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P N Balji: Will there be a transformation in PAP?

Porfirio Rubirosa

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..Will there be a transformation?
Wed, May 11, 2011

COMMENT

By PN Balji

Those who know Minister for Foreign Affairs George Yeo will tell you that he chooses his words with care, wisdom and precision. So when he called for a "transformed" People's Action Party (PAP) during one of his election rally speeches, you knew that his choice of word was deliberate; he was not calling for a simple change but something much more.

The 2011 General Election showed that the ruling party apparatus had grown such that it was finding it difficult to understand the ground well enough, and failing to push a clear and cohesive message. Even its reputation for picking candidates with unimpeachable track records was thrown open to question.

For those who might argue that this is all conjecture, here is the evidence: The PAP's share of the popular vote was barely a whisker above 60 percent, a group representation constituency (GRC) fell for the first time, some heavy-weight ministers recorded less than impressive margins and the Workers' Party made significant inroads in all the constituencies it had fought.

Will Mr Yeo's call for transformation be heard and acted upon or be lost in the wilderness? Let us look at what happened after the 1984 and 1991 General Elections. After the 1984 poll, when the PAP's share of votes went below 70 percent for the first time, there were calls for the party to listen to Singaporeans and the Feedback Unit was formed. Seven years later, in the election of 1991, the need for change was mentioned again as the PAP lost three more seats. Now we are in 2011 and the party will be engaged in, as the Prime Minister put it, "soul searching".

I can hear voices sympathetic to the PAP saying that a victory is a victory, and that taking 81 out of 87 constituencies is a proud achievement by world standards. So instead of a transformation, let's isolate the problem and remedy it. You don't need a bulldozer to move a pebble, the argument will go.

The PAP is a monolithic organisation with various motivations, interests and ideas. Convincing all the key players why an issue that goes to the heart of how the party functions and performs should be discussed, let alone be dealt with, would be like getting an aircraft carrier to change course when no storm is in sight.

A transformation needs an advocate. And with Mr Yeo not having the cachet after losing Aljunied GRC, who else can articulate and drive that change?

As we ponder the question, we can ask another: Where else can it come from?

There are two other sources, both outside the established order.

One, the people: They have to keep the momentum going by engaging the policymakers and politicians more openly and substantially via the media, meet-the-people sessions and public forums. The think-tanks, which mainly focus on affairs outside Singapore, can get into the act by engaging the community on issues that matter.

Two, the opposition: The time has come for them to make that push into national issues. Mr Low Thia Khiang is transitioning from a municipal politician into a national one. It has taken him a long while, nearly 20 years.

And with all the opposition parties showing how it is possible to adeptly utilise the online world this General Election, the biggest communication barrier — that your message has to go through a middleman — is disappearing.

For the time being, all eyes will be on the Workers' Party. How they will perform in Parliament, what ideas they have to improve the lives of Singaporeans, how they will join debate with politicians on the other side of the divide — will show the kind of First World Chamber they have been talking about during the nine days of campaigning.

Will all these happen? For a change, the optimist in me says: Yes.
 

steffychun

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..Will there be a transformation?
Wed, May 11, 2011

COMMENT

By PN Balji

Those who know Minister for Foreign Affairs George Yeo will tell you that he chooses his words with care, wisdom and precision. So when he called for a "transformed" People's Action Party (PAP) during one of his election rally speeches, you knew that his choice of word was deliberate; he was not calling for a simple change but something much more.

The 2011 General Election showed that the ruling party apparatus had grown such that it was finding it difficult to understand the ground well enough, and failing to push a clear and cohesive message. Even its reputation for picking candidates with unimpeachable track records was thrown open to question.

For those who might argue that this is all conjecture, here is the evidence: The PAP's share of the popular vote was barely a whisker above 60 percent, a group representation constituency (GRC) fell for the first time, some heavy-weight ministers recorded less than impressive margins and the Workers' Party made significant inroads in all the constituencies it had fought.

