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manipulators of shares market

leetahbar

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"This world is subject to change and destruction from
moment to moment; it is like a river, a seed, a lamp,
wind, a cloud; like a monkey who is always restless,
like a fly who is ever in search of unclean things and
defiled places, like a fire which is never satisfied.
Again, thought is like a water-wheel or a machine:
it goes on rolling the wheel of transmigration, carrying
varieties of bodies and forms... causing the wooden
figures to move as a magician moves them."
... The Buddha (The Lankavatara Sutra)



Likewise, it is naive to believe that the stock markets
move purely according to natural economic forces of
supply and demand.


Please be warned, stock markets like defiled places,
are always manipulated by 'magicians.'


The most powerful manipulators are those with the
most money (the hot money from financial giants with
their resources and privileged information) that work
in concert to create bubbles and burst bubbles.



Here's a fact: The speculators and hedge fund managers

who run today's stock market need market volatility in
order to make money.


They can't make enough money if the market stays flat
or moves only within a narrow band, so they like extreme,
sudden and surprise price movements.


Their intention is to deplete the life long savings
of many a honest wage earner.



The law says, whatever goes up must come down

And whatever hits the bottom must rebound
To which the syndicates had perfected
Correct timing often means reading the syndicates'
moves to buy or sell


Heads they win, tails you lose.


Be prepared to ride the roller coaster and stomach it :)
From: born loser
 
this come to mind a very subjective question:

is our gov one of the "magician manipulators" or one themselves being manipulated? ultimately when filtered down, citizens are the one being craftily manipulated and mercilessly exploited.

do be very careful.
 
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IMHO, its all the papers or big boys, they will squeeze u untill u tio stop order. algorithmic trading is one of their machine. Cash market and futures mkt are their playground.
 
the markets now is very abnormally strange. in a stock markets, one side is a winner; the other loser and one in the middle is a break-even.

many countries now look like losers. then where are the winners? singapore?
 
could the winners be the terrorists? cos terrorism is now at large and terrorism needs big money to cause destruction.

so beside being careful where we park our funds, maybe we should further be alerted and aware of the terrorists.
 
during the tragic 911 where twin towers in USA were destroyed, rumours had it that many terrorists (or linked conspirators) had prospered from shorting the market prior to the incident. as could be seen, when the market plunged, the terrorists made tonnes of $ after shorting it. one winner vs one loser and lots of innocent average investors as the unwitting casualties.
 
They bought alot of PUT option. Just pay the premium and get unlimited returns, be it european or american option market.
Majorities of the guys are losing money when trading, so whose the WINNER?
 
in your frank view, do u think sg gov is winner, loser or plain dummy?
 
They bought alot of PUT option. Just pay the premium and get unlimited returns, be it european or american option market.
Majorities of the guys are losing money when trading, so whose the WINNER?

Most say is 90-10.

BBs are like the elephants in the room, pay attention to them and you should be fine.
 
winner is the security firm. they take a little cut for every customer's successful trade. fyi, there is no real winner in a trading market,prices go up and down driven by demand and supply,some make and some lost. that's the thumb of rule.

They bought alot of PUT option. Just pay the premium and get unlimited returns, be it european or american option market.
Majorities of the guys are losing money when trading, so whose the WINNER?
 
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stock counters can be manipulated but i dun think there is ever such great group that can manipulate a country's exchange index. but say if china and USA really start a trade war, it will be a different story, very interesting and possibly can only witness this once in a lifetime.shiok ah! battle of brains and financial armour.:D


this come to mind a very subjective question:

is our gov one of the "magician manipulators" or one themselves being manipulated? ultimately when filtered down, citizens are the one being craftily manipulated and mercilessly exploited.

do be very careful.
 
Interesting, but theoretical. Not much practical value. Most punters exited the Market already, many with heavy losses. With exit, they are not subject to further losses.
 
winner is the security firm. they take a little cut for every customer's successful trade. fyi, there is no real winner in a trading market,prices go up and down driven by demand and supply,some make and some lost. that's the thumb of rule.

u think the mkt now is supply n demand which will produce the true mkt value of a underlying? U are wrong ben, nowadays mkt are totally inverse relationship.
 
during the tragic 911 where twin towers in USA were destroyed, rumours had it that many terrorists (or linked conspirators) had prospered from shorting the market prior to the incident. as could be seen, when the market plunged, the terrorists made tonnes of $ after shorting it. one winner vs one loser and lots of innocent average investors as the unwitting casualties.



actually those massive shorts were from a couple guys..........................traced to Israel......................


after the news of their massive shorts came out in the papers........................they never collected their winnings.............
 
short is ok, is those fucker that are doing naked short that is creating fake shares to devalue the market that is killing everyone. In fact if u look at how Bear stearn falls, it makes you wonder why those people that are creating millions of fake shares aren't charged in court. Note over millions of failed delivery of shares that few weeks
 
World finance controlled by a minority race .. and this kind of greed might lead to another WW ...
 
years back, PAN EL crisis was manipulated by a tan koon swan. CLOB SHARES were abruptly halted by madhatter. ultimately, we saw winners at the expense of many losers, casualties and even suicidal deaths. then there was george soros who gave madhatter a taste of his own medicine. the black monday of wall street where share market was suspended from trading for 3 days.

but now, it's happening again. losers have been made known but who are the winners??
 
leetahbar said:
years back, PAN EL crisis was manipulated by a tan koon swan. CLOB SHARES were abruptly halted by madhatter. ultimately, we saw winners at the expense of many losers, casualties and even suicidal deaths. then there was george soros who gave madhatter a taste of his own medicine. the black monday of wall street where share market was suspended from trading for 3 days.

but now, it's happening again. losers have been made known but who are the winners??

I believe in such volatile markets, hedge funds would benefit a lot, both in the up and down market because of their flexibility of actions not available to other classes of investors.
 
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