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US must leave the area it controls in Southern Syria — Lavrov
Published time: 19 Feb, 2018 07:32 Edited time: 19 Feb, 2018 09:28
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US troops must immediately shut down their zone of control in Southern Syria in the area of Al-Tanf, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said, speaking at Valdai Club conference on Middle East in Moscow.
The area on Syria’s border with Jordan, which Washington designated as a “de-confliction zone” under its protection, hosts the Rukban refugee camp, Lavrov said on Monday. Russia believes the camp to be a recruiting ground for militant groups and blames the US for restricting humanitarian access to it.

“This zone must be shut down immediately. And deliveries of humanitarian aid must be allowed into the camp,” the minister said.

Lavrov added that efforts aimed at reducing violence in south-western Syria – an area that Russia designated as a “de-escalation zone,” which is located near Israel’s border some 250km from the US-controlled zone – now must focus on pushing all non-Syrian troops out of that region.

“We negotiated the creation of this zone with Jordan and the US and it’s not a secret that our Israeli colleagues were informed about what we discussed,” he said. Israel accuses Iran of using proxy forces to seize control of parts of southern Syria, and has threatened to use military force to reverse the situation.

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以色列怒了,美俄接近军事冲突,叙利亚局势升级一触即发
2018-02-19 19:12 以色列 /叙利亚 /中东
以色列战机被击落,侦察机被锁定,非常恼火。俄罗斯雇佣兵被炸死,并且凶手是美军,俄罗斯很生气。叙利亚好好的一个国家被打得支离破碎,可谓很恼火。美国本想在叙利亚一家独大,没想到这个局面被打破,想要获取大利益的企图破灭,也是非常希望。种种迹象都表明,叙利亚局势出现了新变化,并且出现不好的迹象。

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中东大规模的代理人战争正在酝酿,以色列已耐不住性子,美国也已准备好与俄罗斯撕破脸,这样的局势将会怎样演绎,真的是值得关注。美国说了近十年软实力,结果玩砸了。中国顺便一点拨,就是经典案例。不过一定要注意所谓的软实力其实就是一种惯性余威,软实力没有智慧的应用就是二代小聪明,打铁还需自身硬。

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这场中东代理人战争,会是巴以之战为主向库尔德人建国争战为主转化,这将是少则30年的战争,最终会演化为中美持大局,来决定战与和。俄国退出,叙利亚或许消失,伊郎息声,库尔德武装得以平衡,土耳其割地。而巴以则会在战争中各自得利。俄罗斯在中东从战术上说几乎全胜。以色列感到很危险。于是美国驻军。清除边境伊朗武装。削弱叙利亚。特别是土耳奇参战。美以更难受。全球来说。遏制中国是大战略。中东是次要性的。战术上的。中东稳定。中国压力更大。所以中国应该欢迎中东大战。以争取时间。以色列帮印度美国遏制中国。不可愿谅。中国定要帮助普京。把美国直接拖进去消耗。

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IS,就如同当年的伪军变国军,也就是一夜换个军帽!叙利亚反对派,民主军,等等说变就变。而且大量的IS被“运输”到了阿富汗,目的是什么?就是威慑一带一路!巴铁的克什米尔危矣!再者说,叙利亚,俄罗斯已经暗地里变相失败!懂军事知道,库尔德就是美以欧合谋准备组建的第二个以色列,形成犄角之势,控制中东!事实上,中东已经被美欧掌控,金融防火墙迅速成型中,土耳其由于喝下“军事政变的毒药“,只能高效配合美欧,最终贯通库尔德的出海口!大家可以看地图。伊朗也在被反复打击中,最危险的是克什米尔。

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为何叙利亚都不在联合国发个声,美国驻军叙利亚就是侵略,虽然不会有实际效果,但也得发声多喊喊美国侵略我们了!我们国家也可以直接给予俄罗斯和叙利亚武器牵制美国,这个时候我们不需要遮遮掩掩,再怎么样美国还是把我们当首要敌人来斗!普京高举反恐大旗进兵叙利亚,最大限度的联合中东各派特别是在自己飞机被中东大国土耳其击落,和土耳其即将爆发一场大战的危急时刻能够迅速抓住时机忍辱负重与土耳其和解一举扭转了不利局面,并趁机分化了美国阵营,减小了阻力,在非常困难的情况下,基本剿灭了已经建国的人类共同敌人is恐怖分子,而且还没有陷入中东泥潭,堪称完美,其高超的指挥艺术令世人叹服,所以说普京是21世纪初人类最伟大的政治家。返回搜狐,查看更多

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US must immediately leave area it controls in southern Syria — Lavrov
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US troops must immediately shut down their zone of control in southern Syria in the area of Al-Tanf, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov suggested when asked what should be done to help the Syrian peace settlement.
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Lavrov was referring to an area on Syria’s border with Jordan and Iraq, which the US declared to be under its protection last year. Among other things, it contains the Rukban refugee camp. The facility is apparently used by radical militants, including members of UN-designated terrorist group best known by its former name Al-Nusra Front, to recover and raid other parts of Syria, Lavrov said at the Valdai Club conference on the Middle East in Moscow. The US is turning a blind eye to such abuses of its protection, he added.

