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My Eventful Lunch Today.

Claire

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I had wanted to write earlier but was caught in the other thread replies.

Anyway, I had lunch at a kopishop near office today and witnessed a “near fight” just in front of me.

As my “kakis” are still away on leave, I ate alone – sharing a table with a smartly dressed elderly indian man who was drinking a big can of ABC Stout.

Before I sat down, I asked for “permission” and he smiled at me, gesturing please do (though I was a little sceptical about sitting there cos I am wary of people who drink in bright sunny lunch hours, but I guess I had no choice as I was a single diner today).

I thanked him and sat down and happily munching my prawn noodles, took out my mobile and engrossed myself reading the latest news on CNN, BBC, Reuters, Associated Press apps and also the mobile version of this Forum.

The elderly indian chap must have left to order another can of stout. Then, the dish clearing man (also an Indian but a much younger chap) came and cleared the supposedly leftover can of ABC stout and next thing I heard –

Indian Man: Hello, what you doing? (snatching back the can from the hands of the cleaner)

Cleaner: (looks agitated) finished already.

Indian Man: What finished? You hold it you know still have inside right! (and he went on to demonstrate that there was indeed some stout left in there)

Cleaner: FXXk You lah. I pay you lah.

Indian Man: (became more agitated on hearing the 4 letter word ~ and replied in some tamil language I cannot comprehend).

Cleaner: (made a crude sign ~ the sort that men likes to do ~ bringing an open palm towards a fisted palm creating a “pop” sound). You Singaporean always bully Malaysian, is it?

Indian Man: You bloody Malaysian go back lah. Work also cannot work properly.

Cleaner: (more crude signs using his hands making more "popping" sounds ~ oh mine!!!)
…….

All hell broke loose for the next 10 mins or so and I was like ~ are they going to take my bowl of prawn mee and splashed at each other. Should I just walk away and leave them to fight it out, abandoning my bowl of noodles? There goes my peaceful lunch, I wondered.

Somehow, I stood up and without thinking too much – I told both of them to cool down. A few guys also came forward and tried to diffuse the situation.

My Questions:

1. Was the elderly indian man under the mistaken impression that the cleaner was attempting to “steal” his unfinished stout? I really have no idea. How much does a stout cost in a kopishop???

2. Was it societal prejudice against cleaners?

3. Why are men so agitated about minor issues such as these?

4. What society are we heading into with all these country prejudices? Where is the gracious and polite society that was promised to us?

5. Who is responsible for all these mess in our society – race, religion, ethnicity, gender, income, country of origin and what have you all fused and ready to explode anytime, even over a minor can of stout !?!

I somewhat find that this country is heading for a big mess in time to come after the episode this afternoon.


[Message to Racists – Don’t be a clown and start your nonsensical racism comments and those guess the race gibberish! If you have nothing better to say, just keep your keyboard away from your mucky hands]
 
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syed putra

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but i would get pissed too if someone took my drinks or food away when i haven't finished. The waiter could have backed off and apologised.
having booze during lunch (just one) is quite good. it sort of relaxes your mind a bit.afternoon booze on a quiet weekend is even better with food and good companion.
 

harimau

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Without Ah Neh, SGP will not be in checked. PAP can do whatever they like.

Kudos to Ah Nehs! I missed yummy Mutton Bryiani!

Ah Nehs are the greatest! Especially those who believed in Jesus!

JoshuaBenjaminJeyaretnam.jpg
 

LordKrishna

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ChineseDog

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Without Ah Neh, SGP will not be in checked. PAP can do whatever they like.

Kudos to Ah Nehs! I missed yummy Mutton Bryiani!

Ah Nehs are the greatest! Especially those who believed in Jesus!

JoshuaBenjaminJeyaretnam.jpg

I love indians too! hi do you want to join my chinesedog club? We are looking for fresh blood.
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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you should have told those shit skins dei mayiru. Nee appa oru panni, nee amma oru thevadiya.

Unga ammaleh pudichi olkeh.

karrupanni punda mavan.
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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Just believe thats all you need and all your dreams will come true, don't fight it.

[video=youtube;zH3KJsamJ-g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH3KJsamJ-g[/video]

How come you promote the worship of your brother's son shiva? You see the trident sign on his head.
 

Ash007

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My Questions:

1. Was the elderly indian man under the mistaken impression that the cleaner was attempting to “steal” his unfinished stout? I really have no idea. How much does a stout cost in a kopishop???

