Overspending on defense, underspending on healthcare and elderly weakens singapore

[TopSage]

I.am waiting for the day the SAF decides to buy F35.
This will mark a deadly mistake by our leaders
to buy this expensive controversial platform when
our public hospitals are overcrowded and public
buses packed like sardines

If they ignore all these problems and spend the money
excessively on defense. the citizens will not let them go so easily
unlike in the past, there will be severe repucussions.
just look at how under invested we are in the social infrastructur, the elderly
have to collect cardboard boxes to survive...

actually I will be surprise Minister Ng Eng Hen makes the same mistake
as previous defense ministers and does not rein in this lopsided excessive defense spending.

there is great disquiet among the citizens who now have to struggle for a living seeing
excessive spending on defense that is not necessary. The great danger is they will lose patience with the govt and put a stop to all this.

 

[leetahbar]

Re: Overspending on defense, underspending on healthcare and elderly weakens singap

I.am waiting for the day the SAF decides to buy F35.
This will mark a deadly mistake by our leaders
to buy this expensive controversial platform when
our public hospitals are overcrowded and public
buses packed like sardines

If they ignore all these problems and spend the money
excessively on defense. the citizens will not let them go so easily
unlike in the past, there will be severe repucussions.
just look at how under invested we are in the social infrastructur, the elderly
have to collect cardboard boxes to survive...

actually I will be surprise Minister Ng Eng Hen makes the same mistake
as previous defense ministers and does not rein in this lopsided excessive defense spending.

there is great disquiet among the citizens who now have to struggle for a living seeing
excessive spending on defense that is not necessary. The great danger is they will lose patience with the govt and put a stop to all this.

pls don't tempt miss vivien to repeat his question: you want your meals in hawker centre or in restaurant?

they wasted millions in YOG without bating an eye. but when it comes to welfare for the poor and needies, they can argue their reasons over a $50 increment.

this are the fuckers who think their million $ pays are worth every dime if not even more. let's hope when they kong off, they can take every cents with them into their 2 x 6 ft coffin.

 

[Leongsam]

Re: Overspending on defense, underspending on healthcare and elderly weakens singap

Defense is far more important than healthcare and the elderly.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

Re: Overspending on defense, underspending on healthcare and elderly weakens singap

A strong defence force is an absolute necessity for Singapore. The only issue I have with is the lack of safeguards to prevent wastage of resources. The question of GLCs unfairly profiteering from lucrative defence contracts also needs to be looked into.

It looks to me like Singapore's military is growing into a giant elephant managed by people who don't have any combat experience, run it like any other ordinary bureaucratic agency, and don't understand its critical value to our survival.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

Re: Overspending on defense, underspending on healthcare and elderly weakens singap

Defense is far more important than healthcare and the elderly.

Balls to you lah. If we lose our soul as a nation, what is there left worth defending?

 

[Leongsam]

Re: Overspending on defense, underspending on healthcare and elderly weakens singap

Balls to you lah. If we lose our soul as a nation, what is there left worth defending?

"Soul" is nothing more than some airy fairy pie in the sky bullshit.

"Nationhood" is pretty meaningless in this day and age too.

The key to a contented and fulfilling life is :

1. Financial independence.
2. A happy family.
3. Good health
4. A purpose for living.
5. A safe environment.

Once these factors are fulfilled, it doesn't matter one iota whether you're living in Singapore, Timbuktu or NYC.

 

[escher]

Re: Overspending on defense, underspending on healthcare and elderly weakens singap

TALK TALK TALK TALK

Let the dying of smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY start slow and painfully to send him on his way to the ghouls and demons all out to rape and screw him in his arsehole and eyeballs and nostrils

Let the yum senging begin and never end when we see the hooting and hooting of those PAP bags of excrements hooting with their sharp sharp knives
Let the shitting and peeing into the pants of Ah Loon begin and end with him joining his smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY

yum sengs after yum sengs after yum sengs

 

[TopSage]

Re: Overspending on defense, underspending on healthcare and elderly weakens singap

A strong defence force is an absolute necessity for Singapore. The only issue I have with is the lack of safeguards to prevent wastage of resources. The question of GLCs unfairly profiteering from lucrative defence contracts also needs to be looked into.

