• IP addresses are NOT logged in this forum so there's no point asking. Please note that this forum is full of homophobes, racists, lunatics, schizophrenics & absolute nut jobs with a smattering of geniuses, Chinese chauvinists, Moderate Muslims and last but not least a couple of "know-it-alls" constantly sprouting their dubious wisdom. If you believe that content generated by unsavory characters might cause you offense PLEASE LEAVE NOW! Sammyboy Admin and Staff are not responsible for your hurt feelings should you choose to read any of the content here.

    The OTHER forum is HERE so please stop asking.

Not the Presidential Election poll

Who will succeed Not-My-President Halimah?

  • Lightning bolt-backed candidate

    Votes: 6 54.5%
  • Former civil servant who manage reserves and has hot young chick

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Former insurance man and disgruntled lightning bolt-member

    Votes: 4 36.4%

  • Total voters
    11

LITTLEREDDOT

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
The original polls got removed.

Presidential Election Poll 1: Who would you vote for?
https://www.sammyboy.com/threads/presidential-election-poll-1-who-would-you-vote-for.346727/

Screenshot 2023-08-20 15.54.25.png


Presidential Election Poll 2: Who do you think the voters will vote for?
https://www.sammyboy.com/threads/pr...-think-the-voters-will-vote-for.346728/page-2

Screenshot 2023-08-20 15.54.27.png
 

LITTLEREDDOT

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset

Important to build culture of respect and compassion, deepen skills: Tharman​

202308207347241520230820-ga36824.jpg


Mr Tharman Shanmugaratnam (centre) at a dialogue at Kong Meng San Phor Kark See Monastery in Bright Hill Road, Bishan, on Aug 20. ST PHOTO: GAVIN FOO
Syarafana.png


Syarafana Shafeeq

August 20, 2023

SINGAPORE – Presidential hopeful Tharman Shanmugaratnam said on Sunday that he will support all efforts and initiatives by organisations that promote a culture of respect in Singapore, if he is elected.
The former senior minister was speaking to an audience of more than 100 Buddhist leaders and young people in a dialogue at Singapore’s largest Buddhist temple, the Kong Meng San Phor Kark See Monastery.
He said that while Singapore has made good material progress, its people must now focus on compassion, care and respect for one another in the next phase of its development.
Respect is very important for the poor and elderly, different religions, races and cultures, he said. “Deep respect, not just... tolerate each other (or) live with each other.”
He added: “We must come closer to each other in the next 20 years.”
Mr Tharman took questions from the floor on topics such as religion, mental health and leadership.
An audience member brought up the issue of young people losing interest in spirituality, in a society that is focused on material success.

Mr Tharman said that Singapore has progressed very far, noting that people were very poor in the past and wanted to work hard to improve their standard of living. They wanted to have higher incomes, to buy their own homes, and for their children to do better – and they have succeeded.
“Now, we are at a stage where I think we can have more balance. And this must be not just in the mind, but we need to make some changes.”
Stressing that he was speaking as a private citizen and not a presidential candidate – as the latter should not talk about policy – he said that Singapore’s education system has too much pressure and has it too early, and he would like to see children have more time to develop in, and explore, other aspects of life.


“It’s not good for the children... And because they focus so much on the examinations, they also don’t spend time on other things.”
When asked about his thoughts on the role of religion in society, he said that in societies where people do not have some spiritual beliefs, they may be more materialistic and individualistic.
He said: “The spiritual side of a society is also a way in which people feel there’s some relationship with each other.”
One may be a carpenter or factory worker, and another a professor, but all meet together in the same room as equals and remain close.
He added that there is a social dimension to spirituality that brings people together, and this is important as it creates social strength.
202308203189029620230820-ga37323_2.jpg


