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low cost Chinese missile shot down US$20 million Global Hawk Drone near NK border

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This year in June a US top secret Global Hawk @US$20 million when to spy NK & entered Chinese air space. The Chinese low cost missiles took care of it.:D Global Hawk is a top spy plane program costing at least 5 billion US$.

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US unmanned global hawk shot down in Chanbai mountain

according to washington post, 12/10, one of US unmanned plane Globalhawk doing reconnaisance work in northern korea, and got shot down in Chanbai mountain near China jilin province. US intelligence suspected it was the missile HQ-10A. and it believed North Korea doesn't have such capability. HQ-10A is specifically disigned to attack unmanned plane like Global Hawk.
US defense department already protested to CHina and demanded the wreckage be returned.



美国《华盛顿邮报》近日报道,美军一架“全球鹰”12月10日从本土美军起飞到东亚地区执行任务,在朝鲜北 部被不明导弹袭击,坠毁在中国吉林省境内。文章称,根据美军情报机构的内部消息,该导弹很可能是中国的防空 导弹HQ-10A,因为朝鲜现在没有能力打下美国的高空侦察机,而且HQ-10A是中国HQ-10 的升级,专门为了对付美国的“全球鹰”等先进侦察机而设计的。

文章说,被击落的“全球鹰”是美国关岛空军基地的编号为YH100的改进型侦察机,坠落地点在吉林省长白山 地区,其残骸已经被中国的军方运走。美国太平洋副司令皮里拉13日称,美国国防部已经向中国提出抗议,要求 中国对此负责,并归还击落的“全球鹰”残骸。



美国“全球鹰”无人机

斯罗普·格鲁曼公司的RQ-4A“全球鹰”是美国空军乃至全世界最先进的无人机。样机于1998年2月首飞,2000年6月一个完整的 “全球鹰”系统部署到了爱德华兹空军基地。“全球鹰”机身长13.5米,高4.62米,翼展35.4米,最 大起飞重量11622千克。翼展和波音747相近,因此“全球鹰”是一种巨大的无人机。“全球鹰”机载燃料 超过7吨,最大航程可达25945千米,自主飞行时间长达41小时,可以完成跨洲际飞行。可在距发射区55 56千米的范围内活动,可在目标区上空18288米处停留24小时。飞行控制系统采用GPS全球定位系统和 惯性导航系统,可自动完成从起飞到着陆的整个飞行过程。



Different report said the shot down plane went into the sea, but it may be a different incident.

中国红旗导弹渤海击落美机



  6月15日,美国一架“全球鹰”(亦叫“捕食者”)高空无人侦察机本土起飞到东亚地区执行任务,在朝鲜南部海域被不明导弹袭击,坠毁在中国渤海湾地区,根据美军情报机构的内部消息,该导弹很可能是中国的防空导弹HQ-10A(红旗系列导弹)。

  美国的俄罗斯人的很模糊,美国的这架“全球鹰”(亦叫“捕食者”)高空无人侦察机在“朝鲜南部海域”被导弹击中,却坠毁在“中国渤海湾地区”,美国的飞机看来确实挺厉害,被击中后仍可以呈弧线坠落,从朝鲜海域摔到了渤海湾里,或者它热爱中国吧,死也要死在中国领海?!这太搞笑了吧。

  明明美国的飞机在朝鲜半岛如此敏感时期来执行针对中国的刺探情报的任务,这有它最后掉进渤海为证,那99%是这架翼展和波音747相近、机身长13.5米、高4.62米、最大起飞重量11622千克的美军侦察机在执行任务的过程中侵略了中国领海上空时才被导弹捕捉到的,根本不用猜也该是中国导弹出手的。

  该出手时就要出手。

  只是中国方面目前还没有确证这条消息。
 
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U.S. military a “Global Hawk” by the Chinese missile shot down in the Bohai Bay
Date:2011-09-04Author:adminCategory:Military hotComment:0

