Ministers Regularly Talking Stupid

[xingguy]

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Tuesday, June 10, 2014
Ministers regularly talking stupid

It could have been Goh Chok Tong if I had chosen to blog about this earlier. Vaguely in my mind now, he had this idea of top executives sharing their pay rise with rank and file workers conveniently forgetting that current workplace ethos would make his suggestion look stupid. Bosses would have increased the pay of workers from the company earnings without cutting back their own. Don't they decide on such matters? Really silly.

Here is another inane one, this time from DPM Teo. He was suggesting work life balance to low wage workers. Clearly this guy is out of touch. Sure lowly paid workers would welcome a better life but their greater pain is not making a living wage and you the PAP government had directly contributed to putting them in this predicament. Don't offer the excuse the jobs would have been lost to workers elsewhere.....

I chose Teo Chee Hean as my example since scrolling down my iPad I had a great picture my friend put up that couldn't be more apt for this occasion.

Instead of proving you are an Grade A government by coming up with original and bold policies which our Old Guard ministers did the new PAP only took what is best elsewhere and run it better here than where they were adapted from. Yep, that is why this is only a top boy in a class of inept governments. So we do better than many other countries but not good enough. That's why we have so many not making a living wage.

Unlike the founding fathers, ministers now protect their self interests and salaries first before our welfare. If I were a minister, I would ask for $1 pay until the problems are solved. This high pay is just making the job too hard to do. If you are totally committed to solving problems you wouldn't allow pay to stop you from succeeding right? But these ministers want to have their cake and eat it. I am not sure they can live life without personal trade-offs but they are always asking us to make painful trade-offs.

In time ministers might discover as society gets angrier it will adopt Hitler's attitude toward his generals.

That's right. If they were first class ministers, no pay is too large. If they are duds, even $1 is too much because they had prevented better men and women from doing the jobs they had failed in.

Update: 9:05pm

Managed to find this. So wishful, so fairy tale like. Life here is no longer like that. How could it be when our society is built on chasing money and keeping scores with money. And who was in the vanguard on this? This government. Now that we have arrived at a place many of us don't want to be, what's next?

Unless ministers show in a very tangible way they are not after money, I don't know how they are going to rebuild trust and succeed.

Update: June 12 9:00am

Someone as a comment to this post mentioned Lim Swee Say suggestion of training for a second career during office hours. Guess what? 93.8 FM had this as their topic for this morning Talk Back program.

And some left comments for the station as follows.

You don't expect candor on national radio but you could tell the two guests in the show today from ASME and Paul Heng were politely explaining how impractical this is.

 

[Leongsam]

If someone is earning so little that they can barely keep their heads above water, it is their own fault. You can't blame the PAP for that.

If the PAP was at fault, then everyone would be struggling but this is hardly the case. Many Singaporeans are very successful and are thriving thanks to the opportunities created by the astute policies of the PAP.

All my friends and relatives in Singapore lead very comfortable lives. Most of them are two car families, they go for regular holidays in Europe and the US and their CPF is overflowing. If they can succeed, then so can everyone if they put their minds to it.

 

[blindswordsman]

....Unless ministers show in a very tangible way they are not after money, I don't know how they are going to rebuild trust and succeed....

A woman pappy MP is on record of saying she might pack off if she could not get the high pay that she expected for being a pappy. She spoke like SG needed her more than she needed the money. Truly amazing to think she is indispensable.

 

[blindswordsman]

If someone is earning so little that they can barely keep their heads above water, it is their own fault. You can't blame the PAP for that.

If the PAP was at fault, then everyone would be struggling but this is hardly the case. Many Singaporeans are very successful and are thriving thanks to the opportunities created by the astute policies of the PAP.

All my friends and relatives in Singapore lead very comfortable lives. Most of them are two car families, they go for regular holidays in Europe and the US and their CPF is overflowing. If they can succeed, then so can everyone if they put their minds to it.

Boss, hate to refute you on your claim but somewhere in the labyrinth of this forum, you admitted that you are not what you said you are. So, your claim should be taken with a pinch of salt. Just your bad dream, ok?

 

[Leongsam]

A woman pappy MP is on record of saying she might pack off if she could not get the high pay that she expected for being a pappy. She spoke like SG needed her more than she needed the money. Truly amazing to think she is indispensable.

I agree with her wholeheartedly. Why should she have to make sacrifices for the peasants if she isn't appreciated.

 

[blindswordsman]

I agree with her wholeheartedly. Why should she have to make sacrifices for the peasants if she isn't appreciated.

A politician with sincere desire to serve the people should not expect to get salaries, perks and other fringe benefits like a honcho running a commercial enterprise.
If he is paid peanuts, he will still serve.

Look at the President of Venezuela. That guy is truly serving his people.

 

[xingguy]

If someone is earning so little that they can barely keep their heads above water, it is their own fault. You can't blame the PAP for that.

