Marina Mahathir on tudung issue

[duluxe]

Datin Paduka Marina Mahathir has criticised the “Arabisation” of Islam in Malaysia amid the institutionalisation and growing conservatism of the faith here.

The social activist pointed out that that it is very difficult to find traditional “baju Melayu” for women during Hari Raya as Arab attire like kaftans, which are long tunics, became more popular instead over the years.




“This is just Arabisation. Our culture — it’s colonialism, Arab colonialism,” Marina told Malay Mail Online in a recent interview here.

“Kaftans are easy to wear. But what happened to our tradition, culture, everything? It’s lost,” she lamented, pointing out that Malay women below 50 generally do not know how to tie the ‘baju kurung’ skirt so that it falls into pleats and makes it easier to walk in.


The eldest child of former prime minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad said Islam’s biggest problem in Malaysia is the fear of knowledge of the religion itself.


“Islam has a very strong intellectual history, but there’s no intellect at all in the way Islam is taught here. We’re taught rituals; we’re not taught about the great thinkers and differences between them,” she said.

“When you read the history of Islam when it first came down, it was about doing away with tribalism... but you now have this thing where you’re wanting to go to a tribe, or else, the other tribes, even though all are officially Muslim, are not allowed,” she added.

The Sunni denomination is the prevalent ideology in Malaysia and any other Islamic schools of thought, including Shia, are considered deviant.

Marina also criticised the authorities for “inventing new enemies all the time”, questioning a minister for telling Muslims to watch out for “Quranism” shortly after Dr Mahathir said the Quran is supreme and that hadiths, which are sayings attributed to Prophet Muhammad, come after the holy book.

“It’s a new ‘ism’. Liberalism, pluralism, communism, feminism, Quranism. But racism, fascism, they don’t include,” she said.

Friday sermons sanctioned by the government have repeatedly warned the predominant Muslim community against philosophies like liberalism and pluralism.

Marina hit out at the government’s repeated calls for Muslims to unite and conform, pointing out that it does not allow room for individuality, while Muslim women are criticised when they go against the norm, citing the K-pop concert controversy where Muslim girls in headscarves hugged the Korean artistes, the female BFM journalist who questioned hudud and women in tudung touching canines at a controversial pet-a-dog event.

“Women always get attacked,” said the women’s rights activist.

“The guys get away because you can’t actually tell, unless they’re in a kopiah and beard and they’re touching a dog,” she added.

 

[knnccb]

she shld give a talk at Marina Square

 

[laksaboy]

Organized religion is essentially culture, and Islam is 7th century Arabic culture. Back in the day and in that area (desert), dressing up a certain way might be beneficial.

I have mentioned this before, but once I saw a full burqa woman at the Sentosa beach. It was in the afternoon and the sun was very hot. Her husband and kids were in their swimwear. I felt uncomfortable just by looking at her. We NS slaves know all about getting heatstroke.

 

[knnccb]

Organized religion is essentially culture, and Islam is 7th century Arabic culture. Back in the day and in that area (desert), dressing up a certain way might be beneficial.

I have mentioned this before, but once I saw a full burqa woman at the Sentosa beach. It was in the afternoon and the sun was very hot. Her husband and kids were in their swimwear. I felt uncomfortable just by looking at her. We NS slaves know all about getting heatstroke.

was she carrying a birkin bag?

 

[KuanTi01]

Organized religion is essentially culture, and Islam is 7th century Arabic culture. Back in the day and in that area (desert), dressing up a certain way might be beneficial.

I have mentioned this before, but once I saw a full burqa woman at the Sentosa beach. It was in the afternoon and the sun was very hot. Her husband and kids were in their swimwear. I felt uncomfortable just by looking at her. We NS slaves know all about getting heatstroke.

You don't need to worry as I am sure they are heat resistant. Covering their aurat from head to toe is of greater concern than getting heatstroke.

 

[JohnTan]

Dr Mahathir said the Quran is supreme and that hadiths, which are sayings attributed to Prophet Muhammad, come after the holy book.

The hard truth is that the hadith is the final revelation of islam, not the quran. Moslems learn most of their islamic religion's rituals, prayers and religious laws from the hadith, not the quran.

Friday sermons sanctioned by the government have repeatedly warned the predominant Muslim community against philosophies like liberalism and pluralism.

moslem mosques are not places of worship. mosques are places of government propaganda. islam has never been about a relationship between God and man. It's about political control.

Even in places where moslems are a minority, mosques and madrassashs are funded by foreign governments from the Gulf or turkey. It is almost never funded nor staffed by the local community. In Singapore, PAP knows the true nature of islam and takes control over their muis and mosques, so that foreign preachers can't stir shit here the way they do in mosques all over the region and the world.