“Inside the Al-Tanf zone, which the Americans unilaterally declared under their protection, and inside the refugee camp jihadists are regularly reported to recover strength. On several occasions they conducted raids from there into other territory of the Syrian Arab Republic. This zone must be shut down immediately,” the Russian minister said.

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“Our colleagues from the UN for some reason are hesitant to say that humanitarian convoys cannot get into this US-controlled area because the US would not guarantee their safety,” Lavrov added. “Instead they focus attention on the humanitarian situation in Idlib or Eastern Ghouta.”

The minister added Russia has mounting evidence that the US has no intention to oppose this jihadist group in earnest.

The response came after a question from the think tank International Crisis Group about what “Russia could do more” in Syria to prevent an escalation of violence there, particularly between Iran and Israel. Lavrov said the question should be “what the US could refrain from doing” in Syria and that the answer was “stop playing dangerous games” and cease trying to partition the nation.

The Americans “in the territories they patronize east of the Euphrates River and all the way to the state border with Iraq create governing bodies which are designed by intention to have no links with Damascus,” he pointed out.

Lavrov also commented on the situation in the southwestern part of Syria on the border with Jordan and Israel – which was designated as a “de-escalation zone” by Syria, Russia, Turkey and Iran – and Israel’s interests in Syria. Israel accuses Iran of using proxy forces to seize control of parts of southern Syria, including those along the border, and has threatened to use military force to reverse the situation.

“We negotiated the creation of this zone with Jordan and the US and it’s not a secret that our Israeli colleagues were informed about what we discussed,” he said. “Now to implement everything we had agreed on we have to focus on one particular article, which said all parties to the agreement would work to make sure that no non-Syrian forces were present inside and near this de-escalation zone.”

The Russian diplomat added that the US carving out the Al-Tanf area was the exact opposite – a unilateral move that no other party agreed to.

The dispute between Israel and Iran, Lavrov said, certainly complicated the situation in Syria, and Moscow believes both parties need to take steps to defuse it. For instance, Iran’s statements that Israel was a Zionist entity that needs to be destroyed are perceived as absolutely unacceptable in Russia. But neither does Russia see as constructive Israel’s policy of turning every problem in the region into a vehicle for opposing Iran, he said.

“This is what we see in Syria, this is what we see in Yemen, and even the latest developments around the Palestinian issue, including Washington’s decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s exclusive capital, are to a large extent caused by the very same anti-Iranian bias,” Lavrov explained. “Both attitudes pose a risk of further damaging the situation in the region, which is already very pitiful.”

The Russian minister suggested that Israel and Iran should try to address their differences – including the latest flare-up involving an Iranian drone destroyed by Israel after reportedly violating the airspace of the Jewish state – by taking them to the UN for proper resolution. “Otherwise we will be rolling down the slope to a situation in which every incident is simply blamed on the other party and used to justify military action.”

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这2个北约盟国接近翻脸?土耳其狠打美国养在叙利亚的“狗”
2018-02-20 10:22 土耳其 /美国 /叙利亚
美国国务卿蒂勒森2月16日结束了为期6天的中东之行,成果之一就是缓和了与土耳其濒临破裂的关系。蒂勒森在2月15日与土耳其总统埃尔多安进行了极为私密的会谈,现场甚至没有助手、翻译、速记等工作人员。双方宣布要派出相关小组协调两国军队在叙利亚的行动,做出妥善安排,避免“潜在危机”演变成冲突。

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但双方的分歧依然没有弥合。美方一直拒绝认同埃尔多安在粉碎对手“阴谋”之后的大规模管束和镇压。为了表达不满,土耳其用2种手段“羞辱”和警告美国。

首先,当蒂勒森离开时,土耳其方面将6名新闻记者判处终生监禁,“罪名”就是2016年的未遂军事行动。这无疑是一种很不友好的示威。众所周知,当埃尔多安在1年半以前死里逃生后,就把矛头对准美国,因为美国包庇了他的最大敌人。看来,土耳其总统至今都没忘了这个仇。

其次,当埃尔多安下令在叙利亚北部展开代号为“橄榄枝行动”的军事活动后,美方表示反对和不快。土耳其干脆在蒂勒森来访前就将美国大使馆外的街道命名为“橄榄枝”,来了一个下马威。明知美国支持库尔德武装“人民保护队”,土耳其依然将其列为恐怖组织并予以猛烈打击,无疑是打狗给美国这个主人看。美方无疑会产生尴尬感。

从联合记者会上的情况来看,美国与土耳其之间的矛盾很尖锐。

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土耳其方面的底线是:美国支持的叙利亚库尔德民兵必须撤到幼发拉底河以东地区,而土耳其和美国军队可以联合部署到叙利亚曼比季地区。土耳其坚持认为所谓的“人民保护部队”是隶属于库尔德工人党的武装分支,是一个反叛组织。

