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MP criticised WP strategy of silence and an opposition fence seater

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Another ruling-party MP has criticised the Workers' Party (WP) for not taking a clear stand on "tough issues".


Mr Hri Kumar Nair (Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC) from the People's Action Party wrote on Facebook on Saturday that the WP did not take a position on the issue of uniformed public officers wearing the hijab.


He said it had done the same thing over whether a law which criminalises gay sex should be repealed. "On almost every contentious issue, where taking a position risks loss of support, the WP has either sat on the fence or heavily qualified its position, while giving the impression that it has seriously considered the matter."


This follows Senior Minister of State for Law and Education Indranee Rajah's recent Facebook post that "WP straddles both sides of the fence and merely calls for public dialogue" on the hijab issue.


But political observers said parties had a right to choose their political strategies.


Dr Gillian Koh from the Institute of Policy Studies said: "WP has clarified its position on the hijab issue, which is to engage the public on whether anything should change from status quo."


Singapore Management University associate professor Eugene Tan said WP's move in staying neutral on certain issues is "shrewd and strategic", pointing out that it took a stand on others, like the Population White Paper. "Once WP takes a position, the whole debate shifts from whether the Government can justify its policies to whether WP can provide a better proposal."
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Hri Kumar said: "Why not make its position clear? Because the WP knows that either position it takes would put it at odds with one group of Singapore or another. So the safest thing to do is to sound like you are saying something without actually saying anything."

He also cited WP Sylvia Lim's failure to take a position on the Bill to renew the Criminal Law( Temporary Provisions) Act and only supported its renewal "with a heavy heart" after Home Affairs Minister Iswaran pressed her.
 
It's a case of damn if you do and damn if you do not. Damn if you are brave and damn if you are not.
 
The WP is too smart to fall for the bait. It is the prerogative and the privilege of the Opposition to milk whatever political capital comes its way. The PAP has done that for years under David marshall, Lim Yew Hock, Tengku, and the British.

Indians who live in glasshouses shall not throw stones. So I say, self-righteous Kumar bastard, shut the fuck up.
 
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The PAP has nothing better to do than to pick a fight. Many people including PAP supporters still remember that they had often accused the opposition of speaking up too much. JBJ and Lee SC of WP, CSJ of SDP.

People were bought in and started to yearn for constructive, non-confrontational opposition. Of course, people still do, but they are also beginning to realize that the PAP is simply playing both sides of the fence - too quiet they say you no stand, too noisy they say you confrontational. Soon, out goes the trust in the PAP's words.
 
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I don't see what the problem with WP's stance. A neutral position is in itself a position in it own right. A better way for PAP to put it is to accuse WP of not taking 'side' instead of using the word 'position'.

On another note PAP is simply using WP as a way out from their defensive position on the Hijab issue. The whole debate is no longer about whether should Hijab be allowed but instead on WP.
 
Before Hri start throwing more stones, he should, at least state his own position on the matter. Or does he have to listen to his master's voice before opening his mouth?
This article from The Independent how hypocrisy course through the veins of all these people who are dressed in white but who speak with forked tongues.

- http://theindependent.sg/an-odd-attack-by-mp-hri-kumar/
 
[h=1][/h] [h=2]MP takes dig at WP strategy of silence[/h]






20130316.175025_st_hri_kumar_nair.jpg



Lim Yi HanMyPaper





Another ruling-party MP has criticised the Workers' Party (WP) for not taking a clear stand on "tough issues".


Mr Hri Kumar Nair (Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC) from the People's Action Party wrote on Facebook on Saturday that the WP did not take a position on the issue of uniformed public officers wearing the hijab.


He said it had done the same thing over whether a law which criminalises gay sex should be repealed. "On almost every contentious issue, where taking a position risks loss of support, the WP has either sat on the fence or heavily qualified its position, while giving the impression that it has seriously considered the matter."


This follows Senior Minister of State for Law and Education Indranee Rajah's recent Facebook post that "WP straddles both sides of the fence and merely calls for public dialogue" on the hijab issue.


But political observers said parties had a right to choose their political strategies.


Dr Gillian Koh from the Institute of Policy Studies said: "WP has clarified its position on the hijab issue, which is to engage the public on whether anything should change from status quo."


Singapore Management University associate professor Eugene Tan said WP's move in staying neutral on certain issues is "shrewd and strategic", pointing out that it took a stand on others, like the Population White Paper. "Once WP takes a position, the whole debate shifts from whether the Government can justify its policies to whether WP can provide a better proposal."
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Ask the PAP to tell us what they stand for? Motherhood, motherhood, motherhood.
I have criticisms of the WP but not for this. In any case, I observe the WP prefers to build strength on the ground rather than engage in rhetoric. Hri Kumar does not know what they stand for but most people do. What did Hri Kumar give up to enter politics? What did SL go through to do the same?
 
You should actually go to his fb thread where he basically abandoned his post the first moment substantive dissenting voices emerged, leaving the defence of his inanities to brown noses such as Calvin Cheng. And the defence was so badly carried out that I really fear for Singapore if the PAP retains its 2/3 majority come 2016.
 
It's this chao ah neh again, trying to score points before 2016. :rolleyes:
 
Are the PAP so bankrupt of ideas that they are now begging everyday for the WP to help them out?
 
The PAPzis are deliberately lining up their Indian MPs against WP - think Vivian, Indranee, Vikram and Hri Kumar. They are hoping that when WP responds a mite too rigorously, they would come across as attacking the Indian community.

The PAPzis have since 2011 been trying to paint WP out to be anti Indian - remember the lame attempt by Lionel de Souza to claim that WP's thank you parade did not include Indians?

On the other hand, the PAPzis have bent over backwards with their tokenism, including the rehabilitation of Devan Nair.

It's this chao ah neh again, trying to score points before 2016. :rolleyes:
 
In any democracy, the representation of the people must be the basic source of authority for a body that makes the laws under which society operates. The electorate will therefore expect that their respective Member of Parliament represent their interests.

http://www.parliamentarystrengthening.org/commonwealthmodule/pdf/Commonwealth Unit 8.pdf

Would this HK Nair have won in a single seat constituency-meaning is he even a legitimate representative of the electorates in BTP GRC? (not applicable to Opposition who are against the idea of GRC's)
Has he found out the views of his electorates before articulating them.

If he is not speaking as an MP, his he speaking as the Secretary Gen or Chairman of the PAP?
 
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You should actually go to his fb thread where he basically abandoned his post the first moment substantive dissenting voices emerged, leaving the defence of his inanities to brown noses such as Calvin Cheng.

No stand?

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The PAP did not show their stand on the following issues:

1) ISA detainees call for justice and reopening case
2) Collapse of ceiling of Jurong East Mall
3) Fandi Ahmad's criticisms of Singapore

So again, when was it that PAP had a stand on everything?
 
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I wonder what his daughter will say this time after reading the online comments attacking her lapdog daddy.....
 
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