It looks to me like Singapore's military is growing into a giant elephant managed by people who don't have any combat experience, run it like any other ordinary bureaucratic agency, and don't understand its critical value to our survival.

We need strong defense to achieve a deterrent effect. Nobody dispute this and we all serve NS to contribute to strong defense. We are all committed. But
are we trading off too much in other areas? Do we ask the same hard questions ? One artillery gun
that most likely ends up obsolete can buy 10 x-ray machines And hire radiologists so that Singaporeans who get sick are treated better .

I am not convinced defense dollars are scrutinized well enough and the total amount appears
excessive And way beyond what is needed to defend the country. If you look at the amount over
last 2 decades it is even worse. The books should be opened so that all Singaporeans can see what is going on. They cannot hide in a cloak of secrecy because it simply does not make sense to spend o secret edge and hide it as there is no deterrent value in keeping so much of it under wraps. The logic is all wrong.

It takes real leadership to reform all this and realign spending priorities to achieve the best outcome for Singaporeans. In defense once you allocate the a sizeable portion of the budget there will be little interest to save money as many make a career out of spending the allocated sum and defense contractors will always come up with sexy proposals to use up your money. The mindset has to change. Our transport, healthcare and elderly care are in near neglected states given govt spend the least amount among developed countries on some of these and we have one of the highest per capita spending on defense. Such a path is not socially, economically and politically sustainable.

 

[Leongsam]

Re: Overspending on defense, underspending on healthcare and elderly weakens singap

One artillery gun
that most likely ends up obsolete can buy 10 x-ray machines And hire radiologists so that Singaporeans who get sick are treated better .

Radiography equipment becomes obsolete pretty quickly too as new technologies emerge at regular intervals.

Besides the people that matter already have access to the best and latest medical technology should they need it while those who are missing out aren't really that important in the first place.

Why would any country spend hundreds of thousands of dollars using equipment that costs millions to treat someone who is just a taxi driver or security guard or cleaner. It doesn't make economic sense at all.

 

[TopSage]

Re: Overspending on defense, underspending on healthcare and elderly weakens singap

Defense is far more important than healthcare and the elderly.

More important is a vague characterization. The safety of your home is more important than having an air con but you don't have to spend more than what you spend on an air con to secure your home.

 

[TopSage]

Re: Overspending on defense, underspending on healthcare and elderly weakens singap

Radiography equipment becomes obsolete pretty quickly too as new technologies emerge at regular intervals.

Besides the people that matter already have access to the best and latest medical technology should they need it while those who are missing out aren't really that important in the first place.

Why would any country spend hundreds of thousands of dollars using equipment that costs millions to treat someone who is just a taxi driver or security guard or cleaner. It doesn't make economic sense at all.

If they are unimportant economically just let them die to save the money?
Once war breaks out, as individuals, it make more sense to shift our money out and leave...why risk our lives.
.
If we apply your logic consistently across everything, we shouldn't spend a single cent on defense. Because all the pple worth saving can easily transfer their money out and leave unscathe so why would they harm themselves and put their own lives at risk?

 

[Leongsam]

Re: Overspending on defense, underspending on healthcare and elderly weakens singap

If they are unimportant economically just let them die to save the money?
Once war breaks out, as individuals, it make more sense to shift our money out and leave...why risk our lives.
.
If we apply your logic consistently across everything, we shouldn't spend a single cent on defense. Because all the pple worth saving can easily transfer their money out and leave unscathe so why would they harm themselves and put their own lives at risk?

Defense is needed to protect assets as a whole. It's not about individuals as many may die in the process.

Defending a country from invasion is like defending a business from burglars, hackers and saboteurs.

Without some form of defense, there is no foreign investment, real estate will have no value and the economy as we know it will not function.

 

[TopSage]

Re: Overspending on defense, underspending on healthcare and elderly weakens singap

Defense is needed to protect assets as a whole. It's not about individuals as many may die in the process.

Defending a country from invasion is like defending a business from burglars, hackers and saboteurs.

Without some form of defense, there is no foreign investment, real estate wilit makes l have no value and the economy as we know it will not function.

if defense.is about defending businesses and
somebody else's assets, it makes even more.sense to rightsize our defense
budget and not spend a dollar more

 

[xebay11]

Re: Overspending on defense, underspending on healthcare and elderly weakens singap

Defense is far more important than healthcare and the elderly.