Mr Tharman Shanmugaratnam (second from left) and his wife Jane Yumiko Ittogi leaving Kong Meng San Phor Kark See Monastery at Bright Hill after a dialogue on Aug 20. ST PHOTO: GAVIN FOO
One young person asked for advice on navigating uncertainty and anxiety in today’s economic climate amid pandemics and silent recessions. He said that his peers worry about keeping their jobs.
Mr Tharman said it is important for people in Singapore to develop deeper skills and expertise in what they are good at.
“It is a very human thing – when you are good at something, you can display it to others... People have to concentrate now on just deepening their skills.
“Never mind what their examination grades were – once you start working, you have to put effort into deepening your skills.”
It is important to engage in constant learning and trying to understand something, Mr Tharman added. In the process, deepening skills will become a way of life, and it is a satisfying way of life.
 

LITTLEREDDOT

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Tan Kin Lian is behaving more like an MP than a President.

Quote:
"Under the Constitution, the president does not possess any executive power to advance his or her own policy agenda. The president is responsible for safeguarding the national reserves, and the integrity of the public service.

Mr Tan has previously acknowledged this, but said “a great deal can be done through talking (using) the influence of the president’s office”.

On Sunday, he said: “I do know that I should not interfere with government policies, but I will take the opportunity in my interaction with the prime minister and the ministers to bring this point across.”"

Tan Kin Lian to raise concerns over CPF, NS with Govt if he becomes president​

IMG2023081937960336pi11GI3PJ6S.jpg


This comes as many of Mr Tan Kin Lian's supporters have raised these concerns with him through his social media pages. PHOTO: BERITA HARIAN
Andrew Wong

August 20, 2023

SINGAPORE – The withdrawal age for Central Provident Fund (CPF) savings and the length of national service (NS) are among issues that presidential candidate Tan Kin Lian said he will bring up with the Government if he becomes head of state.
This is bcause many of his supporters have raised these concerns with him through his social media pages, and he has good ideas about these policies, said Mr Tan, 75.
Speaking at a walkabout at Chong Pang Market and Food Centre on Sunday, Mr Tan said he has received feedback from “many people (to) do something about the CPF (as they) need to get the money out earlier”.
The former chief executive of NTUC Income said that on the CPF’s rules he is “quite clear what a good way is – it’s not the current way”.
Similarly, Mr Tan, said he is sure that feedback he has received calling for NS obligations to be shortened “echoes the views of tens of thousands of Singaporeans every year”.
“We should let our young people serve the country, but they don’t need to serve for two years, and the country can afford to pay them better allowance,” he said. “I (have held) this opinion for 20 years.”
Under the Constitution, the president does not possess any executive power to advance his or her own policy agenda. The president is responsible for safeguarding the national reserves, and the integrity of the public service.

Mr Tan has previously acknowledged this, but said “a great deal can be done through talking (using) the influence of the president’s office”.
On Sunday, he said: “I do know that I should not interfere with government policies, but I will take the opportunity in my interaction with the prime minister and the ministers to bring this point across.”
Mr Tan also said his team is firming up plans to hold an election rally on Friday. While the location has not been determined, he is lining up speakers and hopes supporters “will turn up to fill up the whole stadium when we speak”.
Among the speakers will be his proposer for his candidacy, Mr Tan Jee Say, who founded the now-defunct Singaporeans First political party, and his seconder, Mr Lim Tean, the founder of Peoples Voice party.
The Malay community and other minority communities will also be represented at the rally, said Mr Tan.
The Elections Department said on Aug 12 that in-person rallies are not encouraged for the presidential election. This is because rallies, by their nature and format, may be divisive and not congruent with the unifying role of the elected presidency.
Candidates have instead been encouraged to use broadcasts and social media to reach out to voters, with the first of these broadcasts to be televised on Aug 24.
ELD has said that candidates wishing to hold physical election meetings will have to obtain the approval of the premises or site owner before applying for a police permit.
 