Will Mr Yeo's call for transformation be heard and acted upon or be lost in the wilderness? Let us look at what happened after the 1984 and 1991 General Elections. After the 1984 poll, when the PAP's share of votes went below 70 percent for the first time, there were calls for the party to listen to Singaporeans and the Feedback Unit was formed. Seven years later, in the election of 1991, the need for change was mentioned again as the PAP lost three more seats. Now we are in 2011 and the party will be engaged in, as the Prime Minister put it, "soul searching".

I can hear voices sympathetic to the PAP saying that a victory is a victory, and that taking 81 out of 87 constituencies is a proud achievement by world standards. So instead of a transformation, let's isolate the problem and remedy it. You don't need a bulldozer to move a pebble, the argument will go.

The PAP is a monolithic organisation with various motivations, interests and ideas. Convincing all the key players why an issue that goes to the heart of how the party functions and performs should be discussed, let alone be dealt with, would be like getting an aircraft carrier to change course when no storm is in sight.

A transformation needs an advocate. And with Mr Yeo not having the cachet after losing Aljunied GRC, who else can articulate and drive that change?

As we ponder the question, we can ask another: Where else can it come from?

There are two other sources, both outside the established order.

One, the people: They have to keep the momentum going by engaging the policymakers and politicians more openly and substantially via the media, meet-the-people sessions and public forums. The think-tanks, which mainly focus on affairs outside Singapore, can get into the act by engaging the community on issues that matter.

Two, the opposition: The time has come for them to make that push into national issues. Mr Low Thia Khiang is transitioning from a municipal politician into a national one. It has taken him a long while, nearly 20 years.

And with all the opposition parties showing how it is possible to adeptly utilise the online world this General Election, the biggest communication barrier — that your message has to go through a middleman — is disappearing.

For the time being, all eyes will be on the Workers' Party. How they will perform in Parliament, what ideas they have to improve the lives of Singaporeans, how they will join debate with politicians on the other side of the divide — will show the kind of First World Chamber they have been talking about during the nine days of campaigning.

Will all these happen? For a change, the optimist in me says: Yes.

"he chooses his words with care, wisdom and precision" my foot
 

scroobal

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Balji tone and the comments about 84 and 91 suggest that PAP will remain the same, deaf to the country and maybe waiting for old man to kick the bucket.

And as typical of all SPH trained folks, the last line always contains the insurance as in this case.
 

dankos

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I can hear voices sympathetic to the PAP saying that a victory is a victory, and that taking 81 out of 87 constituencies is a proud achievement by world standards.:confused:

proud achievement? cheating using grc system is it. without grc system, another 15 seats lost minimum. :mad:
 

longbow

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There will be no transformation unless MM wants to. My take is that MM and PM sets the goals - we need pop of 6M by XXXX, GDP growth of XXXXXX, Surplus into coffers of XXXXX. The ministers are there to ensure that these goals are met. No one dares to challenge the dynamic duo. So as much as the ministers and MPs know that they must change, there is little they can do (just keep quiet, cling on for 2 terms and retire with hefty pension).
 

GeylangCheongster

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PN Balji is buddy of disgraced NKF chief T T Durai. He was the PR man for Durai and he also got from Today newspaper an editor named Michelle Ang.

Michelle Ang was found to ghost write letters to the press and used her connection to get them published. This was reported widely in the Wanbao and ShinMin after she was witness in court in the trial.

Balji was also found to have flew first class with Durai using charity funds. This is in the KPMG report. He wasn't punished for this at all.

