Minister tells sinkies to fuck off, nothing wrong with BTO flats

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No compromise in quality despite increase in BTO flats: MND
On average, about one-third of all new Build-To-Order (BTO) residents approach the Building Service Centre for assistance with defects after collecting their keys, says Minister of State for National Development Desmond Lee.



SINGAPORE: Despite a significant ramping up in the Build-To-Order (BTO) programme over the last four years, the quality of the flats has not been compromised, Minister of State for National Development Desmond Lee said in Parliament on Monday (Jul 13).

Responding to questions from several MPs on defects in BTO flats, Mr Lee said that an average of one-third of all new residents approach the Building Service Centre for assistance with defects after collecting their keys.

About 25 per cent of these requests for assistance relate to issues such as low water pressure due to compliance with water saving measures, as well as paint stains that need to be cleaned, he said. The majority of the other requests are because of surface imperfections such as hairline cracks on walls, scratches on timber floor, or uneven tile joints, he said, adding that the number of defects reported has not changed significantly.

“Such imperfections are mostly within acceptable industry norms and these are also common in private developments. They can and should be rectified quickly by the contractors, and do not affect the structural integrity or safety of the building.”

There is a “system of checks” in place to ensure that BTO flats are free of major defects, Mr Lee said.

“However, due to the high dependency on workmanship of individual workers, we can expect that there will be some defects,” he said. “Sometimes, this is due to differences in the understanding of what constitutes a defect. For example, some owners have given feedback on colour inconsistencies for floors with timber finishes. As timber is a natural product, it is not possible to achieve a perfectly homogenous look.”

Mr Lee said that the Housing and Development Board (HDB) has “zero tolerance” for defects which may compromise structural or safety standards, or which deviate significantly from what has been promised to buyers.

LEGAL RECOURSE

On the recent complaints of defects in various projects under the Design, Build and Sell Scheme (DBSS), Mr Lee said that developers are contractually obliged to build the units in a “good and workman-like manner”.

“DBSS projects are developed by different private developers, who may offer varying fixtures and finishes for their project. The feedback on the quality of finishes would differ from project to project,” he said.

Nonetheless, residents who face issues with the quality of the flats may report them to the Building Service Centre managed by the developer during the Defects Liability Period, Mr Lee said. If the developer fails to address them, the buyers will have legal recourse against the developer as provided for under the Sales and Purchase Agreement.

“Although HDB is not a party to the S&P Agreement, HDB plays an active role in ensuring a fair and satisfactory outcome. When DBSS flat buyers raise concerns or feedback about DBSS units, HDB will ask the developer to take appropriate action,” he said.
 
Remember the Golden Rule: ignore what they say, watch what they do (or not do).
 
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wah.. finally he returned after such a looooooong leave; BTO flats buyers, better be prepared for another defect.... tikus
 
And he avoided mentioning the 1.17m corridors which do not comply with THEIR own low safety standards.
 
HDB say BTO problems are mainly low water pressure and paint stains which can be resolved easily. :eek:
 
How can a PAP MP sit on the board of directors of one of the largest contractors HDB uses? Is this not a conflict of interest? Lian Beng's business is to win contracts from the HDB, and how can an MP Shithole Yih Pin that votes on the budget relating to public housing also be paid by a contractor who benefits from it? This fucking MP has resigned now, but he held the post at Lian Beng for 10 years!!

These are the contracts Lian Beng won from HDB while Shithole Yih Pin was on the BOD.

Building Contract including Sanitary, Water & Gas Installations at Choa Chu Kang N3C13A Neighbourhood Centre
Housing & Development Board
Building Contract including CD Shelter, Sanitary, Water & Gas Installations at Pasir Ris N5C12 (Total 420 units) Housing & Development Board
Building Contract including CD Shelter, Sanitary, Water & Gas Installations at Tampines N3C13
Housing & Development Board
Building Contract including Sanitary, Water & other Plumbing installations and works at Tampines N7C6 (Total 409 units)
Housing & Development Board
Building Contract including CD Shelter, Sanitary, Water & Gas Installations at Kallang / Whampoa RC 4 (Total 216 units) Housing & Development Board
Building Contract including Sanitary, Water & other Plumbing installations and works at Hougang N5C9 (Total 417 units) Housing & Development Board
Building Works at Serangoon Central, N3C12 (Total 428 Dwelling Units) Housing & Development Board
Building Contract including Sanitary, Water & other Plumbing installations and Works at Bukit Panjang N5C9 (Total 536 units)
Housing & Development Board
Building Works at Jurong East N2C23 (Total 494 Dwelling Units)
Housing & Development Board
Building and Civil Engineering Works at Bukit Merah RC 19 (Total 516 Dwelling Units)
Housing & Development Board
Building Works at Sembawang N4C8 (Total 327 Dwelling Units)

