Microsoft says "Fuck you" if you dont have the latest CPU for Windows 11.

[blackmondy]

 

[laksaboy]

There's no better time to switch to a Mac. All you need to do is ensure the stuff on your NTFS-formatted drives can be read on MacOS.

Microsoft is still fucking around with Intel x86 chips, while Apple Macs have already moved on to Apple M1 ARM-based chips. The performance gap (including power efficiency) between Windows PCs and Macs will be very obvious in 2-3 years time.

Windows is the last remaining fig leaf. It is very common to get by a day without touching a single Microsoft product.

 

[eatshitndie]

intel is lagging behind badly, after hiring a bunch of nehs to run its hardware and chip division. same as qualcomm. ah nehs not good with chips and hardware.

 

[blackmondy]

There's no better time to switch to a Mac. All you need to do is ensure the stuff on your NTFS-formatted drives can be read on MacOS.

Microsoft is still fucking around with Intel x86 chips, while Apple Macs have already moved on to Apple M1 ARM-based chips. The performance gap (including power efficiency) between Windows PCs and Macs will be very obvious in 2-3 years time.

Windows is the last remaining fig leaf. It is very common to get by a day without touching a single Microsoft product.

I have no love for a commie company like Apple. Mac OS used to be good. Not anymore.

 

[Scrooball (clone)]

So most people won't be able to install Windows 11 if they do not have at least an 8th gen processor or newer. Those with 6th or 7th gen processors can suck thumb!

How to tell if you are using an 8th gen processor.... let me give u a simple tip. Just search 'system information' > 'processor' > if it is 8th gen, it should be something like Intel® Core™ i7-8550U Processor

 

[Scrooball (clone)]

Windows 11 is free, but your CPU might not be officially supported​

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Microsoft’s Windows 11 hardware changes are surprising some
By Tom Warren@tomwarren Jun 25, 2021, 5:35am EDT
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Windows 11 is arriving later this year as a free upgrade for Windows 10 users, but many are discovering that their hardware isn’t compatible. Microsoft has altered its minimum hardware requirements, and it’s the CPU changes that are most surprising here. Windows 11 will only officially support 8th Gen and newer Intel Core processors, alongside Apollo Lake and newer Pentium and Celeron processors.

That potentially rules out millions of existing Windows 10 devices from upgrading to Windows 11 with full support, and even devices like Microsoft’s own Surface Studio 2 which the company is still selling right now for $3,499. Older devices that aren’t officially supported will be met with a warning during the Windows 11 install that the upgrade is not recommended, but the OS should still install.

Windows 11 will also only officially support AMD Ryzen 2000 and newer processors, and 2nd Gen or newer EPYC chips. You can find the full list of supported processors on Microsoft’s site, but here’s the basic breakdown:

WINDOWS 11 SUPPORT FOR INTEL​

• Intel 8th Gen (Coffee Lake)
• Intel 9th Gen (Coffee Lake Refresh)
• Intel 10th Gen (Comet Lake)
• Intel 10th Gen (Ice Lake)
• Intel 11th Gen (Rocket Lake)
• Intel 11th Gen (Tiger Lake)
• Intel Xeon Skylake-SP
• Intel Xeon Cascade Lake-SP
• Intel Xeon Cooper Lake-SP
• Intel Xeon Ice Lake-SP

WINDOWS 11 SUPPORT FOR AMD​

• AMD Ryzen 2000
• AMD Ryzen 3000
• AMD Ryzen 4000
• AMD Ryzen 5000
• AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2000
• AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3000
• AMD Ryzen Threadripper Pro 3000
• AMD EPYC 2nd Gen
• AMD EPYC 3rd Gen

Originally, Microsoft noted that CPU generation requirements are a “soft floor” limit for the Windows 11 installer, which should have allowed some older CPUs to be able to install Windows 11 with a warning, but hours after we published this story, the company updated that page to explicitly require the list of chips above. We’ve reached out to Microsoft to clarify its CPU requirements and support, and we’ll update you accordingly.