LITTLEREDDOT

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset

Presidential hopeful Ng Kok Song announces proposer, seconder and assenters​

2023081832719598snapseed2.jpg


Mr Ng Kok Song received his certificate of eligibility to run in the election last Friday. ST PHOTO: GIN TAY
jean_iau_0.png


Jean Iau

August 21, 2023

SINGAPORE – Presidential hopeful Ng Kok Song, 75, on Monday unveiled his team of proposer, seconder and eight assenters, which include former presidential hopeful Mohamed Salleh Marican.
On the eve of nomination day, Mr Ng, the former chief investment officer at GIC announced that his proposer will be Mr Quah Wee Ghee who co-founded global asset management company Avanda Investment Management with him.
Mr Quah is also the former president of Public Markets at GIC and is serving on the boards of OCBC and Bank of Singapore.
Mr Ng’s seconder is geriatrician Dr Carol Tan, a specialist at The Good Life Medical Center.
Dr Tan has been involved in the licensing and setting up of standards as well as the financing framework for community services including nursing homes, community hospitals, daycare centres, day rehabilitation, dementia, hospice and home help services, said Mr Ng’s media team on Monday.
His eight assenters comprise; Justice of Peace Ameerali Abdeali; chairman of Fullerton Fund Management Ho Tian Yee; former chairman of Montfort School Management Committee Chua Cher Choon; founder and chief executive of Second Chance Properties and former presidential hopeful Mohamed Salleh Marican; philanthropist Margaret Chan; founding member of Association of Muslim Professionals Abdul Hamid Abdullah; CJ Koh professor Tjio Hans from NUS Law; and Chairman of DP Architects Angelene Chan.
Mr Ng received his certificate of eligibility to run in the election last Friday. He announced his bid to run on July 19.

Former senior minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam and former NTUC Income chief Tan Kin Lian also received their certificates of eligibility ahead of Nomination Day on Aug 22.
Singapore is expected to see a three-way fight at the polls on Sept 1.
 

gsbslut

Stupidman
Loyal
this cock guy is a cockup fellow
i simply hates how he looks and his unchiobu girlfriend
ptui
 

laksaboy

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
202308203189029620230820-ga37323_2.jpg


Wow, Sinkie presidential election campaigning campaign until 光明山? :o-o:

Looks like the monks will vote for him, and also the unthinking Buddhists who emulate whatever their monks do. :cool:

shi-ming-yi-bc0e1660-82e0-4552-9842-efc5ca15289-resize-750.jpeg
 

LITTLEREDDOT

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset

AWARE S'pore raises concern about PE2023 candidate who has 'history of objectifying women'​

Aware also questioned why the Presidential Elections Committee granted this candidate a certificate of eligibility.
Joshua Lee
August 21, 2023
aware.png


The Association of Women for Action and Research (AWARE) has raised concerns about a Presidential Election candidate who "has a history of objectifying women", but has been cleared to participate in the Presidential Election.


The organisation, which advocates gender equality and women's rights, did not mention the candidate's name, but their tweet came just hours after presidential hopeful Tan Kin Lian addressed comments about his previous social media posts on "pretty girls".
Tan said that his posts were done in a "light" and "enjoyable" way.
He also claimed that only a very "small minority" of people were uncomfortable with his posts.

Act of objectifying women​


"Consistently posting about 'pretty girls', recording videos of women in public without their consent, or commenting about their appearance isn’t merely a matter of personal preference or light 'amusement'," said AWARE.
The organisation said that it's "an act of objectifying women" which reduces them to their appearances for entertainment:

"Such behaviour from anyone in or aspiring to a position of influence suggests it's acceptable to trivialise women and overlook their myriad abilities and contributions."

AWARE also highlighted what it called a "systemic" issue: The granting of a certificate of eligibility by the Presidential Elections Committee to the candidate.
In issuing the certificate to the three candidates, the Presidential Elections Committee said it was satisfied that they were men of "integrity, good character, and reputation".
AWARE claimed that this suggests a "systemic endorsement" of unacceptable views and behaviours.