 

[knnccb]

The hard truth is that the hadith is the final revelation of islam, not the quran. Moslems learn most of their islamic religion's rituals, prayers and religious laws from the hadith, not the quran.



moslem mosques are not places of worship. mosques are places of government propaganda. islam has never been about a relationship between God and man. It's about political control.

Even in places where moslems are a minority, mosques and madrassashs are funded by foreign governments from the Gulf or turkey. It is almost never funded nor staffed by the local community. In Singapore, PAP knows the true nature of islam and takes control over their muis and mosques, so that foreign preachers can't stir shit here the way they do in mosques all over the region and the world.

u sound like a learned imam, do u wear a songkok?

 

[syed putra]

She forgot it was her father that imposed and gave more power to religious courts.
Previously, religious courts were for famiky matters only such as marriage, inheritance and deaths. Dr m and abwar, in order to garner votes from rural states gave religious authorities the power to persecute those who condemn religion, caught drinking or bonking outside of marriage, missed prayers etc and in certain states, arrested for under dressing such as no head scarves such as in kelantan, terengganu and kedah.
She should reprimand her father. No use writing a column in newspapers. Or start a movement.

 

[Devil Within]

Datin Paduka Marina Mahathir has criticised the “Arabisation” of Islam in Malaysia amid the institutionalisation and growing conservatism of the faith here.

The social activist pointed out that that it is very difficult to find traditional “baju Melayu” for women during Hari Raya as Arab attire like kaftans, which are long tunics, became more popular instead over the years.




“This is just Arabisation. Our culture — it’s colonialism, Arab colonialism,” Marina told Malay Mail Online in a recent interview here.

“Kaftans are easy to wear. But what happened to our tradition, culture, everything? It’s lost,” she lamented, pointing out that Malay women below 50 generally do not know how to tie the ‘baju kurung’ skirt so that it falls into pleats and makes it easier to walk in.


The eldest child of former prime minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad said Islam’s biggest problem in Malaysia is the fear of knowledge of the religion itself.


“Islam has a very strong intellectual history, but there’s no intellect at all in the way Islam is taught here. We’re taught rituals; we’re not taught about the great thinkers and differences between them,” she said.

“When you read the history of Islam when it first came down, it was about doing away with tribalism... but you now have this thing where you’re wanting to go to a tribe, or else, the other tribes, even though all are officially Muslim, are not allowed,” she added.

The Sunni denomination is the prevalent ideology in Malaysia and any other Islamic schools of thought, including Shia, are considered deviant.

Marina also criticised the authorities for “inventing new enemies all the time”, questioning a minister for telling Muslims to watch out for “Quranism” shortly after Dr Mahathir said the Quran is supreme and that hadiths, which are sayings attributed to Prophet Muhammad, come after the holy book.

“It’s a new ‘ism’. Liberalism, pluralism, communism, feminism, Quranism. But racism, fascism, they don’t include,” she said.

Friday sermons sanctioned by the government have repeatedly warned the predominant Muslim community against philosophies like liberalism and pluralism.

Marina hit out at the government’s repeated calls for Muslims to unite and conform, pointing out that it does not allow room for individuality, while Muslim women are criticised when they go against the norm, citing the K-pop concert controversy where Muslim girls in headscarves hugged the Korean artistes, the female BFM journalist who questioned hudud and women in tudung touching canines at a controversial pet-a-dog event.

“Women always get attacked,” said the women’s rights activist.

“The guys get away because you can’t actually tell, unless they’re in a kopiah and beard and they’re touching a dog,” she added.

She is doing an uphill battle if she want to educate Muslims into a more intellectual and inclusive person who would do away with the infidel ideology and Arabisation culture. Islam will turn even a doctor into a retarded terrorist.

 

[JohnTan]

u sound like a learned imam, do u wear a songkok?

I'm a grassroots leader. I know the hard truths about the communities and residents that I serve.

 

[JohnTan]

She is doing an uphill battle if she want to educate Muslims into a more intellectual and inclusive person

Any moslem who believes in inclusiveness and doing away with persecuting of non-moslems is an apostate, an infidel.

Any moslem who is an intellectual will know that instantly that muhammad is not a prophet and that his promises of virgins in paradise are bullshit.

 

[countryman]

You don't need to worry as I am sure they are heat resistant. Covering their aurat from head to toe is of greater concern than getting heatstroke.

More likely she's not wearing anything inside...

 

[A Singaporean]

m&d are going backward to the stone age. They are totally fucked up.

 

[mudhatter]

post source, date and time next time, otherwise copyright strike

oh wait, since when do chinks care abt copyrights trademarks or IP rights?



Saturday, 23 May 2015 08:15 PM MYT

Datin Paduka Marina Mahathir has criticised the “Arabisation” of Islam in Malaysia amid the institutionalisation and growing conservatism of the faith here.

