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Many Albertans are frustrated and angry with the unvaccinated, but what to do with those feelings?

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/analysis-albertans-unvaccinated-frustration-covid-1.6215314

Many Albertans are frustrated and angry with the unvaccinated, but what to do with those feelings?​

Poll finds two-thirds of Albertans angry or frustrated with the unvaccinated​


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Brooks DeCillia · for CBC News · Posted: Oct 20, 2021 3:00 AM MT | Last Updated: 39 minutes ago

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According to a CBC News poll, nine per cent of Albertans say they have no intention to get vaccinated against COVID-19. (Reuters)
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Dr. Daisy Fung finds it hard to measure time these days. She just keeps working until she's done.
Amidst the fourth wave of the novel coronavirus pandemic, the Edmonton family doctor works "killer hours," treating patients, even visiting some of her palliative, geriatric and house-bound patients in their homes.
"Everything during COVID just seems to take a lot longer," adds Fung, an assistant clinical professor in the department of family medicine at the University of Alberta.
She recently spent two hours talking with a patient hesitant to get a COVID-19 inoculation.
"Drawing empathy has been harder and harder in general during this pandemic for patients," concedes Dr. Fung.
While she inevitably finds understanding for her patients, she struggles to identify with some people.
"It's especially frustrating when in my personal life, I see people who are suffering from COVID or have lost both parents to COVID … [and] they're not vaccinated and they're spreading misinformation."
And Dr. Fung is not alone.
Like the static crackle of electronic noise, an acrimonious current animates social media discussions about Alberta's seemingly interminable COVID-19 situation.
As the provincial government and medical professionals continue to implore Albertans to get vaccinated, the white noise of angry posts, tweets and memes about what for some can feel like a never-ending pandemic pile on top of each other in the forums.
This can lead to anger with each other, and with the provincial government.
According to a new poll conducted for CBC News, anger and frustration top the list of feelings Albertans have when asked about unvaccinated people.

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Dr. Daisy Fung is an assistant clinical professor in the department of family medicine at the University of Alberta. (Daisy Fung/Facebook)

Feelings about the unvaccinated and COVID-19​

Almost a quarter (23 per cent) of people in Alberta say they are angry with the unvaccinated.
Forty-three per cent feel frustrated.
The random survey of Albertans also found that 22 per cent of people in the province express understanding, while only one in 10 people say they are indifferent about people who are not yet vaccinated.
One per cent of Albertans say they are not sure regarding how they feel about those who haven't gotten their COVID-19 jabs yet.


"People gravitated towards the very strong words," said Calgary-based pollster Janet Brown, who conducted the survey research for CBC News.
According to the survey, anger and frustration is more pronounced amongst women, urban dwellers, the retired and more educated Albertans. Plus, people who say they are very or somewhat stressed by COVID-19 are also likely to express frustration and anger about the unvaccinated. And stress levels have grown over the course of the pandemic.


"Over the last few months, there's been so much commentary about how divided we are as a population, how polarized we are as a population," adds Brown, stressing that two-thirds of Albertans appear united by their exasperation with the unvaccinated.
But division that creates bonds can lead to a kind of consensus.
"As a pollster, I regularly get results that are 55 to 45 per cent or 52 to 48 per cent.… I wouldn't describe the population as polarized at all. I think there's a strong consensus in the province."
But where does that get us?

What are we going to do with it?​

According to provincial data, slightly more than three-quarters of Albertans 12+ are already fully vaccinated.
According to the CBC News poll, nine per cent of Albertans say they have no intention to get vaccinated. It also found that two per cent of Albertans are not sure about their vaccine intentions, and another two per cent say they can't be vaccinated for medical reasons.
Despite the mounting death toll, the burden on ICUs, and the number of cancelled surgeries, about 13 per cent of Albertans likely won't get vaccinated.
Myles Leslie, with the University of Calgary's School of Public Policy, sympathizes with the anger and frustration many Albertans have for the unvaccinated.

