Muslims in Singapore need to accommodate too: Zulkifli

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Yahoo Newsroom - Former Nominated MP Zulkifli Baharudin shares his views on race and religion in Singapore. (Photo courtesy of IPS)

Muslims in Singapore need to make greater efforts to compromise and integrate themselves better when it comes to practicing their religious beliefs. They should not expect others to accommodate them all the time.

Former Nominated Member of Parliament Zulkifli Baharudin, who serves as Singapore's non-resident ambassador to Algeria and Uzbekistan, voiced this view in response to a question about discrimination against Muslims at the workplace from a participant at a forum on Wednesday morning.

He was one of four panellists invited there to speak on the findings of a recently-concluded IPS-OnePeople.sg study on race and religion in Singapore.

[Read our stories on the study's findings here and here.]

The participant who spoke up raised concerns about Muslim polytechnic students having to pray in dark stairwells and air-conditioner ledges during school, and questioned the prevailing hospital policy that does not allow the donning of tudungs for medical staff, in the interest of infection control.

"I personally don't see anything wrong if you're more religious and want to bring your religion to school or work," he said. "But on one condition: that Muslims — I'm talking about Muslims who have decided to leave their homes in Muslim-dominated countries to Europe (for instance) — must make more effort to integrate into the societies that they choose to go to.

"You cannot go to Europe and say, 'Look, you have to take me the way I am as I was back home'; you are in a way a guest in that country. And while you want them to receive you and respect your religion, which I clearly think they should, you must also make the effort to equally integrate.

"They (non-Muslims) are grappling with the issue of religiosity. So if we can accommodate without compromising our religious beliefs, I think we should. If we can't, then there are choices that we have to make."

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The panel invited to speak on the topic of race and religion in Singapore included (from right) former NMP Viswa …

Turning to the question of allowing tudungs to be worn in hospitals, Zulkifli said a day will probably come in the future where that "will happen", although the process leading to it has to be one that involves negotiation and compromise.

"There are very deep perceptions that we have to remove," he said. "It's not something you can legislate and say 'This matter is over'. It doesn't work that way."

Zulkifli elaborated further on his view later on, explaining that the strong religiosity of Muslims in Singapore has persisted despite years of progress, education and Westernisation, making most Singaporeans of other religions more secular and liberal in their attitudes.

"I think that's a fact of life. As a Muslim I see that; I accept that," he said. "But I'm persuading my fellow Muslims to also say that you've got to consider the other side, and how you compromise and negotiate towards what you want to achieve.

"It's not enough to say 'No, this is what I am, this is what I want and this is what it should be'… Even in Malaysia, they are majority Malays, (but) they can't do as they wish because any civilised society also has to take note of the minorities in the world," he added.

He shared an instance where the chairman of a board he sat on specially requested for his hotel room to have a prayer mat and a Quran during a company retreat, and he asked the chairman, who is Christian, why he did not call off a Sunday morning board meeting so he and the other members who were Christian could go to church.

"If we become so sieged by having to accommodate (the practices of Muslims), I don't see it as something I am happy about… even the minorities have to accommodate in this instance, otherwise we will have a lot more problems going forward," he said.

We should ask 'that stupid question': Viswa

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Former NMP Viswa Sadasivan shares his take on the racial and religious debate. (Photo courtesy of IPS)

To former Nominated Member of Parliament Viswa Sadasivan, another member of the four-man panel, the most important thing to do in the racial and religious dialogue is to speak up front to one another, and to clarify misconceptions about one another candidly.

"I feel that by not talking about this issue enough, you are actually not helping it to be demystified, and therefore a lot of conspiracy theories and preconceived ideas which are wrong are allowed to ferment," he said.

Calling for more occasions for open discussion of issues regarding race and religion, Viswa said we need to have the confidence to face one another squarely and expose our vulnerabilities in our perceptions of one another.

"You get a chance to correct your perceptions only when you are willing to expose your vulnerability and ask that stupid question, the inconvenient question, the question that's not 'kosher'," he said. "There needs to be a lot more opportunities in the personal dimension for people to just make friends, talk straight and get to know each other."

"And let's not keep being so cautious with each other," he added. "I think that's the real test of racial harmony."
 
I want to marry a minah but i dont want to embrace islam. Can the muslim community accept this notion?
 
I want to marry a minah but i dont want to embrace islam. Can the muslim community accept this notion?

Yes, can i get the Minah to convert to Christianity ?
 
About fucking time about damn fucking time you know how many of us are pissed off by m&d slimes who are mostly Malays and by extension expect non Malays especially Chinese to bend over backwards for them. With the exception of Chinese dogs who expect other Chinese to be dogs just like them at least this malay here knows how to be reasonable. I wonder how butt hurt m&d whoami thinks about this.
 