"Consider broader implications"​


AWARE urged the Presidential Elections Committee to "thoroughly consider the broader implications of such endorsements in the future", and go beyond financial and management qualifications.
As of late afternoon, the tweet had received 50 retweets and 100 likes.
Mothership has reached out to Tan's team and the Elections Department for comment.
 

LITTLEREDDOT

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
How the voters will vote:

For Tharman Shanmugaratnam
PAP supporters
The establishment i.e. civil servants who depend on the PAP for their iron rice bowl.
Businessmen and professionals who do not want their businesses and jobs to be affected by political disruptions
Most Pioneer and Merdeka generations who voted for Lee Kuan Yew their whole lives.
About half of the women who object to Tan Kin Lian objectifying pretty woman
The Indian voters
The other minority races: Malays, Eurasions, Others

For Ng Kok Song
The pro-establishment but anti-PAP
Moderates and neutrals who do not want a pro-PAP nor an anti-PAP candidate.
The remaining half of the women who object to Tan Kin Lian objectifying pretty woman and
also support Sybil Lau for being able to find such a rich sugar daddy
Half the Chinese voters

For Tan Kin Lian
All who voted against the PAP
The anti-establishment
The anti-vaxers like Iris Koh
The sandwiched middle-class who are impacted by the cost of living
Those who lost their jobs or university places to foreign talents
All those who want to know the exact size of Singapore's reserves
All the chee ko peks
Half the Chinese voters
 
Last edited:

LITTLEREDDOT

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
https://www.aware.org.sg/2023/08/statement-on-the-presidential-elections-2023/

Statement on the Presidential Elections 2023​

August 21st, 2023

We share the public’s concerns that a candidate, who has a history of objectifying women, has been cleared to participate in the upcoming Presidential Elections.

Consistently posting about “pretty girls”, recording videos of women in public without their consent, or commenting about their appearance isn’t merely a matter of personal preference or light “amusement”. It’s an act of objectifying women, reducing them solely to their appearances for their personal entertainment. Such behaviour from anyone in or aspiring to a position of influence suggests that it’s acceptable to trivialise women and overlook their myriad abilities and contributions.

But here’s a more systemic worry: The granting of a Certificate of Eligibility to such an individual doesn’t only reflect on him but suggests a systemic endorsement. It signifies that these views and behaviours are not just acceptable, but perhaps even acceptable enough for a potential presidency.

Do we want a society where behaviours that objectify half its population get a tacit nod? Or do we push for a nation that evaluates every individual beyond the surface level, acknowledging their full worth and potential? Our President should embody the values, ethics, and principles that reflect the nation we want to be.

We urge the Presidential Election Commission to thoroughly consider the broader implications of such endorsements in the future. The assessment process should not only take into account financial and management qualifications but also wider societal impacts to ensure our leadership truly upholds the values of respect, equality, and dignity for all Singaporeans.
 

LITTLEREDDOT

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset

Tan Kin Lian addresses criticisms over Facebook posts on ‘pretty girls’​


zhaki_abdullah.png

Zhaki Abdullah

August 21, 2023

SINGAPORE - Presidential hopeful Tan Kin Lian, 75, has dismissed criticisms of his Facebook posts that mention pretty girls, saying only a small minority are uncomfortable with them.
On Monday, Mr Tan addressed the issue after a TikTok video compiling several of such posts went viral over the weekend. It has been viewed more than 225,000 times as of Monday evening.
The former NTUC Income chief executive has occasionally made references to “pretty girls”, “pretty joggers” and “pretty slim girls” on his public Facebook page. There have been at least 18 such posts since 2022, and five since the start of 2023.
Most visitors to his page found such posts “quite light (and) quite enjoyable”, Mr Tan told reporters during a walkabout at West Coast Market Square.
“There will be a few people who feel uncomfortable, but that is a very small minority,” he said in response to a question about these posts.
“(The) majority actually find that to be quite okay – quite fun.”
Mr Tan said such posts are how he builds his online audience, and that he has other posts, such as those about his meals “that bring in 100,000 people, half a million people... simple posts”.