Many Windows 10 users have been downloading Microsoft’s PC Health App (available here) to see whether Windows 11 works on their systems, only to find it fails the check. As Microsoft now requires a TPM (Trusted Platform Module), this has led to some additional confusion around hardware support.

That earlier page said Windows 11 would also require TPM capable of at least 1.2 support and UEFI Secure Boot. Both of these technologies are designed to improve the security of Windows, and prevent malware and ransomware from tampering with encryption keys and other secure elements of the operating system. Now, it appears Microsoft may be mandating TPM 2.0, but again, we’re checking on that.

While Microsoft has required TPM support for OEM hardware certification since Windows 10, it hasn’t actively required Windows to have this fully enabled. That’s changing in Windows 11, and it means if your laptop or PC shipped without these BIOS options enabled then you’re going to have to go searching for a setting to switch on.

Windows 11 has new hardware requirements.
“Almost every CPU in the last 5-7 years has a TPM,” explains David Weston, director of enterprise and OS security at Microsoft. Weston is recommending that Windows 10 users failing Microsoft’s Windows 11 upgrade checker requirements should ensure BIOS options for “PTT” on Intel systems are enabled, or “PSP fTPM” on AMD devices. As every BIOS has different settings, you might need to refer to your laptop’s manual if you’re struggling to find the option.

If you’ve enabled TPM support but you’re still not passing the Windows 11 upgrade checker, it’s likely because your CPU isn’t on the fully supported list. Intel has confirmed Microsoft’s Windows 11 CPU requirements. “A broad range of Intel-based platforms are expected to support Windows 11: 8th Gen and newer Intel Core processors, as well as Intel Pentium processors and Intel Celeron processors from the ‘Apollo Lake’ generation and newer,” says an Intel spokesperson in a statement to The Verge.

This is the first significant shift in Windows hardware requirements since the release of Windows 8 back in 2012, and the CPU changes are understandably catching people by surprise. Microsoft is also requiring a front-facing camera for all Windows 11 devices except desktop PCs from January 2023 onwards. It’s another change that will shape the hardware that Windows 11 will run on in the coming years.

Update, 5:45AM ET: Added details about Microsoft’s soft limit for the Windows 11 installer.
Update, 4:06PM ET: Added that Microsoft’s compatibility page has now changed, with different CPU and TPM requirements.

 

[laksaboy]

And going by Microsoft's track record, never be an early adopter of its new OS.

 

[glockman]

Anyone using Linux on their desktop? Free, powerful and not prone to viruses. Linux Mint looks to be a viable alternative to Windows.

https://linuxmint.com/
https://www.linux.com/what-is-linux/

 

[Hypocrite-The]

intel is lagging behind badly, after hiring a bunch of nehs to run its hardware and chip division. same as qualcomm. ah nehs not good with chips and hardware.

Since all these top of the line yank companies are moving backwards. How r the yanks going to defeat the tiongs? Intel n Qualcomm etc should b treated as strategic companies..n it's in the yanks interest to ensure they grow from strength to strength..

 

[nayr69sg]

There's no better time to switch to a Mac. All you need to do is ensure the stuff on your NTFS-formatted drives can be read on MacOS.

Microsoft is still fucking around with Intel x86 chips, while Apple Macs have already moved on to Apple M1 ARM-based chips. The performance gap (including power efficiency) between Windows PCs and Macs will be very obvious in 2-3 years time.

Windows is the last remaining fig leaf. It is very common to get by a day without touching a single Microsoft product.

My daughter has a Mac Laptop.

She tells me all the time that the Mac is bad. I don't understand what she is really referring to. Something about how many of her university stuff doesnt work well on Mac? But she doesn't like her Mac Laptop. She also has a PC laptop too.

Meanwhile the rest of the family are PC users.

 

[tanwahtiu]

When u can buy a new latest mobile anytime worth thousands of dollars but come w PC u stinge...

Why shd MS still support old junk with upgrade for free...

