not a single pla tank is among the world's top 10 mbt's

[glockman]

haaaaa
i used to have one of those

Mine got battery, had lights and can make sounds hokay!

 

[kaninabuchaojibye]

Mine got battery, had lights and can make sounds hokay!

mine also what
chey

 

[Papsmearer]

shiok! prc, pla, and their sympathizers will start throwing a collective tantrum.

This list is such a fucking joke, I had a good laugh. any top 10 list that includes T-72 variants like the T-90 and OPLOT need to have their heads examined. Its already proven their 125mm gun is not match for a western 120mm Rheinmetall, so how can they be the top 1 and 2?

 

[mojito]

shiok! prc, pla, and their sympathizers will start throwing a collective tantrum.

Top secret stealth tech bro. So stealthy no one knows.

 

[Papsmearer]

Cfer Bentn 3 months ago

Rankings and Patriotism always make me laugh on tank videos.. Omg Abrams is the best.. blah blah blah.. No Leopard 2.. blah blah blah, NO ITS THE T90 blah blah blah.. All MBT's are designed to serve a very strict set of parameters. It goes like this... Leopard 2 (best optics), Challenger 2 ( best armor) Merkava (Best area denial system) Abrams ( licensed the best from both Leopard and Challenger) and is now trying to integrate Merkava ADS. T90 forcing the west to upgrade, and probably damn reliable as Russian equipment usually is. Leclerc. Hey you got some damn nice cushioned seats, and your modular armor package is a novel idea. Type 90 (suspension system is excellent) k2 (mini abrams) but great for the terrain. At the end of the day its going to come down to the crew, specifically crew training. If you take logistics and support out of the equation, and base solely on a 1v1 tank battle. The CREW who out maneuvers and or gains and maintains decisive terrain will win the battle, regardless of what tank it is. I am an Abrams Tank Commander but I understand that any tank can be defeated. Learn to use what you are given, but master the fundamentals, and your success is guaranteed.

Not really. The crew training helps, but even if you have the best crew and that crew has a shitty tank, they cannot win. GW 1 and 2 showed that. Even Yom Kippur showed that. In this case, every tank that is based on a T-72 design and reliant on some derivative of the original 125mm gun is fucked in a long range shooting war. That gun is accurate maybe to 2500m and max 3000m with the latest and newest APFSDS rounds, but it doesn't help when any western tanks with a Rheinmetall 120mm can hit u at 4000m - 5000m.

 

[Papsmearer]

The best tank is the one the has the best combination of the 3 strengths of a tank, i.e. Armour, Mobility and Firepower. Some tanks have 2 but not 3 of these elements. eg. Merkava which is very heavily armoured and has good firepower, but poor mobility. I think the M1A2 SEP has the best combination of all the 3 elements. That damn thing has depleted uranium armour added to its chobham blend.

 

[steffychun]

shiok! prc, pla, and their sympathizers will start throwing a collective tantrum.

The PLA is not as open so how can journalist rate their MBTs?

 

[redbull313]

we all know now the PLA is full of shit they cant even fight the indians. dont fear the PLA because there is nothing to fear. All shit

 

[steffychun]

we all know now the PLA is full of shit they cant even fight the indians. dont fear the PLA because there is nothing to fear. All shit

So Rapeland is that go ah? Rape your family then you know.

 

[eatshitndie]

This list is such a fucking joke, I had a good laugh. any top 10 list that includes T-72 variants like the T-90 and OPLOT need to have their heads examined. Its already proven their 125mm gun is not match for a western 120mm Rheinmetall, so how can they be the top 1 and 2?

agree. plus ammo in these t-72 variants are co-located in main compartment with crew. very old school ww2 carryover design. tiong tanks are also the same. death traps.

 

[Papsmearer]

agree. plus ammo in these t-72 variants are co-located in main compartment with crew. very old school ww2 carryover design. tiong tanks are also the same. death traps.

its not a WW2 carry over design. If u look at pics of WW2 destroyed T-34s, and KV1 and KV2, etc., u will find very few of them have their turret separated from the hull by an internal explosion. Even the T-55 and T-62 is not like that. The T-72 is. For whatever reason, a single penetration from a APFSDS round ignites the propellants in the tank and the internal explosion is so bad it takes the turret off. To my knowledge, this issue has not been solved, even for newer T-72 variants like the T-80. Therefore, any chinese tank based on a T-72 should also have this issue. Plus a second rate main gun.

 

[3_M]

I find all these comparisons of Top 10 fighter jets and tanks childish. Nowadays wars are fought on C4ISR and the ability to integrate it into the various platforms.

 

[eatshitndie]

its not a WW2 carry over design. If u look at pics of WW2 destroyed T-34s, and KV1 and KV2, etc., u will find very few of them have their turret separated from the hull by an internal explosion. Even the T-55 and T-62 is not like that. The T-72 is. For whatever reason, a single penetration from a APFSDS round ignites the propellants in the tank and the internal explosion is so bad it takes the turret off. To my knowledge, this issue has not been solved, even for newer T-72 variants like the T-80. Therefore, any chinese tank based on a T-72 should also have this issue. Plus a second rate main gun.

this brings back memories of the georgian-ossetian conflict. many t-72 turrets got blown off and landed with their guns embedded in ground.

there's one that is still there, embedded in ground as a memorial. the next pic showed the same turret that was blown sky-high and crashed through the roof of the building. the building is rebuilt with the turret in the same spot.

 

[A Singaporean]

Is not the hardware but the people. Remember the Little India, Riot? All the hardware in the SPF cannot even put down a riot by few empty handed Ah Nehs.

 

[Papsmearer]

this brings back memories of the georgian-ossetian conflict. many t-72 turrets got blown off and landed with their guns embedded in ground.
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there's one that is still there, embedded in ground as a memorial. the next pic showed the same turret that was blown sky-high and crashed through the roof of the building. the building is rebuilt with the turret in the same spot.
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Hmm, middle pic is not T-72 lah

 

[Papsmearer]

Is not the hardware but the people. Remember the Little India, Riot? All the hardware in the SPF cannot even put down a riot by few empty handed Ah Nehs.

Not the case for armour. U have very well trained Sherman M4 crews in the US army during WW2, they were still hopelessly outmatched against German Tiger and Panther tanks.

 

[A Singaporean]

Not the case for armour. U have very well trained Sherman M4 crews in the US army during WW2, they were still hopelessly outmatched against German Tiger and Panther tanks.

Have you read Battle of the Bulge? Stupid.

 

[eatshitndie]

Hmm, middle pic is not T-72 lah

turret in middle pic and last pic is the same, just stripped bare of external protective packs and other add-ons that characterize the disk-like look of the t-72 turret.