True, but spending F35s to combat stone throwing enemies is also not the way to go.

 

[Froggy]

Re: Overspending on defense, underspending on healthcare and elderly weakens singap

"Soul" is nothing more than some airy fairy pie in the sky bullshit.

"Nationhood" is pretty meaningless in this day and age too.

The key to a contented and fulfilling life is :

1. Financial independence.
2. A happy family.
3. Good health
4. A purpose for living.
5. A safe environment.

Once these factors are fulfilled, it doesn't matter one iota whether you're living in Singapore, Timbuktu or NYC.

There you go bosssam, so why the fuck spend so much for defense?

 

[winners]

Re: Overspending on defense, underspending on healthcare and elderly weakens singap

I.am waiting for the day the SAF decides to buy F35.
This will mark a deadly mistake by our leaders
to buy this expensive controversial platform when
our public hospitals are overcrowded and public
buses packed like sardines

If they ignore all these problems and spend the money
excessively on defense. the citizens will not let them go so easily
unlike in the past, there will be severe repucussions.
just look at how under invested we are in the social infrastructur, the elderly
have to collect cardboard boxes to survive...

Hello, Pinky already said last night that "Don't ask the government to solve all your problems." So, what else do you want?

Pinky is really a bastard. He does not allow the public to implement the rules but yet tells you not to expect the government to solve all the problems. Fuck to him.

Take the COE as an example. Almost everyone was saying that the cost of the COEs must be paid upfront and not allowed to be tied to the car loans, but did the government listen? Fuck you Pinky.

 

[Froggy]

Re: Overspending on defense, underspending on healthcare and elderly weakens singap

I.am waiting for the day the SAF decides to buy F35.

Wait no more Topsage, PAP already paid for being in the program long time ago and its a well know fact PAP is poised to purchase 75 units of these.

Interesting read on this subject

http://breakingdefense.com/2013/03/25/singapore-poised-to-announce-purchase-of-12-f-35bs/

http://syedsoutsidethebox.blogspot.com/2013/04/singapore-to-buy-f35-fighter-jets.html

Also the Pantagon is considering to cancell the F35 program as it is known as the world's worst new warplane see

https://medium.com/war-is-boring/5c95d45f86a5

and

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...-big-to-kill-as-lockheed-hooks-45-states.html

 

[TopSage]

Re: Overspending on defense, underspending on healthcare and elderly weakens singap

as an ordinary citizen, I am waiting to.see.how
they proceed
dun forget the airforce already spend.a lot on F15
...
how far down this road they.want to walk we.will see

Wait no more Topsage, PAP already paid for being in the program long time ago and its a well know fact PAP is poised to purchase 75 units of these.

Interesting read on this subject

http://breakingdefense.com/2013/03/25/singapore-poised-to-announce-purchase-of-12-f-35bs/

http://syedsoutsidethebox.blogspot.com/2013/04/singapore-to-buy-f35-fighter-jets.html

Also the Pantagon is considering to cancell the F35 program as it is known as the world's worst new warplane see

https://medium.com/war-is-boring/5c95d45f86a5

and

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...-big-to-kill-as-lockheed-hooks-45-states.html

 

[3_M]

Re: Overspending on defense, underspending on healthcare and elderly weakens singap

Defense is needed to protect assets as a whole. It's not about individuals as many may die in the process.

Defending a country from invasion is like defending a business from burglars, hackers and saboteurs.

Without some form of defense, there is no foreign investment, real estate will have no value and the economy as we know it will not function.

No one is against defense but the issue is unnecessary extravagant. . If SAF is 3 notches above it regional rivals, it probably pointless to spend that extra billions just to push it up to 5 notches. If one bullet is enough to kill, it doesn;t make much difference if you shoot the dead body 7 times, it just a waste of bullets.

 

[BuiKia]

Re: Overspending on defense, underspending on healthcare and elderly weakens singap

I spoke to a MINDEF personnel recently. He boasted that working in MINDEF is good and yearly bonus is around 7 months! I dun think any other government agency pays that much or is it only MINDEF or maybe this guy is just pulling a fast one.

Anyone can confirm this?