美方则对土方开出的条件充耳不闻。蒂勒森很“霸道”地向土耳其提出一个要求:美国要继续向库尔德武装提供武器弹药等援助,呼吁安卡拉在“军事行动中”保持克制,还大言不惭地认为美土两国在叙利亚拥有共同利益。

当然,在表面上,两国还没有撕破脸。但也仅仅是在表面上。

土耳其外长恰武什奥卢“软中带硬”,声称“土美关系已经处于关键转折点,要么修复,要么持续恶化”,从中可以听出某种不太乐观的暗示。

蒂勒森虽然承认两国在叙利亚问题上有一些共同利益,可以共同打击某些极端组织,但也强调美土关系处于一个“危机点”。言外之意似乎是:土耳其必须服从,要打哪些组织必须经过美国同意。况且,美国主导的多国联盟在2018年1月中旬单方面宣布要与当地武装打造一支约30000人的所谓“边境安全部队”,部署在叙利亚北部和东部以及与土耳其、伊拉克交界地带和幼发拉底河沿岸。美国意在扶植一个听从自己号令的“国中之国”,可以想见,这只“边境安全部队”里必然会吸纳骁勇善战的库尔德民兵。土耳其已经联合俄罗斯、伊朗、叙利亚等国强烈谴责美方的强横。这也是美土关系陡然恶化的导火索。

双方的耐性正被快速消耗,已经开始在战场上较劲。

土耳其从1月20日开始打击叙利亚阿夫林地区的库尔德武装,截至目前,土耳其宣布将近1600名敌方人员被消灭、打伤或被俘。但土耳其也付出了巨大代价。如今战争已经陷入僵局,土军频频受挫。2月3日,土耳其至少7名士兵在叙利亚北部阿夫林地区的军事行动中死亡。土耳其军方刚在2月9日至10日夜袭36个库尔德武装的目标,随即就遭到报复。当地时间2月10日下午,土耳其一架军用直升机在“橄榄枝军事行动”中被击落,2名士兵丧生。俄媒2月18日报道,叙利亚库尔德武装甚至展开反攻,打击了土耳其境内的兵营。土耳其明白,没有美国的武器和钱,库尔德武装无法在土耳其军队的炮火下坚持这么长时间。土军在战场上挨了这么多“闷棍”,账其实要算到美国人头上。

面对叙利亚正规军即将进入阿夫林地区的消息,土耳其外长恰武什奥卢强硬表态:“没有任何力量可以阻挡我们。”显然已经杀红了眼。而根据媒体报道,由于土耳其迟迟不能打垮库尔德武装,伤亡不断上升,还持续受到美欧的压力,土军竟然已经使用了化武。美方则发出警告:如果属实,这将是对美国的直接挑战。

在叙利亚,美军早就直接出手,甚至在2月7日的空袭中还炸死至少5名俄罗斯武装人员。美国的态度已经摆在这里:打狗也要看主人,不允许哪个国家肆意欺负自己苦心栽培起来的库尔德武装。更深的一层意思恐怕是:中东是特朗普的重要市场,也是美国军工集团的摇钱树,美方一直以来都在中东培植自己的势力,进而制造乱局。大炮一响,才能黄金万两。如今土耳其要搞掉库尔德武装,无疑是断人财路。断人财路如害人性命,美国自然不会手软。

意识到事态严重性的土耳其也在寻找台阶。近日,土耳其宣布要从俄罗斯采购4套S-400防空导弹系统,合同总额约为25亿美元。土耳其方面还恶狠狠地表示:不接受任何威胁性语言。这无疑是冲着美国去的。从国家利益层面看,美欧及北约是盟友,而从埃尔多安巩固自身地位的角度看,俄罗斯才是地缘伙伴。

土耳其的反叛与倔强,又给特朗普添了一个头疼的问题。美土都是北约重要成员,而且也是北约的主要军事大国。如果美土矛盾长期无法解决,得利的将是莫斯科。可短期内,美土双方都没有让步的余地。总之,与美国作对的国家越多越好。悲哀的是,最终承受一切苦难的还是叙利亚人民。(完)

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war is best form of peace

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Putin & Xijinping both too kind and civilized, they should learn from Kim Jong Nuke and Duterte.

Massive death toll is universal solution to all political and security problems - universally, and timelessly (eternally) it works perfectly, and especially at this era when global over population is 8 billion and resources exhausting to this level, and planet ruined and polluted to this level. They still idiotically want to go about business peacefully and try to co-exist?

They are just committing whole man kind to a Total Extinction Suicide cum Genocide!

Dotard is begging for death toll, give it to him big, I mean tremendously. Thousands is insufficient, must start from millions, if possible billions. That will save the man kind from Total Extinction and many other non-human members of the planets.
 
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