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Serious Ministers: Indian Muslims are Malays, Christian Malays are not Malays

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  1. Patriot

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    [h=1]Ministers: Indian Muslims are Malays, Christian Malays are not Malays[/h]
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  2. Patriot

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    [FONT=&quot]At the Institute of Policy forum yesterday (Sep 8), Minister of State Chan Chun Sing and Senior Minister of State Janil Puthucheary both confirmed that the Malay race is essentially Muslim and that all Indian Muslims are Malays, and Christian Malays are not Malays.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]The two Ministers were responding to a Malay Christian IPS professor Dr Mathew Mathews and NUS law professor Dr Kevin Tan. Minister Chan Chun Sing said it is “common-sensical” a person’s race is decided by the 16-member committee under Lee Hsien Loong:[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]“A 16-member committee will certify a prospective candidate’s racial group. The very concept of race evolves and the system to determine one’s race should not take a definitive, restrictive, exclusive approach. The community must come to terms (with) who best represents them. If the community accepts someone… then who else outside the community will want to dispute that and who else in the community will want to dispute that? So it’s a very common-sensical way to allow the community to decide for themselves.”[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Senior Minister Janil Puthucheary told Dr Mathew Mathews that he might be a Malay but he will be denied the contest because he is Christian. The Minister then tell the Christian Malay to contest in an “open” election:[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]“If the Malay community changes its aspirations and its sense of what makes a Malay five years from now, there should be a way to reflect that in the choice of candidate, without us having to go for a potentially very divisive Constitutional amendment. The hypothetical individual mentioned by Dr Mathew could feel excluded, but the individual could still contest in an open election.”[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]NUS law professor Dr Kevin Tan confirmed that the government having the final call on what race a person is is unconstitutional:[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]“That the decisions of the Community Committee— which also assesses minority candidates under the Group Representation Constituency system in General Elections — are final, is also a problem. That is probably unconstitutional… The basic fundamental principle about the separation of powers is that if the court has to interpret the constitution, no branch of the Government can tell the court what to do.”[/FONT]
     
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  3. JohnTan

    JohnTan Alfrescian (InfP) Old Timer

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    Is janil keling the head of the 16 men committee to decide who is mud or not mud? He seems pretty sure that a christian malay is not malay.
     
  4. zhihau

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    I love the way these white bastards digging a deeper hole for themselves...

    Bwahahahahahahaa!!! Fuck the PAP dead!!!
     
  5. zhihau

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    What about Malays whom had converted to Christians?
     
  6. eatshitndie

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    they becum pinoys.
     
  7. zhihau

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    So Chinese Muslims also Malays now?
     
  8. borom

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    Now you have one Chinese and one Indian minister telling us who is or is not a Malay-how ironical .

    Isn't it for the Malays themselves to decide?
    I would rather listen to the opinion of Assoc Prof Dr YAACOB Ibrahim, ,Dr Mohamad Maliki Bin Osman , Mr Amrin Amin , Assoc Prof Dr Muhammad Faishal Ibrahim, Mr Azmoon Ahmad ,Dr Intan Azura Mokhtar,Mr Muhamad Faisal Bin Abdul Manap , ,Ms Rahayu Mahzam ,Mr Saktiandi Supaat ,Mr Zainal Sapari and Mr Zaqy Mohamad.
    Mr MASAGOS Zulkifli Bin Masagos Mohamad already spoke at the launch of the annual Malay Language Month but not on this topic.
     
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  9. Narong Wongwan

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    And all that just to prevent one Tan Cheng Bock from the Istana
     
  10. Charlie99

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    If a half Malay-half Indian is considered a Malay but a Christian Malay is not considered to be a Malay for the Presidential elections,
    I wonder whether or not a Chinese individual who converted to Islam will be considered a Malay.
     
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    The answer is a sure NO - if Cheng Bok were to decide to covert to moslem..
     
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    they becum tiongkok huan nah or halal cockcutters. they will miss babi for sure, especially sio bak from roasted suckling pig.

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    What about Chinese converts to Islam and kawin minah; their offspring is determine by the race of the father or mother? So is the offspring official race declared by the 16 as well.

    The whole PE has come to the pits of a whole new level of nonsense; now a jiuhu ministar can declare he might be Malay but a Christian when his name clearly states otherwise. So his offsprings are what race given that his spouse is Chinese.
     
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    But these bustards have absolute power. When cornered they have the Secret Ministerial Committee and Parliament to whitewash anything.

    The have the right to declare a monkey as an elephant, should they decide to.
     
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    Indian Muslims are called Mamak in Mudland. They are not Malays. Indian is a race, likewise Malay. Muslim is a religion. Why is it so hard for our learned ministers to know the difference between race and religion?

    If an Indian is a Muslim is a Malay, then Chinese who are Christians are angmos, Malays who embrace Hinduism are Indians, angmos who become Buddhist are Chinese. Alamak, why these purported brilliant people are so confused?
     
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    Lee Kuan Yew On Race-Based Politics And Why It Will Destroy Our Society

    BY SADHO RAM — 25 MAR 2015

    “Malaysians saw Malaysia as a Malay country, all others are lodgers, “orang tumpangan”, and they the Bumiputras, sons of the soil, run the show.” Lee Kuan Yew speaks his mind about why he never allowed segregation in Singapore and why racial politics is not the way forward.
     
  17. bobby

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    So if a Chinese Muslim from Xinjiang marries a Singaporean Malay and have a child...the child considered Malay?
     
  18. zhihau

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    Peranakan how?
     
  19. syed putra

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    Stupid bums.
    The constitution states that a malay is one who practise muslim faith and malay culture or tradition.
    Anybody who does this, whether indian, chinese, ang moh, arab, turkish, pakistani, pinnoy, bangla, japs koreans etc will be considered a malay. Full stop.
     
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    Peranakan eats pork leh....
     

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