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Serious NMP Yee's perfect response to Woody about difficulty getting good people

Confuseous

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Responding to ESM Goh’s remarks on Facebook, Mr Yee said that Mr Goh’s comment made him recall his own speech in Parliament during the debate on ministerial salaries in 2012. Mr Yee asked:
“Are we fishing for talent in a limited small pond? Are we defining people by their earnings in previous jobs and those earning half a million or less are automatically ‘mediocre’? Are we treating Singapore as a large company to be run commercially?”
Back in 2012, Mr Yee – who was a Non-Constituency Member of Parliament – had expressed concern over the way a minister’s pay is pegged to the top 1,000 Singaporean earners.
Noting that this approach is taken under the assumption that political talent must be synonymous with career success, Mr Yee said that it is “elitist” to assume that “only those who are top in their professional careers can make it to hold political office.” Mr Yee said:
“Running a company well is different from being able to run a country. Perhaps the government has treated running this country too much like running a business that we have often been referred to as Singapore Inc. So we also tie political work to that of running a very big company. I believe this is a flawed model.“In constantly drumming this message since 1994, we have created an expectation amongst potential political office holders that political office is a career progression for them, and that reaching a minister’s position is like reaching the pinnacle of one’s career.“It also creates an expectation amongst identified potential office holders that they need a safe route to parachute into parliament or they would not risk their career. This has made Singapore politics uniquely Singapore. It is a model of politics that despite years of attempts to justify and fine-tune, many have yet to accept. I for one, do not accept this model of politics.“I feel we have over commercialised the nature of running this country. We need to constantly remind ourselves that we have been elected by the people into this House. It is totally different from being headhunted to become a hired top management of a company. We should never forget it is a noble calling to serve the public.”
Mr Yee asked: “I like to ask, what aspires a person to take the difficult route of politics?…I wonder what would aspire our next generation to become future ministers and the future Prime Minister. I certainly hope it will not be for career progression.”
He added that he disagrees with the notion that Singapore does not have enough talent for two political teams and reiterated his earlier call that a sense of public service and political awareness must be instilled in youths “to create aspiring future politicians who will strongly believe in the importance of leading the nation, and that they wish to play a part in it.”
Mr Yee also opined that the lack of interest in political careers could be perpetuated by the constant search for political talent “from amongst a narrow pool of top career performers”. He added: “I believe we have been talent ponding for too long, searching from a small pond for people that fit as career elites. We should instead talent flood with people from all walks of life.”
Noting that the salary review committee considers the pay cut private-sector earners might have to take if they join politics as a sacrifice, Mr Yee said:
“Being a politician should be an aspiration and an honour. It is the nature of politics all over the world that there will be public scrutiny; there will be challenges balancing family and work; and there will be set-backs such as electoral loss. The reluctant will deem these as sacrifice. Those who aspire to lead will welcome these as challenges to be overcome.”
Read Mr Yee’s speech in full HERE.
 

laksaboy

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I would look at it from the reverse perspective: what's truly difficult is to get rid of the bad people.

Goh Chok Tong? Some seatwarmer old fossil from back in the day, inexplicably still a MP today.

Clean water can't enter unless the dirty toilet is flushed. If you want good people, you'll have to get rid of the bad ones.
 

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GCT is very afraid that PAP will be losing lots of votes in this coming GE. So he tries to convince Sinkies that PAP is indispensable.
 

Confuseous

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They are just continuing to create the illusion that they are still in ownself check ownself mode.
And nothing worse than a Wooden Cock talking cock to a mirror.
 

halsey02

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"Duty, Honor, Country" — those three hallowed words reverently dictate what you ought to be, what you can be, what you will be. They are your rallying point to build courage when courage seems to fail, to regain faith when there seems to be little cause for faith, to create hope when hope becomes forlorn.
Unhappily" abridged General Douglas speech at West Point

Which PAP members joined to become ministers etc.. with the view of " Duty, Honor, Country"? In the past, maybe...it now, " Money, Money & More Money". Does that macik President took office for " Duty, Honor, Country"....??
 

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KNN when want to beat a minister a ceo a doc etc to a puppy it is useless to do it on social media as the person can just ignore or treat like he didn't read it thus no response is required KNN BUT if it is done in front of many people (which my uncle did in various occasions KNN) you can see the party becomes a puppy when speechless with the people around also usually quiet and stunned KNN
 

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Even within their pap narrowly defined elite pool, not all will want to joint PAP simply due to ideological differences.

In short pap is only sourcing from a even smaller pool of talents. An elite pool where they can only target people who are in agreeable with their policies eventhough they don't want to admit.
 
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sweetiepie

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KNN when want to beat a minister a ceo a doc etc to a puppy it is useless to do it on social media as the person can just ignore or treat like he didn't read it thus no response is required KNN BUT if it is done in front of many people (which my uncle did in various occasions KNN) you can see the party becomes a puppy when speechless with the people around also usually quiet and stunned KNN
KNN just to add it is also useless to do it face to face only with that party KNN e.g if you want to beat a ceo to puppy the best is to do it in front of all the mgt people and note that the tone of your attack must be as short as possible and cool KNN if is done in non meeting environment it is best to do it in front of at least 1 cohort from your side so that the party will feel very ashame and worry that the witness may spill the bean later to more people KNN
 
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