This aspect of Mr Tan’s social media activity has raised eyebrows in recent days, particularly since he was deemed eligible by the Presidential Elections Committee (PEC) on Aug 18 to contest the presidency.
A thread on online forum Reddit about Mr Tan’s more colourful posts has drawn over 1,600 upvotes since it was started on Friday.
Some commenters on both the TikTok video and the Reddit thread asked how the PEC decided that Mr Tan qualifies to run in the election. In the certificates of eligibility issued to Mr Tan and the other eligible candidates, the PEC said it is “satisfied that you are a man of integrity, good character and reputation”.

On Monday, the Association of Women for Action and Research (Aware) said it shared the public’s concerns that a candidate who has a history of objectifying women has been cleared to participate in the presidential election.
The gender equality group said that consistently posting about “pretty girls”, recording videos of women in public without their consent or commenting about their appearance reduces them solely to their appearances for personal entertainment, and suggests that it is acceptable to trivialise women.
“Yet here’s a more systemic worry: The granting of a Certificate of Eligibility to such an individual doesn’t only reflect on him but suggests a systemic endorsement,” it said in a Facebook post that linked a news article about the TikTok video.
This signifies that such behaviour is not just acceptable, but perhaps even agreeable enough for a potential president to have, said Aware. It urged the PEC to consider the broader implications of such endorsements in the future.
“The president should embody the values, ethics, and principles that reflect the nation we want to be,” it added.

The Straits Times has contacted the Elections Department and the PEC for comment on the concerns raised by Aware and the public.
On Monday, Mr Tan said people who dislike his posts and “pass nasty comments” should stay away from his Facebook page.
“Some of the people actually do it because they are malicious; they just want to make me look bad,” he said.
“So I ignore malicious people who are out to create trouble for me, so long as the majority of the people find that those (posts) are quite harmless.”
 

sbfuncle

Alfrescian
Loyal
How the voters will vote:

For Tharman Shanmugaratnam
PAP supporters
The establishment i.e. civil servants who depend on the PAP for their iron rice bowl.
Businessmen and professionals who do not want their businesses and jobs to be affected by political disruptions
Most Pioneer and Merdeka generations who voted for Lee Kuan Yew their whole lives.
About half of the women who object to Tan Kin Lian objectifying pretty woman
The Indian voters

For Ng Kok Song
The pro-establishment but anti-PAP
Moderates and neutrals who do not want a pro-PAP nor an anti-PAP candidate.
The remaining half of the women who object to Tan Kin Lian objectifying pretty woman and
also support Sybil Lau for being able to find such a rich sugar daddy
Half the Chinese voters

For Tan Kin Lian
All who voted against the PAP
The anti-establishment
The anti-vaxers like Irish Koh
The sandwiched middle-class who are impacted by the cost of living
Those who lost their jobs or university places to foreign talents
All the chee ko peks
Half the Chinese voters
For tharman need to add the malays
 

LITTLEREDDOT

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset

Certificate of eligibility for Tan Kin Lian not an endorsement of his social media posts: Presidential Elections Committee​