Current atau tomorrow ?:confused::o

The reason why sg muslim marriages are breaking down in huge numbers is becoz the male m&ds are crap at financial planning & are downright immatured!!! The few good ones that are better than the rest are probably better educated. At least they did their homework when ordered by the teachers instead of playing truant & stealing a smoke in the toilet.
If the male m&ds cant managed their marriage or their minahs, then the female muslim should look elseware without having religion as a break stopper. I guarantee you the minahs would love having a stable marriage/relationship without having to hunt for extra money to buy rice.
 
About fucking time about damn fucking time you know how many of us are pissed off by m&d slimes who are mostly Malays and by extension expect non Malays especially Chinese to bend over backwards for them. With the exception of Chinese dogs who expect other Chinese to be dogs just like them at least this malay here knows how to be reasonable. I wonder how butt hurt m&d whoami thinks about this.

do you accommodate your buddhist friends who don't eat beef?
do you accommodate your catholic friends who don't eat meat on fridays?
do you accommodate your hindu vegetarian friends?
do you accommodate your eco warrior friends who don't eat shark's fin?

and when you do choose to accommodate them, you do it because you appreciate their friendship/companionship more than the minor inconvenience of food choices.
 
Yes. I have come across a westerner working and living in Malaysia and married to a muslim woman, rare, but it exist.

With due respect to Islam (and all other religions), if I choose to marry a moslem woman, I am marrying her and not her religion. I will not ask her to abandon Islam, that is her choice, but whether I still drink beer and eat pork, that is my choice.

Cheers!


I want to marry a minah but i dont want to embrace islam. Can the muslim community accept this notion?
 
do you accommodate your buddhist friends who don't eat beef?
do you accommodate your catholic friends who don't eat meat on fridays?
do you accommodate your hindu vegetarian friends?
do you accommodate your eco warrior friends who don't eat shark's fin?

and when you do choose to accommodate them, you do it because you appreciate their friendship/companionship more than the minor inconvenience of food choices.

WTF? Of course i do and not only that both sides try to help each other out. Take the buddhist ones. They cannot eat beef and some cannot eat meat ok we go to a vegeterian place buddhist friend feels embarrassed for me and hopes to make it up. It's only the mudslimes combined with malay that somehow don't feel anything and expect everyone to always bend over backwards for him. Some m&ds have that mentality well drilled into their head.:rolleyes:
 
Chinese wedding if invite malay friends will automatically have separate halal food for them.

Malay wedding if invite chinese friend don't even bother to ask about their food restriction.

That is malay mentality.
 
I am ok with it, eat the same Chinese cooking is sometime boring.


Chinese wedding if invite malay friends will automatically have separate halal food for them.

Malay wedding if invite chinese friend don't even bother to ask about their food restriction.

That is malay mentality.
 
fuck, time to have one common God, 财神王 to solve all problems.
 
if I choose to marry a moslem woman, I am marrying her and not her religion. I will not ask her to abandon Islam, that is her choice, but whether I still drink beer and eat pork, that is my choice.

But isn't that exactly the problem? In Islam, you will be marrying into her religion and will not be accepted by her family, friends, community etc unless you:

1) Get circumcised
2) Stop eating pork and drinking alcohol
3) Grow a beard
4) Perform the five pillars of Islam

I totally agree with your notion of marrying the 'person' and not the 'religion' but it very seldom works this way with the Islamic faith.
 
I am ok with it, eat the same Chinese cooking is sometime boring.

But the mats are also ok with the same old same old malay dishes. How I wish they are open enough to try wanton mee or bak kut teh. Now, wont that be a sight.
 
I am ok with it, eat the same Chinese cooking is sometime boring.

Malay food may have beef which some chinese do not consume. But what the heck with it right because they will expect the chinese at most don't eat it.

Can chinese do it vice versa for chinese wedding? Cook everything using the same utensils but at most don't serve the malays pork? Don't think so. Accomodation to malays is a one way street.

By the way, how come the malay delivery man always face black black at the times I disallow him to go for friday prayers when we are really too busy? He never appreciate those fridays which I allow him to go. Since when it has become a 'must' that they have to go and waste time at the prayers on fridays.
 
Malay food may have beef which some chinese do not consume. But what the heck with it right because they will expect the chinese at most don't eat it.

Can chinese do it vice versa for chinese wedding? Cook everything using the same utensils but at most don't serve the malays pork? Don't think so. Accomodation to malays is a one way street.

By the way, how come the malay delivery man always face black black at the times I disallow him to go for friday prayers when we are really too busy? He never appreciate those fridays which I allow him to go. Since when it has become a 'must' that they have to go and waste time at the prayers on fridays.

Friday prayer is also their "SNAKE DAY". You disallow him to eat snake, of course he is unhappy.
 
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