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Medical sociologist Myles Leslie with the University of Calgary’s School of Public Policy says he sympathizes with the anger and frustration many Albertans have for the unvaccinated. (Julien Lecacheur/CBC)
"I totally get where it comes from," says the associate professor, who studies vaccine hesitancy.
"But what are we going to do with it?" he wonders.
Empathy and compassion is a good starting point in any quest to convince people to get vaccinated.
Whether you are pro- or anti-vaccine, Leslie encourages Albertans to move beyond labelling each other as "malthinking morons from somewhere over there."
"You want to channel that energy, that anger, that frustration into a productive conversation, rather than a Twitter-style shouting match," says Leslie.

Recent research into persuading reluctant people to get the COVID-19 jab concluded that confrontation with facts and/or scare tactics provoke more resistance.
Leslie's own work highlights the importance of discovering "a vaccine-hesitant person's positive motivation," because getting vaccine hesitant people to say yes to an inoculation requires lengthy empathetic conversations to find out why the person is hesitant.
"You have to be empathetic, actually get into their worldview," said Leslie.
These world views are hard wired, stresses Leslie.

The individualized roots of vaccine hesitancy​

The individual — and individual rights — have gained prominence in recent decades.
With the rise of the atomized person came personal responsibility. People became liable for their own safety and security.
"We were all little individual risk managers," said Leslie, meaning we all have to plan appropriately, for instance, for our health and retirement.
In this way, the individualism of some can arrive at odds with others. In particular, those Albertans who have adopted a more collectivist worldview during this pandemic.
The province has been asking Albertans to get vaccinated for months, including running some vaccine lotteries, and eventually even offering cash for a jab. But the social politics of the very idea of the vaccine has divided Albertans.
"That seems to be the fissure that seems to be opening up in Alberta politics," said pollster Janet Brown, "whether people take a collective communal approach to public policy, or whether they take an individualistic approach."
But whatever their approach, many Albertans are united in their disapproval of the UCP's management of COVID-19.

Public attitudes about government handling of pandemic​

At the onset of the pandemic, Albertans' trust in experts rose.
A whopping 70 per cent of Albertans strongly or somewhat approved of the provincial government's management of the pandemic in May of 2020.
Fast forward a year and a half and the governing UCP — mired in controversy and internal infighting — gets high marks from only 20 per cent of Albertans.
Nearly eight in 10 (78 per cent) of Albertans somewhat or strongly disapprove of the UCP's handing of COVID-19, according to the latest CBC News poll.
Albertans gave higher markers to both their municipal and federal levels of government for managing the pandemic.
Premier Jason Kenney promised Albertans the "best summer ever." Experts questioned what they called the government's risky reopening plan based on wishful optimism. And a fourth wave followed in the fall.


Brown thinks the UCP's erratic response to the pandemic has undermined public confidence in its management of the crisis.
"I think it's a factor of the government changing its mind too many times in the course of the pandemic, and … I think it's also the government being quiet at the very times when people want to hear from it the most," said Brown.
The public's dissatisfaction could prove fatal for a government hoping to get re-elected in the spring of 2023.
"With so many people being dissatisfied with the government's handling of the single most important issue in the province," said Brown, "this is a very big hole for this government to dig itself out of."
But the polling data on anger and frustration toward the unvaccinated could provide the UCP with some leverage. Brown thinks the UCP could interpret it as a licence to impose tougher public health measures.
"I think the public is giving the government a mandate to make some of the tough choices that need to be made around mandatory vaccinations, mandatory restrictions and do whatever they can do to get a quick end to this pandemic."
Meanwhile, medical professionals and the provincial government will continue the slow, painstaking work of trying to convince the unvaccinated to get a COVID-19 inoculation.

Motivating the vaccine hesitant one patient at a time​

For the foreseeable future, Dr. Daisy Fung will likely continue to work long hours.
Empathy goes a long way, says Dr. Fung, recalling her recent two-hour conversation with with a patient who was nearly incapacitated by the fear of getting the vaccine.
Scare tactics and facts don't win the argument, but listening to the patient can work.
"When you truly listen to that and hear that and feel that palpable fear, you can draw empathy from that," said Fung.
 

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@dredd see above.

Perhaps a parallel is differences in parenting approaches between Singaporeans and Canadians.
 

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I have no issues with the unvaccinated. If I was running a business I would cater exclusively for the unvaxxed.
 

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I have no issues with the unvaccinated. If I was running a business I would cater exclusively for the unvaxxed.