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United States, “Washington Post” recently reported that the U.S. military a “Global Hawk” on June 15 took off from the local U.S. military mission to East Asia, South Korean waters in the missile attack was unknown, crashed in China, the Bohai Bay region. The article said that according to U.S. intelligence agencies inside information, the missile is likely to be China’s air defense missiles, HQ-10A, because North Korea is now the United States can not afford to lay a high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft, and HQ-10A is the Chinese HQ-10 upgrade, a special To deal with the United States, “Global Hawk” and other advanced surveillance aircraft designed.


article said, was shot down, “Global Hawk” is the U.S. territory of Guam Air Force Base number YH100 of improved surveillance, crash site in the Chinese Bohai Sea Bay area, the debris has been removed by the Chinese military. Deputy Commander of U.S. Pacific Pili La 16, said the U.S. Defense Department has protested to China, asked China to be held responsible, and the return shot down, “Global Hawk” remains.


Si Luopu Grumman’s RQ-4A “Global Hawk” is the U.S. Air Force and the world’s most advanced unmanned aerial vehicles. Prototype first flew in February 1998, June 2000, a complete “Global Hawk” deployment to Edwards Air Force Base. “Global Hawk” fuselage length 13.5 meters high 4.62 meters, wingspan of 35.4 m, maximum takeoff weight of 11,622 kg. Wingspan and 747 are similar, so the “Global Hawk” unmanned aerial vehicles is a huge. “Global Hawk” on-board fuel over seven tons and a maximum range of up to 25,945 km, autonomous flight time of up to 41 hours to complete the transcontinental flight. From the emitter in the range of 5556 kilometers activities in the target area over 18,288 m at the residence 24 hours. Flight control system using GPS global positioning system and inertial navigation systems, can be done automatically from takeoff to landing of the flight.

remote high-altitude Global Hawk unmanned aerial vehicle (haeuav) program is designed to meet the air defense Reconnaissance Office (daro) joint force headquarters to provide remote reconnaissance capability needs and design of. Global Hawk has a field day and night from enemy territory, to provide data and 24×7 response capability, as long as the military needs it can start. rq-4a “Global Hawk” is the U.S. Air Force and the world’s most advanced unmanned aerial vehicles. As “High persistence Advanced Concept Technology Demonstration” (actd) part of the plan, the plan was initiated in 1995.

actd originally planned by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency Management, October 1998, transferred to Wright Patterson Air Force Base ? Air Force System Program Office to take over. Later, “Dark Star” program in January 1999 canceled.

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U.S. military a “Global Hawk” by the Chinese missile shot down in the Bohai Bay
Date:2011-08-29Author:adminCategory:Military hotComment:0

United States, “Washington Post” recently reported that the U.S. military a “Global Hawk” on June 15 took off from the local U.S. military mission to East Asia, South Korean waters in the missile attack was unknown, crashed in China, the Bohai Bay region. The article said that according to U.S. intelligence agencies inside information, the missile is likely to be China’s air defense missiles, HQ-10A, because North Korea is now the United States can not afford to lay a high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft, and HQ-10A is the Chinese HQ-10 upgrade, a special To deal with the United States, “Global Hawk” and other advanced surveillance aircraft designed.

article said, was shot down, “Global Hawk” is the U.S. territory of Guam Air Force Base number YH100 of improved surveillance, crash site in China, the Bohai Bay region, its China’s military wreckage has been removed. Deputy Commander of U.S. Pacific Pili La 16, said the U.S. Defense Department has protested to China, asked China to be held responsible, and the return shot down, “Global Hawk” remains.