Islam is intrinsically linked to Arabization.

The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was Arab, so were his 4 closest companions. So were the first few Khilafah/Caliphates. The language of the Quran is Arabic and indeed the greatest piece of literature on Earth in the history of the planet is the Quran.

Only somebody who understands Arabic, even if only a little bit, can tell.

A lot of incidents described in the Quran also pertain to the Arab regions.

I mean it's not exactly news. The three holiest cities of Islam are also Arabic. Makkah Madinah and Al Quds in Palestine.


Conventional wisdom has held that only Al Quds/Jerusalem has been under criminal Z|ionist cockroach infestation since the last few decades.

The Iranian regime has contended that all of the three holiest cities of Islam have been under occupation.

Al Quds under Zionist cockroach infestation.

Makkah and Madinah under Al-Saud-regime occupation. Al Saud regime being an originally Jewish origin tribe (maybe from Arabia? from Najd in particular?) that was placed in power by the Brits to serve Brit agenda and the agenda has since continued under the Yanks.

With the petrodollar and such.

Now wait for Al Saud regime to recognize Zionists openly and reveal their Jewish origin, thus confirming Iranian regime allegations.

 

[zeddy]

Brilliant statement by Marina. I would call her one of the few progressive Malays that have long realised that Islam in South East Asia have been hijacked by these Wahabi fucktard idiots from Saudi Arabia. But she is the rare few that are brave enough and willing to speak up against these venomous Arabisation poison that is seeping the Malay culture. That's why now we have so many Minahs donning the hijabs, the males donning Arab styled gowns. But sadly good Malays like Marina would be branded as liberals or even worse an apostate by her country's mad crazy Mullahs from PAS.

 

[syed putra]

Brilliant statement by Marina. I would call her one of the few progressive Malays that have long realised that Islam in South East Asia have been hijacked by these Wahabi fucktard idiots from Saudi Arabia. But she is the rare few that are brave enough and willing to speak up against these venomous Arabisation poison that is seeping the Malay culture. That's why now we have so many Minahs donning the hijabs, the males donning Arab styled gowns. But sadly good Malays like Marina would be branded as liberals or even worse an apostate by her country's mad crazy Mullahs from PAS.

The money from saudi continues funding wahabbism through madrasahs, religious schools, scholarships to middle east and upon their return, are funded to build more schools. Its a huge big spiral and its getting bigger 7ntil the vollapse of oil price recently.
Saudis now cannot even protect itself from Yemeni hill billies and will need israel protection.

 

[mudhatter]

Brilliant statement by Marina. I would call her one of the few progressive Malays that have long realised that Islam in South East Asia have been hijacked by these Wahabi fucktard idiots from Saudi Arabia. But she is the rare few that are brave enough and willing to speak up against these venomous Arabisation poison that is seeping the Malay culture. That's why now we have so many Minahs donning the hijabs, the males donning Arab styled gowns. But sadly good Malays like Marina would be branded as liberals or even worse an apostate by her country's mad crazy Mullahs from PAS.

You are the crazy kafir fucktard from stinkypura.

It's no business of non Muslims what Muslim Melayu choose to do in their own country. Eff off.

The poisonous kuffar culture brought about by Westernization and blindly adopted by inferior kafir Chinks and others need to be reversed.

 

[eatshitndie]

traditional malay women attire in malaysia (british malaya) before independence.

 

[mudhatter]

traditional malay women attire in malaysia (british malaya) before independence.
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Brits have no right to be in Malaya. They are no longer in Malaya.

Brits - everywhere- left a ticking time bomb.

In Palestine, they left the cockroach Jews.

In Malaya, they left the chink virus.

In Cyprus, they left the Greeks.

In Pakistan, they left the CECA virus in Kashmir.

In Sri Lanky, they left Tamil terrorists.

etc etc etc.

One of the conditions for Malaya to be granted independence was that imported kafir chink and ah neh migrants had to be granted citizenship. That is the root of the problem.

Had the Malayan natives taken action soon after, let's say while Tunku Abdur Rahman were still in power, things would have been far more harmonious in Malaya. And the country and region would have been far more advanced and prosperous.

Without any chink ah neh or other kafir pendatang to hold them back , the Malayan tiger could have roared to take back its rightful place. No kafir pendatang = no religious racial problems in Malaya = greater progress, while chinks would still continue to live in misery under commie dictatorships like in PRC Norkies viet congs or even in malaya under stinky PAP-pigs.

 

[Devil Within]

traditional malay women attire in malaysia (british malaya) before independence.
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Indonesia still retains much of their traditional costumes. That's why they see no up Malays in Malaysia in this aspect. However, even in Indonesia they are not spared the affect of Arabisation.