zhaki_abdullah.png

Zhaki Abdullah

August 21, 2023

SINGAPORE - The issuance of a certificate of eligibility to presidential hopeful Tan Kin Lian does not an amount to an endorsement of his social media posts, the Presidential Elections Committee (PEC) said on Monday.
In a statement, the PEC said it does not go through every applicant’s past social media posts before issuing or declining a certificate of eligibility.
The matter of Mr Tan’s social media posts came to the fore on Monday, after a TikTok video compiling several of his posts went viral over the weekend, having been viewed more than 225,000 times as at Monday evening.
The former NTUC Income chief executive has occasionally made references to “pretty girls”, “pretty joggers” and “pretty slim girls” on his public Facebook page. There have been at least 18 such posts since 2022, and five since the start of 2023.
The PEC said that where comments made by an applicant on social media or in other media are specifically brought to its attention before a certificate of eligibility is issued or declined, the PEC would consider them in its assessment of the applicant’s eligibility.
After a certificate has been issued, the PEC is not legally entitled to revisit its earlier decision to confirm or revoke the certificate it had previously issued, it added.
Any additional facts regarding a candidate which come to public attention after the candidate’s certificate has been issued would be for the electorate’s consideration and assessment before casting their votes, said the committee.

“The PEC was not aware of Mr Tan’s social media posts before Mr Tan’s certificate of eligibility was issued,” it said. “Hence, the issuing of the certificate could not have amounted to an endorsement of Mr Tan’s social media posts by the PEC.”
Earlier on Monday, Mr Tan dismissed criticisms of his Facebook posts, saying only a small minority are uncomfortable with them.
Most visitors to his page found such posts “quite light (and) quite enjoyable”, the former NTUC Income chief executive told reporters during a walkabout at West Coast Market Square.

“There will be a few people who feel uncomfortable, but that is a very small minority,” he said in response to a question about these posts.
“(The) majority actually find that to be quite okay – quite fun.”
Mr Tan said such posts are how he builds his online audience, and that he has other posts, such as those about his meals “that bring in 100,000 people, half a million people... simple posts”.
An earlier thread on online forum Reddit about Mr Tan’s more colourful posts attracted over 1,600 upvotes since it was started last Friday. That was the day the PEC issued three candidates certificates of eligibility, including Mr Tan.
Some commenters on both the TikTok video and the Reddit thread asked how the PEC decided that Mr Tan qualifies to run in the election. In the certificates of eligibility issued to Mr Tan and the other eligible candidates, the PEC said it is “satisfied that you are a man of integrity, good character and reputation”.
On Monday, the Association of Women for Action and Research (Aware) said it shared the public’s concerns that a candidate who has a history of objectifying women has been cleared to participate in the presidential election.
The gender equality group said that consistently posting about “pretty girls”, recording videos of women in public without their consent or commenting about their appearance reduces them solely to their appearances for personal entertainment, and suggests that it is acceptable to trivialise women.
“Yet here’s a more systemic worry: The granting of a Certificate of Eligibility to such an individual doesn’t only reflect on him but suggests a systemic endorsement,” it said in a Facebook post that linked a news article about the TikTok video.
This signifies that such behaviour is not just acceptable, but perhaps even agreeable enough for a potential president to have, said Aware. It urged the PEC to consider the broader implications of such endorsements in the future.
“The president should embody the values, ethics, and principles that reflect the nation we want to be,” it added.
 

sbfuncle

Alfrescian
Loyal
What's wrong with saying pretty girls? Pretty slim girls and pretty joggers?
Is it because AWARE think this means the girls are sluts?
 

LITTLEREDDOT

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset

Ng Kok Song highlights difference between ‘government-endorsed’ candidate and one who is not​

2023081349269923snapseed.jpg


Presidential hopeful Ng Kok Song (second from right) and his fiancee Sybil Lau (third from right) posing for a wefie with patrons during a visit to Seah Im Food Centre on Aug 13. ST PHOTO: CHONG JUN LIANG
isabelle%20Byline%20Template.png