If the PAP was at fault, then everyone would be struggling but this is hardly the case. Many Singaporeans are very successful and are thriving thanks to the opportunities created by the astute policies of the PAP.

All my friends and relatives in Singapore lead very comfortable lives. Most of them are two car families, they go for regular holidays in Europe and the US and their CPF is overflowing. If they can succeed, then so can everyone if they put their minds to it.

You must have been bitten and got infected by that rabies doggy Lionheart aka Kopiuncle aka ilovesingapore aka theblackhole aka tigerbright.

Better seek medical help fast.

 

[Leongsam]

A politician with sincere desire to serve the people should not expect to get salaries, perks and other fringe benefits like a honcho running a commercial enterprise.
If he is paid peanuts, he will still serve.

Look at the President of Venezuela. That guy is truly serving his people.

Politicians are human beings like the rest of us. They want the best for their children and their families too.

As for the President of Venezuela, don't believe everything you read. Hugo Chavez sang from the same hymn book.

 

[frenchbriefs]

Occupy New Zealand and throw Leong Sam out!!!!!!

 

[escher]

If someone is earning so little that they can barely keep their heads above water, it is their own fault. You can't blame the PAP for that.

If the PAP was at fault, then everyone would be struggling but this is hardly the case. Many Singaporeans are very successful and are thriving thanks to the opportunities created by the astute policies of the PAP.

All my friends and relatives in Singapore lead very comfortable lives. Most of them are two car families, they go for regular holidays in Europe and the US and their CPF is overflowing. If they can succeed, then so can everyone if they put their minds to it.

SMEAR OF SHIT ON SOLE OF SHOE LKY AND HIS GANG OF PAPs CREATED THE SYSTEM IN STINKAPORE
WHERE THE ENTIRETY OF YOUR LABOUR HERE EXHAUSTED ON FOOD AND SHELTER JUST TO STAY LIVE
SO YOU WILL NOT HAVE ENERGY OR TIME TO THINK WHY IS LIFE LIKE THAT.

WHILE THE FUCKING PAPs LAUGH ALL THE WAY TO THEIR BANKS
AND GLOAT AT YOU WHILE THEY FUCK AND TIEW AND RAPE YOU.



Hang those PAP maggots cockroaches with piano wires from lamp posts to make them dance before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
BBQ those PAP maggots cockroaches before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
Cut a few more arseholes into those PAP maggots cockroaches to let out their shit before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
Make those PAP maggots cockroaches eat joss sticks and candle wax before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.

PAP is finished.
The stinking glue and terror that hold PAP together is that old fart smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY. LKY is about to die in days or weeks.
LKY will never allow good decent people into the PAP and good decent people will not want to get into the PAP. Those in PAP are the most corrupt and moral degenerates and moral bankrupts and moral filths that are being presented to stinkaporeans as moral compasses.
None of those in PAP work for anyone but that smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY, to help him hold down Singaporeans to screw and fuck hundreds of BILLIONs from us all into smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY stinkapore sovereign funds.
They are there in PAP because LKY know that they are a bunch of self serving greedy bastards and scrapings of scums of society. To call them maggots cockroaches will be to insult real maggots and real cockroaches.


WE ALL ARE NOW WAITING FOR THE DEATH OF LKY IN COMING DAYS OR WEEKS.
WE ALL WILL YUM SENG AND YUM SENG AND YUM SENG AGAIN AND AGAIN DANCING SINGING ON TABLE TOPS AND STREETS
WE THEN WILL SEE THOSE IN PAP WITH SHARPENED KNIVES HOOTING ARSEHLOON A DOZEN NEW ARSEHOLES AND THE DEATH OF THE ENTIRE LEE KWA CLAN
WE THEN WILL PICK UP PIANO WIRES AND HANG ALL THOSE REMAINING PAP AND THEIR COLLABORATORS FROM LAMP POSTS AND SEE THOSE BASTARDS AND BITCHES DANCE.
AND HAPPINESS WILL RETURN TO OUR LAND.
AND STINKAPORE WILL BECOME SINGAPORE ONCE MORE.
https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html.en

 

[blindswordsman]

Occupy New Zealand and throw Leong Sam out!!!!!!

Yeah, let him come back to SG and get crushed during peak hours in the MRT trains by the hordes of foreigners or let him face the discrimination at the work place that foreigners targeted at sinkies in SG or let him be stung by the derogatory remarks made by foreigners about sinkies in SG.

In other countries, foreigners know the risks of "attacking" the natives but in SG, even their embassy will support them.

 

[greedy and cunning]

If someone is earning so little that they can barely keep their heads above water, it is their own fault. You can't blame the PAP for that.

If the PAP was at fault, then everyone would be struggling but this is hardly the case. Many Singaporeans are very successful and are thriving thanks to the opportunities created by the astute policies of the PAP.

