was taken away and relatives appealed to the then Father Bergoglio for help in finding the child. But what happened? And when did Father Bergoglio become aware of the scandal of the stolen baby?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p017jzvn

 

[THE_CHANSTER]

Wherever there are Catholic Priests in the world, there will be pedophiles.

 

[Froggy]

Wherever there are Catholic Priests in the world, there will be pedophiles.

Funny, I wonder if anyone could agree with me when you see pinoys they all look like central americans bot just the religion but also behaviour, culture, habits etc etc wonder if anything to do with Spanish/Portuguese conquests.

 

[laksaboy]

Paedophile priests? In Sinkie land??

It's quite laughable that some Sinkies think Sinkieland is automatically exempt from certain atrocities and cockups that happen in other parts of the world.

I'm not sure if it comes from blind faith in the PAP govt and the various public institutions (especially law enforcement and the judiciary), or from the relentless patriotic indoctrination your average Sinkie child had imbibed through his/her most impressionable years in the wonderful education system here.

 

[GOD IS MY DOG]

maybe God and Jesus also sexually abusing new people going to heaven leh................


as long as people retain their human desires and attachments..................no place can be heaven..............


so enough of all these false promises of heaven by false man-made religions.........................

 

[Satyr]

Ms Leigh is one drama case. She claims she had consensual sex with one priest. Fresh from that experience she chooses to go to another priest and gets "molested". As if encounters with two Fathers are not enough, she has another with her own father. Once may be unfortunate, twice may bad luck, three times ? Maybe that's why the church authorities would like her to file a police report.

 

[singveld]

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[escher]

When all sinkies have heads down down and arsehole up high high to be screwed and fucked by PAP maggots and cockroaches and civil serpents why anyone fuck care what some priests or Pope did nor do?

Sinkies regardless of age include very young babes and include old 80 to 90 years old all in same position of head down and arsehole up high to be screwed and fucked by PAP maggots

Our land stolen from us and our money becoming their plaything and into their fucking banks

Why should I care of gropping priests when my own arsehole and your arsehole are being fucked?

 

[halsey02]

maybe God and Jesus also sexually abusing new people going to heaven leh................


as long as people retain their human desires and attachments..................no place can be heaven..............


so enough of all these false promises of heaven by false man-made religions.........................

This is blasphemy...man at the pretext of using religion for their purpose is not new...your first part is blasphemy...

 

[Froggy]

Though this is more commonly reported about the Catholic church, one wonders if things like this happens also to Buddhist sect where monks also took vows of celibacy.

 

[The_Hypocrite]

For the all the time that roman catholacism has been in spore. Just one case n the victim statement is very doubtful. N compare to other countries. Spore damn good liao.

 

[The_Hypocrite]

I dont see wat is so big deal about what pope francis has done. Its so long ago n happen halfna world away. Not my problem. N its a shit stirring article. Digging up crap just to creat sensationalism. Francis is doing a good job as pope. If the argentinians feel they have been wrong by him. They should take it up with him.

Another program by BBC a radio documentary, can hear it all here

The Truth About Pope Francis

For the past few weeks there has been excitement across the Catholic world over the election of the first Latin American Pope - a man who wants to put the poor at the centre of the Church's teaching. But a series of difficult questions have been raised about Pope Francis’s role during Argentina's "Dirty War" and the military dictatorship of the 1970s and early 1980s.

In this programme journalist and former Dominican monk Mark Dowd travels to Buenos Aires to find out the truth about Pope Francis. Mark speaks to those close to the new Pontiff, his former colleagues, friends and sister about his motivations and character. He talks to key players in the case of two Jesuit priests who were seized and tortured by the dictatorship to find out what Pope Francis really knew and did when they went missing. And he hears from a family whose pregnant relative was kidnapped by agents of the dictatorship. The baby was taken away and relatives appealed to the then Father Bergoglio for help in finding the child. But what happened? And when did Father Bergoglio become aware of the scandal of the stolen baby?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p017jzvn

 

[AceFrehley]

No big deal. They are everywhere. Priests, commoners...

 

[Extremist]

美女心理治疗师澳洲出书，指控两名狮城神父在她14岁时先后性侵她，她求助无门！

 

[enterprise2]

美女心理治疗师澳洲出书，指控两名狮城神父在她14岁时先后性侵她，她求助无门！

She's 38!! Probably quite hot 20 years ago!!

 

[Harnik]

 

[neddy]

by Bertha Henson

Here’s what the Catholic Church in Singapore doesn’t need: claims that a couple of priests are paedophiles. A Ms Jane Leigh, 36, has written a book, My Nine Lives, claiming that two priests had sexually abused her when she was 14. She moved to Australia for her studies not long after and is now a clinical psychotherapist and a mother of two teenagers.

Go buy TNP.

This woman is just another SGP. Her upper middle-class parents sent her to study in Perth in the mid 1990s and she later continued with university there. Met an angmo and had a baby. Typical spoilt peranakan SPG princess who try to buy sympathy and attention. The powderFOOL story is good enough for the OZ govt support her and her kids on welfare. Later she moved to Melbourne.

I think she found out later that she is lesbian. This book will be good for generating more business for her.

 

[peppertail]

But she doesn’t want to because she doesn’t want to go through the pain and anguish, or get put through the shredder, she told TNP.

Don't write a book with such accusations then...attention seeker.