Isabelle Liew

AUG 14, 2023


SINGAPORE - As a “non-government-endorsed candidate”, presidential hopeful Ng Kok Song has been turned down by some organisations he had approached to visit as part of his community engagement efforts.
Mr Ng, 75, said this in response to a question from the media during a visit to Seah Im Food Centre on Sunday.
“There’s a difference between being a government-endorsed candidate – you know who I’m referring to – and a candidate like myself, independent. Me, Mr George Goh, Mr Tan Kin Lian,” he added.
Apart from Mr Ng, who was previously chief investment officer of GIC, the other three presidential hopefuls are former senior minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam; Mr Goh, an entrepreneur; and Mr Tan, the former chief executive of NTUC Income.
Besides getting turned down by some organisations, Mr Ng said: “When you’re a government-endorsed candidate, you will see VIP treatment. When you are not... you’ll get NIP treatment. What is NIP? Not important.
“That’s the reality because business organisations, even civic organisations, they do not want to offend the Government.”
But thankfully, the playing field is levelled when he goes to hawker centres and wet markets, Mr Ng said, adding: “I’m so encouraged by the reception that I get from ordinary people.”

Mr Ng, who was in public service for 45 years and held posts in GIC and the Monetary Authority of Singapore, again stressed the difference between being in the establishment and the political leadership.
“It was not right to say every person who serves in the public service is affiliated to the ruling party,” he said, in response to comments made by Mr Tan on Saturday. Mr Tan had said that if Mr Goh and himself are both found to be eligible to run for president, one of them should step down and support the other candidate to “avoid splitting the non-establishment vote”.
Mr Tan also said he decided to contest to offer Singaporeans a chance to vote for someone who is independent of the ruling government.


Mr Ng on Sunday also visited the Huang Clan Association, where he participated in a dialogue with clan members.
file7rhw7jm1jupeh9fw9py_0.jpg


Mr Ng Kok Song (centre) at a dialogue at the Huang Clan Association on Aug 13, 2023.With him are the association’s emeritus adviser Ng Poh Wah (left) and its president Wong Kuek Phong. ST PHOTO: DESMOND WEE
Speaking to the media after the dialogue, he said safeguarding Singapore’s reserves is “not a simple matter”, and that other presidential candidates will have to prove they have a sufficient grasp of the responsibilities involved.
“We mustn’t assume that it’s an easy thing. And that is why the criteria have been set such that whoever wants to be the president must be competent. And secondly, that person must be trustworthy in terms of character,” he said.
“Because of my experience having worked 45 years in helping to build up the reserves, I understand the intricacies of the reserves. For that matter, I think Mr Tharman also understands. But it is something which I think other candidates will have to prove.”

Mr Ng was asked during the dialogue what his competitive advantage was over the other three candidates.
Responding, he cited his independence from the ruling party, his familiarity with the reserves and that he understood what it was like to be poor, having had to work to support his family when he was in university.
“So, the other candidates, Mr George Goh is a businessman, and Mr Tharman comes from a professional background. Nothing we can do about that, that’s the way we are. I feel that because of my background, I can empathise with the people of Singapore.”
Asked at Seah Im Food Centre on Sunday what he thought about the Elections Department (ELD) discouraging in-person rallies, Mr Ng said the ELD has good reasons for doing so, and that he would explore the possibility of holding an online rally to explain to the public his views and reasons for standing in the election.
He also said he hopes to reach out to young people by encouraging them to be financially literate and to pursue entrepreneurship.
“A habit of saving gives you financial security and gives you more freedom in life. For example, if you have a job where you cannot tolerate the boss, you can quit and live on your savings or accept a lower-paying job,” he said.
And when starting a business, young people should be willing to put money into it, and not rely on loans from others, he added.
Mr Ng said: “You want people to support you in your enterprise, but how much are you willing to put in yourself?”
He added: “These are things that we can help our young people to develop. It will give them more confidence and prepare them for the future so that they can exploit opportunities that lie ahead of us.”

