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[h=2]System makes it easy to hire foreigners at expense of locals[/h]Posted by theonlinecitizen on November 4, 2011 176 Comments
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The following is a letter to Minister of State for Manpower Tan Chuan Jin
From: xxxx
Date: Wed, Nov 2, 2011
Subject: A step in the right direction: discriminatory practices against Singaporeans
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Dear Mr. Minister:
I just read the article entitled ‘Don’t hire, promote own kind at expense of S’poreans‘. I cannot begin to say just how thrilled I am to see that the government is FINALLY stepping up to the plate in trying to curb this problem. I have been ranting and raving about this issue ever since I joined the workforce in 2004. I have worked at Hewlett Packard and Frost & Sullivan in Singapore, and both these companies are unabashedly guilty of such hiring practices.


I was a Director at Frost & Sullivan (Singapore) Pte Ltd. and I am well aware of our internal slant towards hiring MBAs from India. There was one time when we made 12 offers in one fell swoop to SP Jain (Singapore campus) and IIM MBA graduates. NOT A SINGLE Singaporean was offered a position. It wasn’t for lack of qualified Singaporean candidates either. Even our campus recruitment was geared towards hiring from Indian universities, instead of NUS, SMU and NTU. Cost was not the factor. We offered many of these graduates between SGD6,000 to SGD10,000 a month.
I can’t help but recall a situation of such irony that to this day, it pains me to have had experienced it at all. At Frost & Sullivan, one of our largest client sectors was the Government sector in Singapore. We brought in well over USD2 million a year in consulting engagements from the Government sector alone – both stat boards and ministries. When we staffed our projects, we would be lucky if we had even 20% of Singaporeans being utilized in the project team.
The entire management team at Frost & Sullivan are foreigners (with the exception of one). We have also helped many of our foreign hires to become Singaporean citizens during the period of their employment. While I am not against using foreign talent, the unfortunate reality is that many of these decently paying positions could have very easily been filled by Singaporeans.
Having done Manpower planning studies for two stat boards in Singapore, the facts and figures are quite startling, to say the least.
During my tenure at Hewlett Packard, I was on several government IT projects. Over 90% of my 100+ person team were foreigners. Like many other companies, how HP cleverly circumvented being “obvious” was to use “contractors”. Our contract was with the employment agencies who, in turn hire almost only foreigners. Hence, the headcount was never really seen. Of the 100+ person who was staffed on this one particular government IT engagement, less than 10% were full-time employees hired directly by HP.
In addition to my own personal experience, I know with absolute certainty that many of my close non-Singaporean friends who head up IT divisions within the banking sector have similar preferences of hiring foreigners over Singaporeans. While I cannot condone such practices, the system makes it far too easy for this to happen. They claim that it is better to hire foreigners because these foreign workers are more than likely to stay as almost all of them want to ultimately obtain Singapore citizenship.
Rather than formulating workable incentives to keep Singaporeans at their jobs, management takes the easy way out. Is this how a country takes care of its own?
As citizens, we give our country two and a half years of our life by going through national service. In that time, our foreign compatriots gain experience in the work force and we, as loyal citizens are penalized. Where is the logic behind this? I strongly believe that our government has a primary and inalienable duty and dedication to its citizens.
The vicious cycle is well engrained in every level of employment. Senior Management positions are given to foreign nationals. They then are inclined to hire their own kind, cutting people like myself completely out in the cold with no options but to seek higher-salaried employment elsewhere.
I am now a foreigner working in China because of the simple fact that many of the high-paying jobs in Singapore have been taken by my foreign friends. I would return to Singapore in a heartbeat if I could make the same sort of salary as I do here.
I have never felt more slighted being a Singaporean than I have during my career in Singapore.
Warmest Regards,
xxxxx
 
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[TD="class: msgtxt"]here's the reason why Frost and Sullivan loves to recruit only Indian FTs:
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Well Singaporeans are daft, Enough said...Many are too slow to realize the impact while some need a hard slap to wake them up. 5yrs time Singapore will no longer be Singapore..It will be a country with no identity and the people will have no other Identity to anchor themselves too.
 
Just to add abit of hard truth.. This guys are doing what Locals have been doing to Locals for decades.. Job discrimination based on Race.
 