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Si Luopu Grumman’s RQ-4A” Global Hawk “is the U.S. Air Force and the world’s most advanced unmanned aerial vehicles. Prototype first flew in February 1998, June 2000, a complete “Global Hawk” deployment to Edwards Air Force Base. “Global Hawk” fuselage length 13.5 meters high 4.62 meters, wingspan of 35.4 m, maximum takeoff weight of 11,622 kg. Wingspan and 747 are similar, so the “Global Hawk” unmanned aerial vehicles is a huge. “Global Hawk” on-board fuel over seven tons and a maximum range of up to 25,945 km, autonomous flight time of up to 41 hours to complete the transcontinental flight. From the emitter in the range of 5556 kilometers activities in the target area over 18,288 m at the residence 24 hours. Flight control system using GPS global positioning system and inertial navigation systems, can be done automatically from takeoff to landing of the flight.

remote high-altitude Global Hawk unmanned aerial vehicle (haeuav) program is designed to meet the air defense Reconnaissance Office (daro) joint force headquarters to provide remote reconnaissance capability needs and design of. Global Hawk has a field day and night from enemy territory, to provide data and 24×7 response capability, as long as the military needs it can start. rq-4a “Global Hawk” is the U.S. Air Force and the world’s most advanced unmanned aerial vehicles. As “High persistence Advanced Concept Technology Demonstration” (actd) part of the plan, the plan was initiated in 1995.

actd originally planned by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency Management, October 1998, transferred to Wright Patterson Air Force Base Air Force ? System Program Office to take over. Later, “Dark Star” program in January 1999 canceled.

“Global Hawk” part of the development plan

“Global Hawk” development program divided into three parts: the design, development and testing, deployment and evaluation. Es related companies, including electrical systems company, it information technology company, Integrated Systems is the company, ships systems and constitute the company.

2005 August ? Northrop Grumman receives Air Force contract to provide two early autumn this year, production rq-4a. The $ 21 million contract awarded June 2. These aircraft will join the global war on terror now support the Advanced Concept Technology Demonstration theater-type “Global Hawk” unmanned aerial vehicle ranks. Has so far deployed the “Global Hawk” in the 200 missions flown more than 4,300 combat hours.

“Global Hawk” achievements

“Global Hawk” in February 1998 the first flying in the implementation of the plan period, completed actd 58 takeoffs and landings, a total of 719.4 hours flight. In March 1999, second prototype crashed, carrying a special “Global Hawk” design of the surveillance sensor system damage; December 1999, III machine roll on the runway when the accident, the destruction of another sensor system. So after the flight, there is no installation of electronic/infrared sensor system. However, a separate test synthetic aperture radar surveillance, and reconnaissance images obtained. March 2000 to continue flight in June a complete “Global Hawk” system re-deployed to Edwards Air Force Base.

2001 年 4 22, “Global Hawk” to Australia from the United States completed a transoceanic flight initiative. Is both manned aircraft, and only one of the few to cross the Pacific, such as a large airliner. This is the first UAV to accomplish this feat. Flight distance also makes the “Global Hawk” can stay in the air over a target up to 42 hours for continuous monitoring. “Global Hawk” support cabin and ground stations can use a c-5 or two c-17 transport, “Global Hawk” in itself does not need air, because the transition range of 25,002 km life time 38 hours, can fly to any desired destination.

Global Hawk in April 2001 for the flight test, reached the 19,850 meters of altitude, and without breaking the Jet Propulsion the task of human endurance flight record of 31.5 hours. The record was maintained UAV compasscope-r 26-year-old world record.

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US$21 million in a pile of smoke.
 
The fact that it's an unmanned aircraft means it's highly possible to be shot down. Its a huge risk to send a manned aircraft. China with their slave labour makes cheap toys. So what... i would like to see china send their unmanned planes to the US. If they got the balls to do it.
 
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The fact that it's an unmanned aircraft means it's highly possible to be shot down. Its a huge risk to send a manned aircraft. China with their slave labour makes cheap toys. So what... i would like to see china send their unmanned planes to the US. If they got the balls to do it.

China has lotsa cheap people. It is estimated there are over two hundred thousand (figure from my Fujian supervisor once) illegal immigrants from Fukien province alone in the US. The state government has lost track of their locations and some could have joined the enemy's side.

Cheers!
 
China has lotsa cheap people. It is estimated there are over two hundred thousand (figure from my Fujian supervisor once) illegal immigrants from Fukien province alone in the US. The state government has lost track of their locations and some could have joined the enemy's side.

