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[makapaaa]

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<!-- START OF : div id="storytext"--><!-- more than 4 paragraphs -->I REFER to Mr Paul Chan's Forum letter yesterday ("Integration and immigration: Copying the US won't work") and Mr Ngiam Tong Dow's commentary last Thursday ("Lest we become strangers in our own land").
Better-educated citizens can see that Singapore has become a huge transit lounge in an airport terminal and, understandably, they may lose the sense of belonging and loyalty to the country. They can easily migrate and unwittingly create a brain drain. This vacuum will be filled with more migrants, causing more social disunity. Those remaining are trapped.
When do we reach critical mass? Is there a critical rate of influx? Do we have a demographic tracking of immigrant breakdown: qualifications, the numbers who are permanent residents, the numbers who are new citizens, classified into years of citizenship? How do all these relate to the GDP growth? How do we compare with other small countries?
Finally, after the mistake of "stopping at two", we should not make the mistake of not stopping at 5 million.
Jack Chew

 

[makapaaa]

<TABLE style="WIDTH: 100%" class=Post cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top" align=left>My wife and I were walking in Hougang when a young girl came up chasing after us, saying she and her sister has one last packet of ice cream as they needed the money to survive. She spoke 'Chinglish'. We relented and her 'sister', much taller...came with a trolley and polyfom box...and out she whipped a small packet of ice cream....and said 'help...this cost us S$12.90/- and we sell you for S$13/-'. She spoke 'Singlish'. We looked at the small packet of ice cream...and see it unbranded and yet they wanted to sell to us at astronomical prices. We felt this is day light robbery...and to think of both girls speaking different English and claiming to be sisters...made us very worried. More young Singaporeans will learn and weaved into vice behaviors. This is so unlike our Singapore. Is this what our young needs? To be able to do such for their future survival amidst the huge numbers that they will anyhow face in future anyway? We thought that was the end of it....and we walked further and just barely 2 blocks away....a boy at the 4th storey of another block called out loudly to us...to stop...listen to him, and he had something to sell to us....we looked up....and walked off....he spoke in 'Chinglish'. This is something very odd for it is the first time we ever come across, and within a lesser than 60m distance....Would this infusion of foreigners right into our midst bring good, for the better or for the worse? Would their young be teaching our young better survival skills or would our young be led astray? The sudden appearances of so many over so short a time is indeed worrying. It has begun to take root...given the ice-cream selling we encountered.
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[makapaaa]

totally agree with Bbaannmm. He mentioned about foreigners multiplying here. I think for these foreigners, PRs or whatsoever, Singapore makes a wonderful place for procreation. While the locals are shunning away from having babies, these foreigners are doing just the opposite, which fits the authorities plan perfectly to increase the population.

Just look at the foreign Indian & Chinese women in public. You know what's their standard SOP item? It's a pram!! Everywhere we go, these women are seen pushing their strollers around with their offsprings inside. And these women beam with pride! Cos they know their offsprings are are going to give the local Singaporeans a run for their money in the very near future. These foreign women are probably laughing at Singaporeans, who are in a very pathetic state. Let me tell you, many PRs look down on the locals, cos they found our cultures low class, compared to theirs. And they also know about the plight that we are in and the advantage that they have in this country.

Their husbands are making fantastic cash in their offices and companies. Money, no problem. Money, more than enough. Look at the Indian PRs' banking activties. It will shock you! They have loads of wealth. They dont bank in peanuts like us Singaporeans, they do it by the thousands. They still have excess to send back to India. The women themselves produce children very efficiently given the 'very comfortable environment' in S'pore. They remain housewives and roam the streets with their offsprings in strollers. What worries do they have? They are in paradise.

Yes, having been to India on many occasions myself, it's really "Incredible India" as the advertisement goes! Its incredibly filthy, dirty and undeveloped! Such low standard of living there. Its cities are crap! Its a just of country made up of filthy villages. So the people who come from there will surely find Singapore a heaven. That's why many Indians are becoming PRs and procreate here very efficiently. But ask them to become a citizen, they will not, cos they are still patriotic to their filthy country.


Apart from them adding to the alarming increase of foreigners, their offsprings are going to make the situation worse. Hear that local parents? Competition for schools is gonna get worse in the near future!

 

[halsey02]

Finally, after the mistake of "stopping at two", we should not make the mistake of not stopping at 5 million.
Jack Chew[/QUOTE]

Stopping at TWO, whose mistake was that..now we who had gone through that generation of stopping at two & not to mentioned the countless embryoes who never made it & the countless lives that were terminated...

We sinGaporeans have to pay for that SINs?..

 

[Glaringly]

If there such a thing call critical mass, in terms of country size and population.

Then it must be.

Inversely proportional to the ability of the ruling government to plan and think for it's citizen.

 

[takcheksian]

Critical mass for Singapore doesn't exist.

As long as PAP is in power, whether we have 1m, 10m, 100m we will still be oppressed and bullied and cheated.

Anyway PAP needs to increase rental profits indefinitely, so it needs to keep giving PR to foreigners. How about 100m Banglas?

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<!-- START OF : div id="storytext"--><!-- more than 4 paragraphs -->I REFER to Mr Paul Chan's Forum letter yesterday ("Integration and immigration: Copying the US won't work") and Mr Ngiam Tong Dow's commentary last Thursday ("Lest we become strangers in our own land").
Better-educated citizens can see that Singapore has become a huge transit lounge in an airport terminal and, understandably, they may lose the sense of belonging and loyalty to the country. They can easily migrate and unwittingly create a brain drain. This vacuum will be filled with more migrants, causing more social disunity. Those remaining are trapped.
When do we reach critical mass? Is there a critical rate of influx? Do we have a demographic tracking of immigrant breakdown: qualifications, the numbers who are permanent residents, the numbers who are new citizens, classified into years of citizenship? How do all these relate to the GDP growth? How do we compare with other small countries?
Finally, after the mistake of "stopping at two", we should not make the mistake of not stopping at 5 million.
Jack Chew

 

[macky888]

If true blue Singaporeans dun vote for a change in the coming election, I suspect we will lose this chance forever...

Because by then (the next one in 2014 and beyond), there would be too many foreigners-turned-citizens who can counter against disgruntled local citizens.

 

[ahleebabasingaporethief]

If true blue Singaporeans dun vote for a change in the coming election, I suspect we will lose this chance forever...

Because by then (the next one in 2014 and beyond), there would be too many foreigners-turned-citizens who can counter against disgruntled local citizens.

Agree with you.

For those that want change, you people better start educating your neigbourhhood aunties and uncles.

 

[SotongMee]

Invite 10million Bangalas on pee-sai island which cannot even grow enough vegetables to feed 1million?

It would not be long before they start eating their own shit and then themselves.

Critical mass for Singapore doesn't exist.

As long as PAP is in power, whether we have 1m, 10m, 100m we will still be oppressed and bullied and cheated.

Anyway PAP needs to increase rental profits indefinitely, so it needs to keep giving PR to foreigners. How about 100m Banglas?