2. Was it societal prejudice against cleaners?

3. Why are men so agitated about minor issues such as these?

4. What society are we heading into with all these country prejudices? Where is the gracious and polite society that was promised to us?

5. Who is responsible for all these mess in our society – race, religion, ethnicity, gender, income, country of origin and what have you all fused and ready to explode anytime, even over a minor can of stout !?!

I somewhat find that this country is heading for a big mess in time to come after the episode this afternoon.

1) He left, its perfectly normal for anyone to assume whatever is left over is left to be "cleaned". I highly doubt cost that much to begin with. This incident is dumb. Both are bad tempered to begin with. Guy could have politely said "excuse me, I still have some left in it", cleaner could have gone "I'm sorry, I thought you have left."

2) Cleaners job in Asian countries, especially in Singapore are prejudiced against. Remember all the scare stories we hear when we are young. "If you don't study hard you will end up as a cleaner." etc etc. Also shows the lack of human kindness. In Aussieland, garbos, garbage collectors are paid close to 100K a year. And they just sits in trucks with automatic arms collecting bins. It used to be during the xmas break, people would even leave cans of beers as a thank you. I don't see that happening in Singapore.

3) Depends on the "men"/"women". In general, I think its a cultural thing. Men by nature are more aggressive.

4) Society grace/politeness comes from the heart/soul of the nation. Not some government directives/campaign. I think one of the biggest mistake in Singapore is the illusion that we are a gracious society.

5) enough said from my above points. I'm sure there are really kind hearted people like you in Singapore still.
 

Claire

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1) He left, its perfectly normal for anyone to assume whatever is left over is left to be "cleaned". I highly doubt cost that much to begin with. This incident is dumb. Both are bad tempered to begin with. Guy could have politely said "excuse me, I still have some left in it", cleaner could have gone "I'm sorry, I thought you have left."

2) Cleaners job in Asian countries, especially in Singapore are prejudiced against. Remember all the scare stories we hear when we are young. "If you don't study hard you will end up as a cleaner." etc etc. Also shows the lack of human kindness. In Aussieland, garbos, garbage collectors are paid close to 100K a year. And they just sits in trucks with automatic arms collecting bins. It used to be during the xmas break, people would even leave cans of beers as a thank you. I don't see that happening in Singapore.

3) Depends on the "men"/"women". In general, I think its a cultural thing. Men by nature are more aggressive.

4) Society grace/politeness comes from the heart/soul of the nation. Not some government directives/campaign. I think one of the biggest mistake in Singapore is the illusion that we are a gracious society.

5) enough said from my above points. I'm sure there are really kind hearted people like you in Singapore still.

Good morning Ash.

I fully agree with what you said.

Perhaps both are stressed up by our current society. Low wages, lack of respect for people doing such jobs, a stressful elderly man worrying whether he has enough money to go through his years, etc etc could have all contributed to this outburst.

Humans react to externally caused pressures.
 

Ash007

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Good morning Ash.

I fully agree with what you said.

Perhaps both are stressed up by our current society. Low wages, lack of respect for people doing such jobs, a stressful elderly man worrying whether he has enough money to go through his years, etc etc could have all contributed to this outburst.

Humans react to externally caused pressures.

Your sex threads is more interesting. No more interesting tryst? Singapore is the society it is because of the people that got voted in. We are what we are.
 

Charlie99

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Your sex threads is more interesting. No more interesting tryst? Singapore is the society it is because of the people that got voted in. We are what we are.

I agree that her other "sex thread" is more interesting.
It looks like she is making Sammyboy more interesting with her several discussion threads,
but I miss [scroobal] posts.
 

Claire

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Your sex threads is more interesting. No more interesting tryst? Singapore is the society it is because of the people that got voted in. We are what we are.


I agree that her other "sex thread" is more interesting.
It looks like she is making Sammyboy more interesting with her several discussion threads,
but I miss [scroobal] posts.

Ash and Charlie, please do not mistaken my posts. As I said before and I say again, I am not a porn writer. The only reason I write here and not elsewhere (whether HWZ, Blogs, Facebook) is because of the comfort of anonymity that this Forum offers. But that doesn't mean that I spew soft porn, gibberish, vulgarities, racism or exhibit wantonness in my online behaviour that I see in most mucky characters here. I am responsible for myself and my principles in a healthy discourse of issues, whether it is sex-related, politics-related or society-related.

As for scroobal, I only have a faint idea of who he is. I recall seeing something in mainstream media on his altercation with the authorities from something he posted here. I don't see him here either and I do not have the time to dig into historical threads in this forum.
 
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