Cheers!

I also from Fujian illegal immigrant but now runroad to Thailand.
 
I also from Fujian illegal immigrant but now runroad to Thailand.

My ancestors runroad (or ranroad?) from Swatow to Kukup/Pontian. There, they were overwhelmed by the Hokkkian Lang, cannot be haolian, so diverted to Peesai. Did you runroad to Siam from Peesai or Fujian?

Cheers!
 

No big deal what. I would like to see China send one over to US airspace. US military don't have to shoot it down as the Chink version would break down halfway throughout it's journey. :D North Korea is a pariah state. If the policeman of the world doesn't check on them then i worry.
 
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The USA can always build and send in another one as long as the Chinese are idiotic enough to continue lending the Americans money.

The total cost for the Chinese to shoot down the drone? $20 million plus the cost of the cheap Chinese missile. :):)
 
china can reverse engineered to build a better one.
 
The fact that it's an unmanned aircraft means it's highly possible to be shot down. Its a huge risk to send a manned aircraft. China with their slave labour makes cheap toys. So what... i would like to see china send their unmanned planes to the US. If they got the balls to do it.

US is deadmeat as far as fighting against any country stronger than Middle East boys are concerned. Especially on attacking the world most vulnerable continental US is concerned. 911 is the prove beyond doubt. Simple measurement is any country can sustain damages and hurts many times better than USA. You can do 911 on China twice a month for entire year and it will not be reacting half as hurt as USA.;)
 
My ancestors runroad (or ranroad?) from Swatow to Kukup/Pontian. There, they were overwhelmed by the Hokkkian Lang, cannot be haolian, so diverted to Peesai. Did you runroad to Siam from Peesai or Fujian?

Cheers!

Peesai la . . . knn cannot stay in peesai anymore la everything seebeh expensive


No big deal what. I would like to see China send one over to US airspace. US military don't have to shoot it down as the Chink version would break down halfway throughout it's journey. :D North Korea is a pariah state. If the policeman of the world doesn't check on them then i worry.

Ya la all the copy parts made in Shenzhen
 
The straight 35m wings will make it ultra easy to detect and engage by any cheap air defense systems. :D Plus their airspeed are slow like hell. Almost impossible to miss shooting them. Only thing is they can fly high as 18km. So you would need a high altitude missile to reach them. A missile like that is about 1 to 2 tons. Usually solid fueled single or 2 staged. Not very expensive to make. Ground radar send corrections to guide it to impact from radar sites afar.;)
 
http://news.qq.com/a/20100201/001417.htm

中国空地导弹首次在无人机上发射成功并中靶
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世界领先!中国“暗箭”无人机设计定型(组图)

资料图:中国自主设计研发的“暗剑”无人机
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以色列军演:F-16轻松击落中国无人机(组图)

我国CH-3无人机。CH-3是我国第一个具备导弹攻击地面目标能力的无人机
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以色列军演:F-16轻松击落中国无人机(组图)
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翼龙无人机。我国另一种无人机。可以长时间巡航,进行侦查-打击一体化作战。

以色列军演:F-16轻松击落中国无人机(组图)

我国天翼长航时无人侦察机
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近日,西安现代控制技术研究所负责研制的某型无人侦察攻击机导弹及某部件通过空装科订部、中航工业重大项目管理部组织的设计方案评审,并与中航611所正式签订《某无人机新成品技术协议》,标志着该所在空军国内科研和国外出口领域均获得了重大突破。

在深入学习实践科学发展观活动中,该所在抓好两个相关预研课题的同时,自筹资金开展了两个航空和一个空军项目的论证。根据察打一体无人机武器系统在反恐维稳、定点清除、维护边防稳定等方面的重要作用,该所在项目研制上加大了投入力度,自筹经费配合合作方进行了试验考核,获得了圆满成功。

目前,该所在侦打无人机领域已经取得国内空地导弹首次在无人机上发射成功并中靶,国内某型无人侦察攻击机即将正式工程立项,外贸察打一体无人机配装的某型导弹签订了出口合同三个方面的突破,为该所今后拓展研发领域奠定了良好的基础。

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Peesai la . . . knn cannot stay in peesai anymore la everything seebeh expensive

Very true.

