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Malaysian sex bloggers Alvin Tan and Vivian Lee charged with sedition

Jah_rastafar_I

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It seems to me a prank done in poor taste - and that's all!!

Why the fuss over Chinese buggers eating pork? And wishing their muslim buddies on their religious occassion? How are the local muslims insulted in this? They're not forcing the meat down their throats! Others cannot use the word Allah to describe God? Says who? Aw, c'mon man, lighten up and open up. Can someone explain to me how this can be interpreted as seditious?

Cheers!

yup just reverse it around and suddenly it isn't offensive.
 

csi88

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This two is big enough to know what is right and what is wrong to do.They themselves is courting for troubles.They consider lucky so far nothing had happen to them and is under police protection since no bail is allow.
 

winnipegjets

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This two is big enough to know what is right and what is wrong to do.They themselves is courting for troubles.They consider lucky so far nothing had happen to them and is under police protection since no bail is allow.

They could have been eating chick-kut-teh. Then there is NO problem at all.
 

rambo22

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It seems to me a prank done in poor taste - and that's all!!

Why the fuss over Chinese buggers eating pork? And wishing their muslim buddies on their religious occassion? How are the local muslims insulted in this? They're not forcing the meat down their throats! Others cannot use the word Allah to describe God? Says who? Aw, c'mon man, lighten up and open up. Can someone explain to me how this can be interpreted as seditious?

Cheers!
Pls dun fark ard in a muslim country.

Who care wether u r a christian or buddhist, u try to kiss in

Public and see what happen
 

THE_CHANSTER

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Muslims are extremely sensitive about Islam. This fact should be just so obvious to the world.

1) Salman Rushdie's fatwa
2) Danish Cartoons
3) Draw Muhammad Day
4) Innocence of Muslims
5) Charlie Hebdo cartoons

The list is endless...

Alvin was asking for trouble and boy, has he got it.
Jail time until 23 August.

Plenty of time for some really sex staved Malay boys in Prison to give him an anal gang bang.
 
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ray_of_hope

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To those who don't know, "The Malaysian constitution guarantees freedom of religion while making Islam the state religion." In other words, Islam is first among equals in terms of religions in Malaysia. As a Christian (as I am a Christian), if I visit Malaysia I am conscious of this fact and act accordingly. If people do not do so then they should not visit or live there. Simple as that.

In the same way, if someone cannot stop making jokes about the monarchy then it is best not to visit Thailand, otherwise you will risk being charged under the lese majeste law.

What we want as individuals, or if we have a "relaxed" or "liberal" view of things, is completely immaterial, completely irrelevant. What is material and relevant are the customs, social mores and laws in a country. Relative to that, people's individual views add up to squat.
 

snowbird

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If not for all those stupid antics, Alvin would still be enjoying himself in Singapore, fully paid for by the country and maybe one day even become a district judge, a public prosecutor or a lecturer like his another now already famous countryman.
Only he is going to jail very much earlier and just screwed his own future thoroughly
 

laksaboy

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If not for all those stupid antics, Alvin would still be enjoying himself in Singapore, fully paid for by the country and maybe one day even become a district judge, a public prosecutor or a lecturer like his another now already famous countryman.
Only he is going to jail very much earlier and just screwed his own future thoroughly

Well, after that he did try to switch career and become a 'celebrity blogger'...too bad it didn't work out.
 

singveld

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i guess they did not learn the lesson in singapore, now they really get it. They waste their potential. Now, they are going to go to prison and come out and work in macdonald.
 

singveld

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Muslims are extremely sensitive about Islam. This fact should be just so obvious to the world.

1) Salman Rushdie's fatwa
2) Danish Cartoons
3) Draw Muhammad Day
4) Innocence of Muslims
5) Charlie Hebdo cartoons

The list is endless...

Alvin was asking for trouble and boy, has he got it.
Jail time until 23 August.

Plenty of time for some really sex staved Malay boys in Prison to give him an anal gang bang.

terrorist laws from a terrorist state. I said it a thousand time in this forum.
 

winners

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This Alvin and his Sinkie girl are not as intelligent as that Namwee. Namwee also ridiculed his government's policies, but at least he knows his limits.
 

tonychat

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It seems to me a prank done in poor taste - and that's all!!

Why the fuss over Chinese buggers eating pork? And wishing their muslim buddies on their religious occassion? How are the local muslims insulted in this? They're not forcing the meat down their throats! Others cannot use the word Allah to describe God? Says who? Aw, c'mon man, lighten up and open up. Can someone explain to me how this can be interpreted as seditious?

Cheers!

If both of them are vegetarians, they will not land themselves into trouble...

I dunno why but when you eat meat, you will have tons of problems coming to you in different ways.
 

I_Hate_Pappies

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If both of them are vegetarians, they will not land themselves into trouble...

I dunno why but when you eat meat, you will have tons of problems coming to you in different ways.

This would not have happened, if only they have chat with you in the chatroom. Master would have enlightened them. :o
 

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Malaysian sex bloggers charged with sedition

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AFP
Thursday, Jul 18, 2013
KUALA LUMPUR - A Malaysian couple known for a sexually explicit blog were charged Thursday with sedition after they caused outrage by posting a Ramadan greeting on Facebook which showed them eating pork.

Alvin Tan, 25, and Vivian Lee, 24, pleaded not guilty to publishing or distributing a "seditious publication" and two other charges in a Kuala Lumpur district court in Muslim-majority Malaysia, a court official said.

They were denied bail and so will be jailed pending trial, she said. The next court date has been set for August 23.

Sedition is punishable by up to three years in jail.

The duo had posted a greeting for the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan on social networking site Facebook last week, showing a poster of them eating pork, which is forbidden in Islam.

They later apologised in a video on YouTube for the posting, which sparked widespread anger. Their Facebook page is no longer accessible.

The other charges were causing disharmony on the grounds of religion and possessing or producing obscene material, which is punishable by up to five years in jail, the official said.

Prime Minister Najib Razak criticised the couple on Wednesday while discussing implementing a new law to replace the colonial-era sedition act, which has been slammed by critics as a tool to crack down on dissent.

"The insolent and impudent act by the young couple who insulted Islam showed that freedom of expression and irresponsible opinion can jeopardise the community," he was quoted by The Star as saying.

Last year Lee, a kindergarten teacher, and Tan, who is currently unemployed and a former law student at the National University of Singapore, sparked outrage in Malaysia and Singapore by posting erotic photographs and videos of their lovemaking as well as close-ups of their genitals on a blog.

The duo, who said they aimed to destigmatise sex, shut down the blog because of family pressure in the conservative countries, where pornography is illegal.

 
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