NGNBB: Another scam

[cheekenpie]

These service providers will sell you 100Mbps... but only commit to giving you 25Mbps. So whats so new generation about it.

Sounds like the same scam.

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Broadband price war for Singapore?
Wed, Sep 01, 2010
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By Kenny Chee and Rachel Chan

CONSUMERS can enjoy faster, cheaper and more stable broadband connections with the commercial launch of the Next Generation National Broadband Network by Nucleus Connect yesterday.

Nucleus Connect is a subsidiary of StarHub, but is operationally separate from the telco.

It will be selling bandwidth to service providers.

For a start, prices for consumer 100Mbps broadband plans offered by home-grown firm SuperInternet, which is new to the consumer market, go for $49.80 per month, nearly 43 per cent cheaper than the rate for the most expensive residential 100Mbps plans now.

M1 also unveiled 100Mbps plans at $59 and $39 for home users and students, respectively.

Thanks to the high-speed fibre-optic network, initiated by the Government, new players will find it easier to provide broadband services. The network will cover 95 per cent of homes and offices by 2012.

Previously, service providers had to buy bandwidth from private broadband networks built by SingTel and StarHub.

Mr Benjamin Tan, managing director of SuperInternet, said that previously it was "not commercially viable" to buy bandwidth from SingTel if SuperInternet had fewer than 5,000 customers.

But with the new network, bandwidth is sold at a flat and transparent fee, which will encourage new providers to enter the market.

SingTel and StarHub together now own about 86 per cent of broadband subscribers, says research firm Frost & Sullivan.

Mr Adeel Najam, senior industry analyst with Frost & Sullivan, estimated that broadband prices are already falling annually by 3 to 4 per cent. With the new competition, prices could fall by 7 to 10 per cent.

SingTel, which unveiled yesterday a new 150Mbps plan for $85.90 a month and assorted services tapping on the new network, said it did not know if a price war could be triggered.

Commenting on other cheaper plans in the market, Mr Allen Lew, SingTel's chief executive for Singapore, said: "When you say...cheaper, you have to figure out what they're providing, what speeds, and exactly how much the plans would cost."

With this network, broadband speeds here could catch up with those of Asian markets, such as South Korea, Hong Kong and Taiwan, and might surpass them, said Mr Najam.

Media reports last year suggested that broadband speeds here lagged behind those of the abovementioned markets because Singapore did not have a nation-wide broadband network.

When asked about broadband speeds here, a spokesman for the Infocomm Development Authority of Singapore said that according to its website, "current broadband plans here have generally delivered reasonable speeds to their customers within the service plans of their choice".

Mr David Storrie, chief executive of Nucleus Connect, said that with the advent of the new network, broadband speeds could be 12 times faster than what is offered now.

He also said that the broadband experience and speeds would be more "stable and consistent".

He added that Nucleus Connect would commit a minimum data-transmission rate of 25Mbps with the new network.

M1 will have the same committed rate, while SingTel consumers will enjoy a speed of at least 40Mbps with the network, the telcos' spokesmen said.

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[Char_Azn]

It's actually pretty standard. If U subscribe to e.g. a 1Mb line anywhere in the world, U dun normally reach the full 1Mb speed. It depends on a lot of factors. What they can guarantee is that U will be able to reach a maximum of 1MB to the ISP's backbone. Actual speed between your games/website/etc depends on a lot of other factors which no ISP in the world can guarantee

Most of the time you probably wont even reach half that. So the minimum speed guarantee is there to tell u that it wont drop below a certain speed. U can check with some Starhub users, I'm sure many have "60Mb shared bandwidth" but the stupid thing seem to be running at 56K

 

[no_faith]

sry to ask, any1 heard of OpenNet? installing optic fibre in home?

 

[Glaringly]

Adding an extra middlemen and can still sell you cheaper? Sounds very much like all the monopolies that are thriving in our market with fake competitions and telling us we are much better off.

The fact is that the demand of bandwidth has now fallen to a whimper. In those days of 9.6k and 14.4k, we are all fanatically trying to look out for the next speed increase. Next comes broadband and the rest is history.

Couple of years ago, I got a 256k broadband and was automatically being push to higher speed periodically at less and less of the original monthly subscription cost to my present speed at 3Mbps. Will be happy to wait for the next auto upgrade with yet another discount of my present rate.

So, don't be fool, why do you need 100 Mbps when the international network could not commit to it. I bet my crappy online video stream is as good as yours!

 

[halsey02]

sry to ask, any1 heard of OpenNet? installing optic fibre in home?

yes!, my home is installed with OpenNet optic fibre terminal, & the entire HDB estate is also...

the office building I work in, they have run the cable in & soon be installing the terminals...

 

[gbomega]

The price has to be reasonable below the range of $30

 

[no_faith]

yes!, my home is installed with OpenNet optic fibre terminal, & the entire HDB estate is also...

the office building I work in, they have run the cable in & soon be installing the terminals...

ic. my understanding is dey install terminal, the isp provide the broadband service using the terminal.

halsey02, wich isp r u using?

 

[halsey02]

ic. my understanding is dey install terminal, the isp provide the broadband service using the terminal.

halsey02, wich isp r u using?

I have been using Cyberway, as a tester many many years back, before starhub came into being...and is still on Starhub..

The Open Net terminal is not operational islandwide yet!, do not know what the heck is the terminal fo also?

What I understand is, in future we will be connecting the TV to that terminal?, using which type of connector. If that is so, older Tv will need a HDMI connector one end & the Terminal Box connector on the other ??

Now the house have three terminal boxes in the corner:

1. Old HDB CATV
2. Starhub Cable Terminal Box
3. Open Net Terminal Box

:p

 

[balajii]

i don't understand how the telcos can advert and sell something which they can never achieve. for my case, they sell as 12mps, 'free' upgrade to 20mps but actual speed varies from 5, 9 to max 19 (1 single time only). its outright cheating the consumers. how can you sell something which you don't have?

like that sq can advert airline tickets to japan for $x but ask you to drop off at thailand or not?

or i sell wantan soup $5 for 10 wanton but sometimes only give you 7 or 8? like this can?