And what's even more disturbing is when the gahmen implements new policies, folks aren't given a chance to make the required adjusts; ya wake up in the morning and its there on the front page - with immediate effect.

Cheers!
 
It can't be that difficult to shoot down one of these unmannded drones. The U-2 spy plane flies pretty high up and was still shot down by Soviet SAM, and that was during the sixties. Missiles are much better now I'm sure.

Cheers!

The straight 35m wings will make it ultra easy to detect and engage by any cheap air defense systems. :D Plus their airspeed are slow like hell. Almost impossible to miss shooting them. Only thing is they can fly high as 18km. So you would need a high altitude missile to reach them. A missile like that is about 1 to 2 tons. Usually solid fueled single or 2 staged. Not very expensive to make. Ground radar send corrections to guide it to impact from radar sites afar.;)
 
It can't be that difficult to shoot down one of these unmannded drones. The U-2 spy plane flies pretty high up and was still shot down by Soviet SAM, and that was during the sixties. Missiles are much better now I'm sure.

Cheers!

Right! The US adopted Wrong Strategy and got Ripped Off as usual by defense lucrative contractors (remember the US$500 hammers and US$5000 ladders) that they Over-Priced the UAVs, which are supposed to be Expendables in concept that aren't designed to prevent destruction by enemies. It is consumable item that is supposed to be Low Cost. And I build plenty to exploit you harass you and you can try to shoot all of them but I am not hurt by your shooting. US$21 million per piece is not this case any more, tax payer can not agree and congress can not borrow any more Ah Loong to feed these greedy defense contractors.
 
Example of low cost missiles to shot down high priced US drones, SA-2 this is poor countries' surface to air missile it shot down U-2 in the 1950-1960

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-75_Dvina

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Major variants

Upgrades to anti-aircraft missile systems typically combine improved missiles, radars, and operator consoles. Usually missile upgrades drive changes to other components to take advantage of the missile's improved performance. Therefore, when the Soviets introduced a new S-75, it was paired with an improved radar to match the missile's greater range and altitude.

SA-2A; SA-75 Dvina (Двина - Dvina River) with Fan Song-A guidance radar and V-750 or V-750V missiles. Initial deployment began in 1957. The combined missile and booster was 10.6 m (35 ft) long, with a booster having a diameter of 0.65 m (26 in), and the missile a diameter of 0.5 m (20 in). Launch weight is 2,287 kg (5,040 lb). The missile has a maximum effective range of 30 km (19 mi), a minimum range of 8 km (8,000 m), and an intercept altitude envelope of between 450 and 25,000 m (1,480 and 82,000 ft).
SA-N-2A; S-75M-2 Volkhov-M (Russian Волхов - Volkhov River): Naval version of the A model fitted to the Sverdlov Class cruiser Dzerzhinski. Generally considered unsuccessful and not fitted to any other ships.
SA-2B; S-75 Desna (Russian Десна - Desna River). This version featured upgraded Fan Song-B radars with V-750VK and V-750VN missiles. This second deployment version entered service in 1959. The missiles were slightly longer than the A versions, at 10.8 m (35 ft), due to a more powerful booster. The SA-2B could engage targets at altitudes between 500 and 30,000 m (1,600 and 98,000 ft) and ranges up to 34 km (21 mi).