 

[eatshitndie]

Since all these top of the line yank companies are moving backwards. How r the yanks going to defeat the tiongs? Intel n Qualcomm etc should b treated as strategic companies..n it's in the yanks interest to ensure they grow from strength to strength..

there’s amd which divested its manufacturing arm to form globalfoundries, private chip firm based in ny and owned by uae sovereign wealth fund. there’re also smaller chip firms such as nvidia and broadcom which are based in sillycon valley. apple is fast becumming a microchip company, with its own designs and chip teams. it farms out chip manufacturing to tsmc. the world’s fab 4 of <6.9nm chip manufacturing are tsmc, samsung, intel, and globalfoundries. not a tiong company nor prc proxy in sight. it will take them years if not decades to be able to make <6.9mm chips.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

there’s amd which divested its manufacturing arm to form globalfoundries, private chip firm based in ny and owned by uae sovereign wealth fund. there’re also smaller chip firms such as nvidia and broadcom which are based in sillycon valley. apple is fast becumming a microchip company, with its own designs and chip teams. it farms out chip manufacturing to tsmc. the world’s fab 4 of <6.9nm chip manufacturing are tsmc, samsung, intel, and globalfoundries. not a tiong company nor prc proxy in sight. it will take them years if not decades to be able to make <6.9mm chips.

In the past the yanks won wars bcos their source of production was all in Yankee land. Now with chip production being outsourced to other countries..wat happens when they can't get the chips n other strategic materials? N how about rare earth minerals? They are 100% dependent on the ChiCons. In the past they had 100% of the supply..now they have none.

 

[eatshitndie]

In the past the yanks won wars bcos their source of production was all in Yankee land. Now with chip production being outsourced to other countries..wat happens when they can't get the chips n other strategic materials? N how about rare earth minerals? They are 100% dependent on the ChiCons. In the past they had 100% of the supply..now they have none.

trump saw this and asked tsmc and foxconn to invest on the american homeland by building billion$ manufacturing facilities. biden the bozo doesn’t care, and the pressure for tsmc and foxconn to build in america has been lifted. dems have no strategic vision.

 

[tanwahtiu]

trump saw this and asked tsmc and foxconn to invest on the american homeland by building billion$ manufacturing facilities. biden the bozo doesn’t care, and the pressure for tsmc and foxconn to build in america has been lifted. dems have no strategic vision.

These 2 Taiwanese companies leave Taiwan becos of the bitch President woman. Why stay with a warmonger bitch instigated by bully US...

Put a manufacturing plants are easy can be anywhere there are cheap labours and access to funding..... but talents still come from Hokkien kias Taiwanese...

 

[eatshitndie]

These 2 Taiwanese companies leave Taiwan becos of the bitch President woman. Why stay with a warmonger bitch instigated by bully US...

Put a manufacturing plants are easy can be anywhere there are cheap labours and access to funding..... but talents still come from Hokkien kias Taiwanese...

aiyah. engineers in taiwan are so poorly paid. 36.9 years ago, starting pay was only us$1200. now, shockingly, it’s still us$1200. pay them 3 times more, and they will migrate to u.s.

 

[laksaboy]

Since all these top of the line yank companies are moving backwards. How r the yanks going to defeat the tiongs? Intel n Qualcomm etc should b treated as strategic companies..n it's in the yanks interest to ensure they grow from strength to strength..

LOL, the Tiongs only advantage is being the cheap labour sweatshops for tech companies. Even that is going away as boycotts continue.

A totalitarian regime has zero innovation.

 

[CharKuayTeow]

Anyone using Linux on their desktop? Free, powerful and not prone to viruses. Linux Mint looks to be a viable alternative to Windows.

https://linuxmint.com/
https://www.linux.com/what-is-linux/

We use it in our company. Users can’t tell the difference…

 

[Hypocrite-The]

trump saw this and asked tsmc and foxconn to invest on the american homeland by building billion$ manufacturing facilities. biden the bozo doesn’t care, and the pressure for tsmc and foxconn to build in america has been lifted. dems have no strategic vision.

N yet Biden won the erection n had 80 million votes? C'mon man

 

[eatshitndie]

N yet Biden won the erection n had 80 million votes? C'mon man

u.s. have gone to the chimpanzees and baboons.