[h=1]Bosses slammed for sending foreign workers to casinos[/h][h=2]Ministries take serious view of practice; casinos to step up checks[/h]
Published on Nov 5, 2011




By Elizabeth Soh
THE authorities are looking at ways to stop employers from sending their foreign workers to casinos to gamble on their behalf.
Responding to a report in The Straits Times yesterday, Minister of State for Manpower Tan Chuan-Jin said it was appalling and unacceptable for bosses to use their workers as proxy gamblers.
In a joint statement last night, the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) and the Ministry of Community Development, Youth, and Sports (MCYS) said the authorities met both casino operators yesterday, and they had agreed to step up checks at their premises. MOM is also checking if the contractors involved may have committed any offences.
The two ministries said they took a serious view of employers who use their workers as proxy gamblers.
Yesterday's report was about some contractors and businessmen who have been sending their foreign workers to gamble on their behalf at the Resorts World Sentosa casino.
Some of the bosses had exclusion orders blocking them from entering the casinos.
Those interviewed said the workers received a share of any winnings, but if they lost too much money, their pay would be docked.
Reacting to the news, Mr Tan criticised the employers involved in a posting on his Facebook page.
Most netizens who responded to him agreed that something needed to be done.
They suggested restricting or banning foreign workers from the two casinos and imposing heavy fines on employers who turn their workers into proxy gamblers.
Some Members of Parliament also wanted the employers penalised.
'I think it is gravely wrong to make use of the vulnerable foreign workers, who are in a very difficult position,' said Mr Christopher de Souza, deputy chairman of the Government Parliamentary Committee (GPC) for Manpower.
'We should explore whether the employer has participated in a conspiracy to breach an exclusion order by getting other people to do the gambling in the casino.'
Mr Zainudin Nordin, the GPC chairman, said the practice should not be allowed to continue.
Gambling support groups were also unhappy with the employers.
'What they are doing is very dangerous, making use of their workers and making them think that they are actually helping them,' said Reverend Tan Lye Keng, executive director of the One Hope Centre, which holds gambling support sessions for addicts.
The employers, who had spoken freely to The Straits Times before the report, said yesterday that they were worried about what might happen to them now.
Lawyers said the issue of whether the workers were illegally deployed appears to be a grey area, especially if they were on medical leave at the time.
They thought this could be hard to prosecute because there are no laws banning foreign workers from the casinos.
Criminal lawyer Sashi Nathan said:'There is nothing to stop them from entering the casino of their own free will.'
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[h=1]Man marries prostitute unknowingly[/h]
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inSing.com - 17 hrs 47 mins ago
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<CITE>Man marries prostitute unknowingly</CITE>
A 45-year-old security guard, Mr Lin, thought he had married the woman of his dreams, only to find out later that she was a prostitute.
The couple got to know each other through a marriage and dating agency. After meeting his wife, a divorcee from China for three times, they decided to register their marriage. However, before they had a chance to consummate their marriage, Mr Lin was shocked to be informed that his wife was arrested for prostituting in Geylang.
"I was looking for companionship and she looked very demure. We had a lot to talk about and got along well", said Mr Lin.
Although they only met thrice consecutively over 3 days, he was swept off his feet by her sweet talk and they decided to get married. Mr Lin said that although they registered their marriage on 5 July 2010, they did not live together. After his bride got approval to extend her stay in Singapore, she became cold towards Mr Lin and they only met four times thereafter.
It was only in 7 January this year that he received a call from the police where he learnt that his wife was arrested for illegal prostitution and deported back to China.
"Police said that she was caught in Geylang, and a "client" testified that she was prostituting. I never expected that I would marry a prostitute." said Mr Lin.
 
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[TD="class: msgtxt"]Lower future growth a reality we must accept


Letter from Tan Si An
04:47 AM Nov 04, 2011


I agree with Mr Ng Ya Ken, in his online letter "A soft population policy threatens our long-term survival" (Oct 31), that a soft policy is a threat. However, I differ on what constitutes a soft policy.

That would be an indiscriminate, open-door immigration flow based simply on reasons of economic growth and a high support ratio.

Nobel economics laureate Paul Samuelson thought that "a growing nation is the greatest Ponzi game ever contrived" (which was why he thought the United States' social security scheme will keep going).

But no society can prosper by simply having a broad population pyramid base indefinitely. It will collapse inevitably, the extent of damage usually a function of the rate of expansion and over how long a period.

The Institute of Policy Studies concluded that in any of its four population scenarios, the percentage of working population will decline and the only way to ameliorate this is more migrants.

However, the migrants themselves will leave the working population eventually and add to the other side of the support ratio, that is, more elders to support in future.

We need solutions to increase the birth rate and workers' productivity, so Mr Ng should accept this demographic reality instead of suggesting the soft option of inflating Gross Domestic Product and lowering the median population age via open-door immigration.

As he rightly put it, population policy is no exception to side effects, and the side effect of his suggestion, even if it may lighten our burden now, will be to snowball the problem of an ageing population for future generations to tackle.

Our nation's long-term survival depends on our ability to grow without having to add more and more immigrants each year and on our resilience in accepting lower growth, which is the reality in all developed economies.

And lower growth numbers are nothing compared to the woes of a population that reaches breaking point.[/TD]
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