All my friends and relatives in Singapore lead very comfortable lives. Most of them are two car families, they go for regular holidays in Europe and the US and their CPF is overflowing. If they can succeed, then so can everyone if they put their minds to it.

many many are successful but at the expand of others.
the "many many" you mentioned is just the top few % of the population
while the "others" consists of more than 60%.

this is same thing happening in the evil uSa.
in fact sillypoore is following trends in uSa in whatever they do,
as a result sillypootians are in the same dire situation.
From 1978 to 2011, CEO compensation increased more than 725 percent, a rise substantially greater
than stock market growth and the painfully slow 5.7 percent growth in worker compensation over the same period.
In 1978, CEOs took home 26.5 times more than the average worker.
They now make roughly 206 times more than workers, EPI found.
The pay isn’t always tied to the performance of their businesses — as ThinkProgress has noted,
CEOs at companies like Bank of America often pocket huge pay increases even as the
company’s stock price plummets and jobs are cut.

Workers’ wages aren’t tied to productivity either.
Despite substantial gains in productivity since the 1970s, worker pay has remained flat.
According to Labor Department data cited by the Huffington Post, inflation-adjusted wages fell 2 percent in 2011.

As a result, American income inequality has skyrocketed, growing worse than it is in countries
like Pakistan and Ivory Coast. Wealth inequality is worse than it was even in Ancient Rome.
And, as pay skyrockets and tax rates fall for the richest Americans, the rising inequality has
left the bottom 95 percent of Americans saddled with more debt than ever before.

 

[halsey02]

For the past 4 decades coming to 5, the 60% of the population, have been voting STUPID....they like to hear STUPID!..

 

[Leongsam]

many many are successful but at the expand of others.
the "many many" you mentioned is just the top few % of the population
while the "others" consists of more than 60%.

Life is a constant battle and the wounds inflicted can be cruel. However, no government can guarantee equal outcome. The government's job is to create equal opportunities and in this regard, the PAP has done an excellent job.

Only one team can win the world cup. It's the same in any society. There are winners and losers in all countries not just Singapore. As you rightly pointed out, the USA is in the same boat despite it being a "democracy".

 

[greedy and cunning]

Life is a constant battle and the wounds inflicted can be cruel. However, no government can guarantee equal outcome. The government's job is to create equal opportunities and in this regard, the PAP has done an excellent job.

Only one team can win the world cup. It's the same in any society. There are winners and losers in all countries not just Singapore. As you rightly pointed out, the USA is in the same boat despite it being a "democracy".

people are all over the world are NOT asking for equal outcome..
rather they simply want to be treated more fairly.
no the loop sided effect of huge gain for a few at the expend of the majority.

you cannot and should not compare football matches to livelihood of people.
they are entirely different matter.
the winner in a football match wont cause the spectators to suffering
the loser will not be poorer neither.

 

[greedy and cunning]

why english teacher neber correct the 2 mistakes :

at the expand of others.
at the expend of the majority.

 

[johnny333]

Life is a constant battle and the wounds inflicted can be cruel. However, no government can guarantee equal outcome. The government's job is to create equal opportunities and in this regard, the PAP has done an excellent job.

Only one team can win the world cup. It's the same in any society. There are winners and losers in all countries not just Singapore. As you rightly pointed out, the USA is in the same boat despite it being a "democracy".

In a football game you can't fix your opponents by suing them in kangeroo courts, or lock them up,.... At least not in a fair game.

In a democracy you are allowing the others side(s) a chance to run a show differently. Unlike in Spore where for 50 years the same family has been allowed to make billions at the expense of the "lesser mortals"

 

[Leongsam]

people are all over the world are NOT asking for equal outcome..
rather they simply want to be treated more fairly.
no the loop sided effect of huge gain for a few at the expend of the majority.

you cannot and should not compare football matches to livelihood of people.
they are entirely different matter.
the winner in a football match wont cause the spectators to suffering
the loser will not be poorer neither.

Life imitates sport in many ways and the sooner your learn that in life, nothing is fair, the more prepared you'll be to tackle the battle for survival that is thrown at you on a daily basis.

Your comments about football aren't accurate either. Manchester United is far better off than the struggling 3rd division teams who cannot pay their bills. Is it fair? Of course it isn't but then that's what life is all about.

 

[Leongsam]

In a football game you can't fix your opponents by suing them in kangeroo courts, or lock them up,.... At least not in a fair game.

In a democracy you are allowing the others side(s) a chance to run a show differently. Unlike in Spore where for 50 years the same family has been allowed to make billions at the expense of the "lesser mortals"

A football club may not be able to sue their opponents but the battle is definitely not fair. The wealthy clubs can buy the best players and the best players bring more success which makes the club even wealthier.

The defeated clubs languishing at the bottom of the table see their revenue falling and wish that they could rejuvenate their line up but they don't have the money so they fall even further behind.

Is that fair? Of course not. However, that's reality.

 

[rushifa666]

Forget the fascination with fairness. The point is they are inept bums. Most have never worked in the real world. It's all just hot air from people who know nothing. Don't even associate yourself with them Sam. You are self made. It is an insult that such parasites exist