That's what some businesses did. If you go to their Facebook and Instagram, people were calling them heroes. Without Papers Pizza is one in Calgary. The other big one is the Whistle Stop Cafe in Mirror. Whistle Stop Cafe is actually like a small cafe in a gas station in a very rural area of Alberta. The owner very smart. make himself some matyr lightning rod for freedom of speech and rights and anti vaxxers. Asked for help to raise funds. He raised enough he bought the land where the gas station is on. LOL!

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/calgary-...o-comply-with-covid-19-restrictions-1.5615066

Calgary restaurant loses business and liquor licences for failing to comply with COVID-19 restrictions​

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Published Oct. 7, 2021 11:07 a.m. MDT
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The City of Calgary says a local restaurant that had its food handling permit suspended for failing to comply with COVID-19 restrictions has also lost its business license and liquor licence.
Just days ago, Without Papers Pizza in Inglewood posted a sign promoting the fact that customers wouldn't have to present proof of vaccination.
Calgary's vaccine passport bylaw requires that businesses, including restaurants, require proof of vaccination, a recent negative COVID-19 test or valid medical exemption letter to gain entry.

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By Monday, Alberta Health Services had suspended Without Papers Pizza's food handling permit.
On Thursday, the city said it had revoked the eatery's business licence and issued 27 tickets for refusing to check proof of vaccination, failure to display signage and operating while its business licence was suspended.
In addition, the city said Alberta Gaming Liquor & Cannabis had revoked the restaurant's liquor licence.
"The operators of this business have publicly shared their intent not to follow City bylaws or comply with public health orders," the city said in a news release. "This cannot stand.
"Please be assured that, when significant risk is identified, or we see continued non-compliance, we will resort to enforcement action.
"The bylaw is very clear on the actions we can take, and we are prepared to vigorously enforce with businesses who are willingly and knowingly violating our bylaws.
"We will not hesitate to address businesses who put their customers and staff at risk by not following City bylaws, business licence requirements, public health orders and AHS guidelines.”
The city said most businesses are embracing the new COVID-19 measures.
"They understand that consumer confidence is bolstered when there is a consistent approach to health measures and reducing risk.
"We thank all businesses who are working with us to keep their customers safe."
Without Papers Pizza hadn't responded to CTV's request for comment at the time of publishing.


https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/whistle...-battle-denied-permission-to-appeal-1.5497177

Whistle Stop Café owner loses another legal battle, denied permission to appeal​

Alberta Health Services shut down the Whistle Stop Cafe near Mirror on May 5, 2021.
Alberta Health Services shut down the Whistle Stop Cafe near Mirror on May 5, 2021.
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Updated July 5, 2021 1:35 p.m. MDT
Published July 5, 2021 1:24 p.m. MDT
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Christopher Scott, the owner of the Whistle Stop Café, has lost another legal battle after being denied permission to appeal a scheduling order that he claimed could have led to him avoiding a contempt of court conviction in June.
Alberta Court of Appeal Justice Jolaine Antonio rejected Scott's argument that the injunction against him should be thrown out because his legal counsel was not present while the judge was hearing the injunction application.
"Mr. Scott's effort to cloak the scheduling question in principles of justice depends on an assumption that [his] argument is correct. As that argument has not yet been heard in the court below, I cannot make that assumption," reads Antonio's ruling.

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Scott was found guilty of contempt of court last month.
Antonio also noted the Public Health Act allows interim orders to be made without the other party's lawyer being present.
She also shot down Scott's argument that had he successfully argued for the injunction to be thrown out, his contempt of court proceedings would have unfolded differently.
"I am not willing to find prejudice by contrasting reality with hypothesis."
Antonio noted a parallel application for a stay proceeding against Scott was abandoned.
Scott was arrested on May 8 during a rally near his café in Mirror, Alta., about 150 kilometres south of Edmonton.
The rally was deemed to be in violation of a May 6 injunction order applied for and obtained by Alberta Health Services under the Public Health Act against Scott and the café ahead of the rally two days later.
Scott's appeal argument centred on a May 13 scheduling order where his lawyer argued that because he wasn't in court when the injunction application was being heard, the order against Scott should be thrown out.
That argument was one of several advanced by Scott's lawyer but Antonio noted the judge "would not hear the application 'piece by piece.'"
When given the choice to proceed with the entire application or delay until a later date, Scott's lawyer chose to adjourn proceedings without setting a date to resume.
"Even an appellate court cannot reverse the flow of time; as such, appeals from scheduling and case-flow orders can be pointless or detrimental," reads Antonio's ruling, noting "orders of this kind are reviewed deferentially and are rarely varied on appeal."
Scott is scheduled to be sentenced later this month for his contempt of court conviction.
 

