Mortality Rate for COVID-19 May Be Closer to Influenza - I could have told them that 2 months ago

[zhihau]

Just looking at the mortality rate of covid19 as an indication of its severity is flawed.

Perhaps you’re right, when the Spaniards went around with their Conquistadors, the natives just have to succumb to the novel viruses the intruders brought along with them.

 

[nayr69sg]

Just looking at the mortality rate of covid19 as an indication of its severity is flawed.

First up, Covid19 is a novel virus... it's new. Which means NOBODY has any immunity to it.

Based on conservative medical estimates, 10% of the infected will require hospitalisation (of which a smaller percentage will kick the bucket).

And this 10% of the total population will require medical resources and expertise. This is ON TOP of the existing hospital cases like heart attacks, seasonal flu, stabbings, PMD accidents, suicides, anxiety attacks etc etc

This 10% extra will overwhelm any medical infrastructure and cause more non-covid deaths

Exactly.

Therein lies the problem.

The problem isnt so much the TOTAL number of people actually dying. It is considerable. But A LOT OF PEOPLE die every single day.

But with this covid19 eating up a lot more resources it adds pressure on the rest of the system to treat the usual cases.

You basically need to set up like specialized hospitals that ONLY treat covid19. And leave all the other hospitals alone.

The Italians have already admitted they made the mistake of sending covid19 cases to hospitals ALL OVER ITALY!

The covid19 virus thus spread to other patients at ALL THE HOSPITALS!!!!!!

Some people already very weak from heart failure liver failure etc. You add covid19 and they get overwhelmed too.

There are those who argue they are going to die anyway. Well many dont die right away. And their loved ones are not ready to let them go.

So the governments should do what USA is doing or China. either build new facilities specially to treat covid19 or convert existing infrastructure into temporary hospitals.

Singapore did this back with SARS. They made the mistake of moving patients to SGH which led to outbreak there. All other hospitals did not get SARS.

Singapore has done it again by moving covid patients to Mt E. Hopefully you don't see an outbreak at Mt E! I suspect this wont happen cos maybe there are NO patients at Mt E anyway! LOL!

 

[Rogue Trader]

Perhaps you’re right, when the Spaniards went around with their Conquistadors, the natives just have to succumb to the novel viruses the intruders brought along with them.

Small pox had(has?) a very high mortality rate. The red indians never had a chance

 

[Rogue Trader]

Exactly.

Therein lies the problem.

The problem isnt so much the TOTAL number of people actually dying. It is considerable. But A LOT OF PEOPLE die every single day.

But with this covid19 eating up a lot more resources it adds pressure on the rest of the system to treat the usual cases.

You basically need to set up like specialized hospitals that ONLY treat covid19. And leave all the other hospitals alone.

The Italians have already admitted they made the mistake of sending covid19 cases to hospitals ALL OVER ITALY!

The covid19 virus thus spread to other patients at ALL THE HOSPITALS!!!!!!

Some people already very weak from heart failure liver failure etc. You add covid19 and they get overwhelmed too.

There are those who argue they are going to die anyway. Well many dont die right away. And their loved ones are not ready to let them go.

So the governments should do what USA is doing or China. either build new facilities specially to treat covid19 or convert existing infrastructure into temporary hospitals.

Singapore did this back with SARS. They made the mistake of moving patients to SGH which led to outbreak there. All other hospitals did not get SARS.

Singapore has done it again by moving covid patients to Mt E. Hopefully you don't see an outbreak at Mt E! I suspect this wont happen cos maybe there are NO patients at Mt E anyway! LOL!

Yes. Covid19 has a very high infection rate as well.

Looking at the mortality rate alone does not tell that side of things

 

[eatshitndie]

Exactly.

Therein lies the problem.

The problem isnt so much the TOTAL number of people actually dying. It is considerable. But A LOT OF PEOPLE die every single day.

But with this covid19 eating up a lot more resources it adds pressure on the rest of the system to treat the usual cases.

You basically need to set up like specialized hospitals that ONLY treat covid19. And leave all the other hospitals alone.

The Italians have already admitted they made the mistake of sending covid19 cases to hospitals ALL OVER ITALY!

The covid19 virus thus spread to other patients at ALL THE HOSPITALS!!!!!!

Some people already very weak from heart failure liver failure etc. You add covid19 and they get overwhelmed too.

There are those who argue they are going to die anyway. Well many dont die right away. And their loved ones are not ready to let them go.

So the governments should do what USA is doing or China. either build new facilities specially to treat covid19 or convert existing infrastructure into temporary hospitals.

Singapore did this back with SARS. They made the mistake of moving patients to SGH which led to outbreak there. All other hospitals did not get SARS.

Singapore has done it again by moving covid patients to Mt E. Hopefully you don't see an outbreak at Mt E! I suspect this wont happen cos maybe there are NO patients at Mt E anyway! LOL!

prc initially made the same mistake of treating cases in all their hubei hospitals when the outbreak started. the national agencies stepped in later and built dedicated facilities to quarantine new cases while asymptomatic cases were sent to stadiums and makeshift housing. the practice of sending mild and presymptomatic cases for home quarantine exacerbated the problem as more at home got sick. italy also made that same mistake. isolation of asymptomatic and presymptomatic cases away from hospitals and the public is key to turning a corner on the pandemic.

 

[nayr69sg]

prc initially made the same mistake of treating cases in all their hubei hospitals when the outbreak started. the national agencies stepped in later and built dedicated facilities to quarantine new cases while asymptomatic cases were sent to stadiums and makeshift housing. the practice of sending mild and presymptomatic cases for home quarantine exacerbated the problem as more at home get sick. italy also made that same mistake. isolation of asymptomatic and presymptomatic cases away from hospitals and the public is key to turning a corner on the pandemic.

I agree and am with you on this.