Remember all this. Who is Balji? You decide
 

kingrant

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There had better be. Ministers can run away to other GRCs but they cannot hide. By 2016, there will be more Opp candidates who are as highly qualified as CSM, TJS, and VW to stand in GRCs to challenge all of them across the board. The next Ministers on the hit-list will be:

1. Lim Swee Say - for his deaf frog remark and his happy CPF statements
2. Wong Kan Seng - for passing the buck to juniors in MSK, for letting in huge numbers of FTs
3. Mah BT - for unaffordable housing and telling lies
4. Yacob - for once in 50 year excuses
5. VB - for YOG excesses, for 3 meals in restaurant, hawker centre or where
6. Raymond Lim - for excessive ERPs, COEs etc.
7. LHL - for retaining redundant MM, SM
8. GCT - for squandering our money on TPL

Come 2016, if nothing has changed, we'll oblige you guys with the marching orders thru the ballot boxes..

To be forewarned is to be forearmed...
 
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steffychun

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There had better be. Ministers can run away to other GRCs but they cannot hide. By 2016, there will be more Opp candidates who are as highly qualified as CSM, TJS, and VW to stand in GRCs to challenge all of them across the board. The next Ministers on the hit-list will be:

1. Lim Swee Say - for his deaf frog remark and his happy CPF statements
2. Wong Kan Seng - for passing the buck to juniors in MSK, for letting in huge numbers of FTs
3. Mah BT - for unaffordable housing and telling lies
4. Yacob - for once in 50 year excuses
5. VB - for YOG excesses, for 3 meals in restaurant, hawker centre or where
6. Raymond Lim - for excessive ERPs, COEs etc.
7. LHL - for retaining redundant MM, SM
8. GCT - for squandering our money on TPL

Come 2016, if nothing has changed, we'll oblige you guys with the marching orders thru the ballot boxes..

To be forewarned is to be forearmed...

Not that simple. Old Man loves GCt--remember he was chosen over Tony Tan to be PM back then.

MM never made waves about WKS evne with Mas' Escape. WKS still in PMO.

Mah--I think MM might kick him, but maybe not.

VB--over spent. So what? MM himself loves to splurge.

Raymond--MM doesnt need transport. He flies from home to office.

LHL--MM will make him deputy MM

TPL--assistant MM.
 

kingrant

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Yr first statement already false, no need to talk of the rest. LKY had preferred Tony Tan then OTC and then GCT. You got it totally tumbalek! It was the 2nd gen team that elected GCT.

Not that simple. Old Man loves GCt--remember he was chosen over Tony Tan to be PM back then.

MM never made waves about WKS evne with Mas' Escape. WKS still in PMO.

Mah--I think MM might kick him, but maybe not.

VB--over spent. So what? MM himself loves to splurge.

Raymond--MM doesnt need transport. He flies from home to office.

LHL--MM will make him deputy MM

TPL--assistant MM.
 
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steffychun

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Yr first statement already false, no need to talk of the rest. LKY had preferred Tony Tan then OTC and then GCT. You got it totally tumbalek! It was the 2nd gen team that elected GCT.

Ok OK, still GCT survived--if not why let him be SM for so long? MM never wanted OTC--he already knew from the start that OTC was a rebel.
 

hotjava

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Ok OK, still GCT survived--if not why let him be SM for so long? MM never wanted OTC--he already knew from the start that OTC was a rebel.

GCT was a compliant seat warmer for LHL. Tony Tan, from a super wealthy family will never acquiesce to be a mere seat warmer.
 

MsDengXiaoPing

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We should all e-mail the feedback unit of the Prime Minister's Office of our delusion with PAP. I did. Not that PM will read our e-mails of frustration, anger and desperation, but everyday overwhelming the junior executive who does will probably provoke some reaction. A peaceful e-mail demonstration, if you will. The site of the Feedback Unit of PMO is: http://www.pmo.gov.sg/content/pmosite/feedback.html
 

MsDengXiaoPing

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Joy wrote:

Complain all you want. I voted for PAP. So did 60% of Singaporeans. If you think 5 years time, you can vote PAP out, forget it.

Why? Because PAP will gerrymander again and redraw boundaries. Only this time, things will be simple: only ONE big GRC called Tanjong Pagar. You, Opposition people, must field 87 candidates to contest for this ONE GRC.
 
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