V-750 missile in transit

SA-2C; S-75M Volkhov. Once again, the new model featured an upgraded radar, the Fan Song-C, mated to an improved V-750M missile. The improved -2B was deployed in 1961. The V-750M was externally identical to the V-750VK/V-750VN, but it had improved performance for range up to 43 km (27 mi) and reduced lower altitude limits of 400 m (1,300 ft).
SA-2D; Fan Song-E radar and V-750SM missiles. The V-750SM differed significantly from the A/B/C versions in having new antennas and a longer barometric nose probe. Several other differences were associated with the sustainer motor casing. The missile is 10.8 m (35 ft) long and has the same body diameters and warhead as the SA-2C, but the weight is increased to 2,450 kg (5,400 lb). The effective maximum range is 43 km (27 mi), the minimum range is 6 km (3.7 mi), and the intercept altitude envelope is between 250 and 25,000 m (820 and 82,000 ft). Improved aircraft counter measures led to the development of the Fan Song-E with its better antennas which could cut through heavy jamming.
SA-2E: Fan Song-E radar and V-750AK missiles. Similar rocket to the D model, but with a bulbous warhead section lacking the older missile's forward fins. The SA-2E is 11.2 m (37 ft) long, has a body diameter of 0.5 m (20 in), and weighs 2,450 kg (5,400 lb) at launch. The missile can be fitted with either a command-detonated 15 kt nuclear warhead or a 295 kg (650 lb) conventional HE warhead.
SA-2F: Fan Song-F radar and V-750SM missiles. After watching jamming in Vietnam and the Six-Day War render the SA-2 completely ineffective, the existing systems were quickly upgraded with a new radar system designed to help ignore wide-band scintillation jamming. The command system also included a home-on-jam mode to attack aircraft carrying strobe jammers, as well as a completely optical system (of limited use) when these failed. Fs were developed starting in 1968 and deployed in the USSR later that year, while shipments to Vietnam started in late 1970.
SA-2 FC: Latest Chinese version. It can track six targets simultaneously and is able to control 3 missiles simultaneously.
S-75M Volga (Russian С-75М Волга - Volga River). Version from 1995.

As previously mentioned, most nations with S-75s have matched parts from different versions or third-party missile systems, or they have added locally produced components. This has created a wide variety of S-75 systems which meet local needs.
An HQ-2 on display at Minsk World in Shenzhen, China

HQ-1 (Hong Qi, Red Flag): Chinese version of SA-2 with additional ECCM electronics to counter the System-12 ECM aboard U-2s flown by the Republic of China Air Force Black Cat Squadron.
HQ-2: Upgraded HQ-1 with additional ECCM capability to counter the System-13 ECM aboard U-2s flown by Republic of China Air Force Black Cat Squadron. Upgraded HQ-2s remain in service today, and the latest version utilizes passive phased array radar designated SJ-202, which is able to simultaneously track and engage multiple targets at 115 km (71 mi) and 80 km (50 mi), respectively. The adoption of multifunction SJ-202 radar has eliminated the need to have multiple, single-function radars, and thus greatly improved the overall effectiveness of the HQ-2 air defense system. A target drone version is designated BA-6.

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Current operators of the S-75, including Russia
A pair of S-75 launchers
Romanian S-75M3 "Volhov" launching a 5Ia23 missile at Capu Midia firing range.

Current

Albania - 4
Azerbaijan - 250
Bulgaria - 18
People's Republic of China
Cuba
Egypt - 240, Tayer el-Sabah variant
Indonesia
Iran - 300+ Launchers, HQ-2J and indigenous Sayyad-1/1A & 2.[9]
Kyrgyzstan - few
Libya[10]
Libya Free Libyan Air Force
Mongolia
Myanmar - 48 next 250 in 2008
North Korea - up to 270
Pakistan
Romania
Syria - 275
Tajikistan - few
Vietnam - 280
Yemen
Zimbabwe

Former operators

Afghanistan
Algeria
Czechoslovakia - 23
East Germany
Georgia[7]
Hungary
India
Iraq
Poland
Russia
Soviet Union - passed on to successor states
Yugoslavia - passed on to successor states, but retired shortly afterwards
Somalia - not operational

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The villagers are silly to just watch it burn. They must on the ball fight to put out fire and then PRC govt will pay them big money for preserving the drone.

Burnt away wasted.
 
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