Mr Ng was accompanied by his fiancee Sybil Lau at the food centre, where he spoke with stallholders and residents. Ms Lau sits on several boards, including SG Enable, a registered charity for persons with disabilities.
2023081358571020snapseed_1.jpg


Presidential hopeful Ng Kok Song and his fiancee Sybil Lau having beef noodles during a visit to Seah Im Food Centre on Sunday. ST PHOTO: CHONG JUN LIANG
On how his relationship with Ms Lau, 45, has changed since he launched his bid for the presidency, Mr Ng said: “I don’t think it will be possible for someone to go into such an arduous campaign without the support of their wife or their partner.
“I’m so happy Sybil understands my reasons why I’m standing for the presidency, that I want to serve the people of Singapore and therefore, she wants to support me in this campaign at some sacrifice to her privacy. But we’re prepared to make that sacrifice in order for me to serve the people of Singapore.”
 

myfoot123

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
What's wrong with saying pretty girls? Pretty slim girls and pretty joggers?
Is it because AWARE think this means the girls are sluts?
You say it once, it is isolated. You said it twice it is funny. You said it thrice it became boring. You said it 18 times in 2022 and 5 more times this year.....it certainly raised many eye brows. Having said that, if everyone disapproved TKL, then the same dissapporval must be given to Sham and Vivian in BW the bungalow incidents since LHL said CPIB find no corruption in their actions.
 

LITTLEREDDOT

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
How the voters will vote (updated):

For Tharman Shanmugaratnam
PAP supporters
The establishment i.e. civil servants who depend on the PAP for their iron rice bowl
The labour unions members. The NTUC will announce its endorsement of Tharman as President.
Businessmen and professionals who do not want their businesses and jobs to be affected by political disruptions
Most Pioneer and Merdeka generations who voted for Lee Kuan Yew their whole lives.
About half of the women who object to Tan Kin Lian objectifying pretty woman
Half of the women who are not pretty
Half of the women who are jealous of Cybil Lau
The Indian voters
The other minority races: Malays, Eurasions, and Others


For Ng Kok Song
The pro-establishment but anti-PAP
Moderates and neutrals who do not want a pro-PAP nor an anti-PAP candidate
The remaining half of the women who object to Tan Kin Lian objectifying pretty woman and
also support Sybil Lau for being able to find such a rich sugar daddy
The other half of the women who are not pretty
Half the Chinese voters

For Tan Kin Lian
All who voted against the PAP
The anti-establishment
The anti-vaxers like Iris Koh
Supporters of Tan Chuan Jin and Cheng Li Hui
Those who are not satisfied with the government's handling of the Ridout bungalow (K Shanmugam and Vivian Balakrishnan)
and S Iswaran corruption probes
The other half of the women who are jealous of Cybil Lau
The sandwiched middle-class who are impacted by the cost of living
Those who lost their jobs or university places to foreign talents
All those who want to know the exact size of Singapore's reserves
All the chee ko peks who like to look at pretty girls
Half the Chinese voters
 
Last edited:

LITTLEREDDOT

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset

Ng Kok Song, Tharman, Tan Kin Lian officially in three-way race for presidential election​


fhcollage220823.jpg


(From left) Former GIC investment chief Ng Kok Song, former senior minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam and former NTUC Income chief Tan Kin Lian had earlier submitted their nomination papers ahead of the noon deadline. ST PHOTOS: JASON QUAH, KEVIN LIM
goh_yan_han.png


Goh Yan Han
Political Correspondent

August 22, 2023

Live from Nomination Day: Follow updates from ST live blog
SINGAPORE - A three-way contest for the presidency is officially underway among former GIC investment chief Ng Kok Song, 75, former senior minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam, 66, and former NTUC Income chief Tan Kin Lian, 75.
The three presidential hopefuls all successfully filed their nomination papers on Tuesday.
Returning Officer Tan Meng Dui officially announced the trio as candidates at 12.39pm.
All three had arrived earlier at the nomination centre at the People’s Association headquarters in Jalan Besar ahead of the noon deadline.
Now that they have been officially announced as candidates, they cannot pull out of the race without forfeiting their election deposits of $40,500 each.
The three men, who are vying to become Singapore’s ninth elected president, can begin campaigning officially.
 
Top