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I am just waiting to be unmasked. So many time forgot to Bring my mask until i reached the destination.
 

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Pfizer asks Health Canada to approve COVID-19 vaccine for kids 5 to 11 years old

This is the first COVID-19 vaccine submission Canada has received for younger children​

The Canadian Press · Posted: Oct 18, 2021 5:14 PM ET | Last Updated: October 19

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If approved, the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine, called Comirnaty, would be given to kids age five to 11 in doses about one-third the size given to adults and teens age 12 and up. (Paul Zinken/dpa/The Associated



Pfizer has asked Health Canada to approve the first COVID-19 vaccine for children aged five to 11 years old.

As soon as the regulator gives the green light, providers will be able to start offering the COVID-19 shot to kids, though new child-sized doses might need to be procured.

The doses are about one-third the size given to adults and teens age 12 and up.

Pfizer has delivered more than 46 million doses to Canada to date, and an analysis of the available data on administration from provincial and federal governments suggests there are more than enough Pfizer doses already in Canada to vaccinate kids between the ages of five and 11.

But simply pulling smaller doses from vials Canada already had stockpiled across the country may not be advised, chief public health officer Dr. Theresa Tam said at a media briefing late last week.

"We also understand from Pfizer that this actual formulation has shifted," Tam said Friday. "This is a next generation formulation, so that is something that needs to be examined by the regulator."


Canada signed a new contract with Pfizer for pediatric doses last spring.

The vaccine was developed in partnership with Germany's BioNTech and is now marketed under the brand name Comirnaty. It was authorized for people at least 16 years old last December, and for kids between 12 and 15 in May.

Pfizer already submitted clinical trial data for its child-sized dose to Health Canada at the beginning of the month, and made a formal request for approval to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration last week.

The company said the results were comparable to those recorded in the Pfizer-BioNTech study in people aged 16 to 25.

'Thorough scientific review' required before authorization​

In a statement, Health Canada said it will prioritize the review of the submission, while maintaining high scientific standards for safety, efficacy and quality.

"Health Canada will only authorize the use of Comirnaty if the independent and thorough scientific review of all the data included in the submission showed that the benefits of the vaccine outweighed the potential risks in this age group," the statement said.



WATCH | Dr. Theresa Tam talks about children getting vaccinated against COVID:


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Tam is asked to advise parents considering COVID-19 vaccines for children​

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The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine has also been tested on children as young as six months old. Topline data for children under five years old is expected as soon as the end of the year.

Health Canada said it expects to receive more data for review from Pfizer for younger age groups, as well as other manufacturers for various age ranges in the coming months.

Once the vaccine is approved for kids, the National Advisory Committee on Immunization (NACI) will weigh in on whether the benefits of the shot outweigh potential risks for young children. The Public Health Agency of Canada has noted rare incidents of myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle, after receiving an mRNA vaccine such as Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna.

As of Oct. 1, Health Canada has documented 859 cases associated with the vaccines, which mainly seem to affect people under 40 years old. That's out of millions of doses given.

The risk of myocarditis appears to be low, according to Tim Sly, a Ryerson University epidemiologist with expertise in risk management.

"Of course, no one considers any complication in a child to be acceptable, and a tremendous amount of caution is being taken to look for and identify all problems," said Sly in a recent email exchange with The Canadian Press.

A COVID-19 infection produces a very high risk of cardiovascular problems, he noted.

Aside from protecting kids against more serious symptoms of COVID-19, the vaccine would also reduce the risk of a child passing the virus on to a vulnerable family member and make for a better school environment with less stress about transmission.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/pfizer-seeks-kids-covid-vaccine-approval-health-canada-1.6215547
 
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