Housing & Development Board
Building including Civil Engineering Works at Sengkang N2C14&15 (Total 972 Dwelling Units)

Housing & Development Board
Building Works at Sembawang N4C1 (Total 507 Dwelling units)

Housing & Development Board
Building Works at Sembawang N3C3 (Total 416 Dwelling Units)

Housing & Development Board
Building Works at Bukit Panjang N1C11 (Total 488 Dwelling Units)

Housing & Development Board
Building and Electrical Works at Sengkang N3C4 (J.V.)

Housing & Development Board
Building and Civil Engineering Works at Bukit Merah RC20 (Total 468 Dwelling Units)

Housing & Development Board
Building and Electrical Works at Punggol East C16 (Total 467 Dwelling Units)

Housing & Development Board
Building, Civil Engineering & Electrical Works at Bukit Merah RC 46 and Repair, Reconstruction and Reinstatement Works to Sunken Apron and House Sewers at Hougang Town

Housing & Development Board
Building, Civil Engineering, Electrical and Landscaping Works at Bukit Merah RC 33 (Total 630 Dwelling Units) and RC 39A (Neighbourhood Centre)

Housing & Development Board
Upgrading of Blocks 13, 15, 16, 18, 19, 20, 21, 23 & 24 at Telok Blangah Crescent Precinct (MUP 11)

Housing & Development Board
Building, Civil Engineering, Piling, Electrical Works and Landscaping Works at Punggol East Contract 6, 7 & 8 and Common Green (Total 1194 Dwelling Units)

Housing & Development Board
Erection and construction of carpark building including electrical. Substation and all ancillary works for Kallang/Whampoa RC2

Housing & Development Board
Building and electrical works for 524 dwelling units at Sengkang N3C4

Housing & Development Board
Building and Electrical Works at Toa Payoh RC32 and Bukit Merah RC48

Housing & Development Board
(A) Building Works at Sengkang Neighbourhood 2 Contract 34 (Total 424 Dwelling Units) (B) Contingency Works

Housing & Development Board
Marsiling Community Centre at Marsiling Road

Housing & Development Board
Building including Mechanical & Electrical Works at Bedok Industrial Park E at Bedok North Street 5, Contract 7 (Total : 307 industrial units) (Contract No: IPD/57/99)
Housing & Development Board
Building works at Punggol West Contract 1 (Total: 559 dwelling units) (Contract No: P/159/00)
Housing & Development Board
Building Works at Queenstown Redevelopment Contract 10 (Total 397 dwelling units) Contract No. P/296/96
Housing & Development Board
Building including Electrical Works at Jurong West Neighbourhood 6, Contract 16 (Total 425 dwelling units) Contract No: P/316/97
Housing & Development Board
 
“Although HDB is not a party to the S&P Agreement, HDB plays an active role in ensuring a fair and satisfactory outcome. When DBSS flat buyers raise concerns or feedback about DBSS units, HDB will ask the developer to take appropriate action,” he said.

Why this asshole say HDB is not party to the S & P agreement? Are not the rules of eligibility set by the HDB? Do they not qualify for HDB housing loans? Does not the land revert back to HDB after the 99 years lease instead of to the developer? HDB is 100% thoroughly involved in DBSS and this asshole Desmond Lee try to siam away the responsibility?
 
“Although HDB is not a party to the S&P Agreement, HDB plays an active role in ensuring a fair and satisfactory outcome. When DBSS flat buyers raise concerns or feedback about DBSS units, HDB will ask the developer to take appropriate action,” he said.

Why this asshole say HDB is not party to the S & P agreement? Are not the rules of eligibility set by the HDB? Do they not qualify for HDB housing loans? Does not the land revert back to HDB after the 99 years lease instead of to the developer? HDB is 100% thoroughly involved in DBSS and this asshole Desmond Lee try to siam away the responsibility?

DBSS is an 'outsourced' project. Anything wrong, go bug the vendor, don't bug me. :D
 
You can talk to Ong Ye Kung. He was once on the board of directors with developer Sim Lian Co. Not sure if he still is. But he's quite knowledgeable about property development. You can ask him for advice.
 
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